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blackamikaze
post Sep 26 2006, 02:10 PM

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VPN,ssh tunnel,http-tunnel, hopster will work just fine... but all this need money coz we using their bandwith n people cant give that for free.
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post Sep 29 2006, 07:12 AM

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i dont know why we want to make a local tracker?... there are a bunch of public tracker out there.. local tracker does'n help the speed. Peers n seeders that will determine the speed.
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post Sep 30 2006, 06:54 PM

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for now i already try 3 type of solution to bypass this shaping.. but all of them cost u money..

first i try VPN for 29 Dollar for 3 month.. This one very good... u can get ur torrent to normal speed without problem, but sumtime server drop or hard to connect. But i dont really like this solution since all the packet will be encrypted.. not just ur torrent. So it will effect ur browsing speed.

Second i use http-tunnel, this sofware should be use to bypass company proxy or college proxy, but since the concept still the same, u can use it.. But the speed sumtime good sumtimes bad.

The last one i use ssh tunnel, for 10 dollar for a month. Unlike vpn, with ssh tunnel u can choose which sofware u want to encrypt.. so ur browsing speed will not be effected. N for the torrent speed, its kinda hard to get 100kb/s with this. But u can easyly hit 50+kbs or more... even on public torrent i can get 70+kb/s .. so i think that good enough. So for now i will stick with this ssh tunnel.

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post Sep 30 2006, 07:26 PM

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i use this one

https://www.secure-tunnel.com .. u can pay with paypal or credit card. They got tutorial on their website. But please dont expect too much since sumtimes their server will be loaded so the speed gonna decrease a little.. but at least u can download from internation peer n u can sleep without worry. biggrin.gif

but i also found another one..

http://www.pfproxy.com .. 15 dollar a month via e-gold. This still new, i dont how good
their services. Maybe sumone can try tongue.gif

for sumone who wanna find free solution, sorry.. i cant find yet.
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post Sep 30 2006, 09:35 PM

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yeah streamyx totally shaping our torrent speed right now.. i dont know why they wanna hide it. but the downside of all my solution, its not free.. even 10 dollar we can consider expensive when we convert to our money...
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post Oct 1 2006, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(kramuse @ Oct 1 2006, 12:35 AM)
blackamikaze, your VPN method is basically similar to a proxy server is it?

the one i am proposing is actually different but i am not sure if it would work or not...if it does, it would require some organizing to be done and perhaps set up a portal
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i will not say similar.. since vpn will encrypt ur whole connection. But proxy not encrypt ur connection at all.. unless u talking about ssh proxy.

QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Oct 1 2006, 08:13 AM)
hi blackamikaze,

about the secure tunnel, what's the average DL speed during day time, and night time? also, what is the difference between platinum and gold package? i think i'm going to get an account if the DL speed is good.
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actually only platinum can be use for for p2p.. average speed should be 50+kb/s day or night, i will make a few test n post the result here.. i think there is better ssh tunnel out there. I will keep searching..

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post Oct 1 2006, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Oct 1 2006, 09:16 AM)
then you pay them for that package ahh?
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yeap, i paid for them

QUOTE(ocdetective @ Oct 1 2006, 11:55 AM)
Would these solutions be suitable using BT with private trackers where the "share" ratio is important to ensure you dont get banned?
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yeap u can use it with private tracker. I also use it for private tracker...
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post Oct 1 2006, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(ocdetective @ Oct 1 2006, 07:35 PM)
OK cool with sign up tomorrow and will report back on the impact. (currently as everyone else approx. 5kB/s average on international peers)
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good for you. Just take note.. sumtime the proxy server will be drop.. maybe connection problem. So u need to connect back. Also take note that the download speed will go up n down. The upload also kinda hard to hit 40kb/s .. most of the time it hit 20kb/s

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post Oct 1 2006, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(ocdetective @ Oct 1 2006, 07:44 PM)
Blackamikaze I am only on 512k so 40K upload is beyond my realm anyway! lol. Also note my edited post above re platinum v gold. Also do I need to do any configuration change to azureus?
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yeah.. u right.. it seems i made a mistake about gold n premium package. It seems both of them can use for p2p.. damn. U only need to change the proxy setting n install ssh tunnel sofware..

https://www.secure-tunnel.com/support/softw...eus/azureus.cfm
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post Oct 2 2006, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Oct 1 2006, 11:36 PM)
i tried the platinum package. should've taken the gold but nevermind, guess i'll change my plan next month, or switch to another SSH. DL speed around 40-50 but there are local seeds under the peer list. international connection still awful. if i run my utorrent without SSH, max i can reach is 20kb/s. with free VPN i manage to hit 50 sometimes even more but it always DC me from MSN, browser and so on. also not as stable as SSH.
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thats weird... i can hit 100kb/s on private tracker that dont have local peer at all.. very good huh.. but yeah vpn quite pain in the ass..
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post Oct 2 2006, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Oct 2 2006, 12:57 AM)
please, may i know what BT client are you using and how the settings are like?
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i using utorrent.. default setting. I only change the proxy, disable PE n in advace setting i change my max_halfopen to 50. thats all.. but the speed from private tracker. Its normal when sumtime the speed goes up n down..

QUOTE(altie @ Oct 2 2006, 01:09 AM)
Where you from blackamikaze? Putrajaya? Maybe your node isn't throttled yet. In my limited experience, only nodes that show heavy torrent activity is throttled.
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yeap from putrajaya n my node already been throttled. I get 50+kb/s with ssh tunnel. Without tunnel i only get 5kb/s...

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yeah i know about findnot.. but it seems they got bad feedback. Read it here

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/file-sharin...indnotcom-94219

maybe sumone wanna try biggrin.gif
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post Oct 2 2006, 02:08 PM

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for peole that use secure tunnel, u can use utorrent. No need to stick with azureus. Since it seems a few people got problem with azureus. Dunno why...
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post Oct 2 2006, 04:06 PM

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u need to contact their customer support if u want to cancel your account.
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post Oct 2 2006, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE
Fine.. but the customer support email is not listed on the site.


use their website support form.

https://www.secure-tunnel.com/support/support_contact.cfm

or maybe call them : 612-605-0724, via VoiP of course

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Well i am using utorrent. Well it's not really been good this morning might be the SSH server overload.
Would like to know one thing, so it's a must that we disable PE or is it fine to run with it?


yeah maybe server overload. Like i said.. sumtime it happen. About PE.. i think it doesnt matter u enable it or not, but for me, since we already using tunneling so we dont need PE.. so i disable it.

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post Oct 2 2006, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Nucleon @ Oct 2 2006, 04:41 PM)
I am using gold package ST. Looks good..... thought wanna try it on the 45mb network !! yeah!!! but i thing that is impossible i guess. I wonder will i get catch by my superior or not .... hmmm.... So far my I got problem signing on Yahoo messenger and MSN... does any of u got this problem?
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no problem using YM .. just set Use Proxy n Enable Http proxy 127.0.0.1 : 8080 .. dont set socks proxy..

by the way i try do some experiment with other client n i try Bitcomet 0.59 .. yeah very old. I set proxy to Socks 4 not 5. N guess what.. it seems i can hit 100kb/s faster then use utorrent, n the speed more stable. Maybe we all can do some sort of experiment n find the best way n result... here a few way u can set the proxy.

Socks 5 - 127.0.0.1:1079
Socks 5 - 127.0.0.1:1080
Socks 4 - 127.0.0.1:1079
Socks 4 - 127.0.0.1:1080
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post Oct 2 2006, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kramuse @ Oct 2 2006, 05:02 PM)
No one answered my question. Would it be possible for more than one external IP to use a SSH tunneling account?
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im not really sure about this.. but maybe u cant.
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post Oct 2 2006, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(dragna @ Oct 2 2006, 07:46 PM)
So which port are you currently using for utorrent? 1079 or 80?

Anyways, is this the cause of ST or it's just streamyx being a nutcase, cuz this happened right after i installed ST. So i'm afraid of playing WC3 with this ping.

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im using socks 4 port 1079 but with old bitcomet n i dont think install ST will make u ping gone high...

QUOTE(ocdetective @ Oct 2 2006, 07:57 PM)
When setting up proxy options do you also need to put in your username and password? I am using a private tracker and have set it up for azureus like the site says but am getting "Error: Invalid Port" for torrent.
Also its just the webtunnel that gold member connect to I guess.
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why dont u try use utorrent..
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well.. im not using router, just bridge mode. N im only set the proxy thats all..
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QUOTE(ocdetective @ Oct 2 2006, 10:00 PM)
OK but I am still not clear as to how a private tracker can recognise your contributions if you are anonymous?
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we are anonymous but not a ghost.. we got our own ip.. accept the ip not from tmnet. Its from ssh tunnel network. So tracker still detect ur log.

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