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post Feb 27 2015, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Feb 27 2015, 09:01 PM)
Yes, give to Pinky. Looi is an RSS contributer. (In some LYN areas, apparently they battle for the privilege)

Pinky, please add some clarification between "dividends" and "distributions".

In particular, point out that funds give "distributions", not "dividends". Which makes it easier for investors to tell they are not the same thing.
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DISTRIBUTION AND DIVIDEND IS THE SAME THING AND THEY DO NOTHING TO THE GROWTH OF YOUR $$$
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post Feb 27 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 27 2015, 09:13 PM)
DISTRIBUTION AND DIVIDEND IS THE SAME THING AND THEY DO NOTHING TO THE GROWTH OF YOUR $$$
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This is NOT about what you think you already know.

This is about what Fund Houses call it - they call it distributions.

Do you have an example where Fund Houses call it "dividends"?. If so, please provide a link.
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post Feb 27 2015, 09:35 PM

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For eg, this is from FSM

GROSS INCOME DISTRIBUTION RATE
NET INCOME DISTRIBUTION RATE

Please point out where they call it dividends?
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post Feb 27 2015, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 27 2015, 09:13 PM)
DISTRIBUTION AND DIVIDEND IS THE SAME THING AND THEY DO NOTHING TO THE GROWTH OF YOUR $$$
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anyway, do continue to new version when the time comes notworthy.gif

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post Feb 27 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 27 2015, 09:13 PM)
DISTRIBUTION AND DIVIDEND IS THE SAME THING AND THEY DO NOTHING TO THE GROWTH OF YOUR $$$
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QUOTE(howszat @ Feb 27 2015, 09:25 PM)
This is NOT about what you think you already know.

This is about what Fund Houses call it - they call it distributions.

Do you have an example where Fund Houses call it "dividends"?. If so, please provide a link.
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post Feb 27 2015, 09:55 PM

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Ok.

Then why are some noobs here keep harping about dividends if they are not applicable to mutual funds? yawn.gif
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post Feb 27 2015, 09:56 PM

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post Feb 27 2015, 10:08 PM

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hmm.gif quick search tells me it's actually being called distributions...

we like use terms we already know without realising it's actually not the right term?

or the average person just equate distributions by fund houses to dividends by shares?
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India in 'sweet spot' of lower deficits, more growth - govt
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post Feb 27 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 27 2015, 09:55 PM)
Then why are some noobs here keep harping about dividends if they are not applicable to mutual funds? yawn.gif
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Dont' worry about noobs.

Dividends are not applicable to Funds. Funds give distributions, not dividends.

PS: Please edit the initial post accordingly, thanks.

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post Feb 27 2015, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 27 2015, 07:45 PM)
Tell lar where to get this ball....
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come across someone using this kind of crystall ball. that person is working for a investment company and the company does have this kind of apps to show the correlation among funds. by using this apps, it really does help to build a more diversified portfolio for customer.

I m also interested to get this apps but too bad so far I was told that the apps belong to the investment company.

anyone know where to get this crystall ball thumbup.gif
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post Feb 27 2015, 10:34 PM

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What is Correlation? - Part 1/4
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4919
Correlation Between Assets - Part 2/4
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4948
The Mathematics of Diversification - Part 3/4
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4978
How To Use Correlation To Build Portfolios - Part 4/4
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5000
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post Feb 27 2015, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 27 2015, 09:03 AM)
so happen i did "SELL" CMF on tuesday. i checked yesterday afternoon... money was already in.
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hmm.gif I see.

Seems like buying is also T+1, not T+0 (even if completed payment way before cut-off time sad.gif)
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post Feb 27 2015, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 27 2015, 11:41 AM)
rclxms.gif this is A GOOD one....
icon_question.gif  i will be glueing to the pc for the next hour to see the suggestion.... FSM 0.8%SC closing at 3pm today....Pls hurry. tell me, tell me.... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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you top up any funds for this 0.8?
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post Feb 27 2015, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 27 2015, 11:55 PM)
you top up any funds for this 0.8?
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Nope....what about you?

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post Feb 28 2015, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 27 2015, 05:01 PM)
I am happy you asked and I am happy to answer:

CIMB Asia-Pac Dynamic Income Fund aka Ponzi ver 2.0 amongst long time forummers here has the best risk-adjusted return. Hence keep it.

KGF and Small-Cap are essentially invested into the same market and they both have a correlation coefficient of 0.8 which is the numerical/mathematical way of saying you are invested in the same market. 1 is the max value. 

KGF's Corr-coeff vs Ponzi is 0.60 whereas Small cap Corr-coeff with Ponzi 2.0 is 0.54.

To be a logical investor, you need to choose the component of your portfolio to have low Corr-coeff with each other, hence choose small-cap with Ponzi 2.0.

Now you ask me, how I get to have access to all these data?

I told you, I have a crystal ball.

Xuzen
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I want TOTO number can ar?!

Tak mau investment jor...
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post Feb 28 2015, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 28 2015, 12:59 AM)
Nope....what about you?
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I top up on Ponzi 2.0
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post Feb 28 2015, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 27 2015, 09:15 PM)
@Jutamind: I tak nak reveal... ini barang kasi saya cari makan wan. I am a professional investor mah.. I have access to info that normal retail investors do not.... brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

@Celes: I want to comment a little about Link 2. I realised that those are CFA materials. Much have been said that CFA is a tough paper. After seeing those examples, I can say that in real world your calculation is going to be much more messy and not so sterile. Be happy that in CFA questions, it is so vanilla and nice. It is not so in real life.

Scientific and academics will have different outlook compared to a pure speculator. Rational investors take calculated risk, speculators take all sort of risk.

To me an aggressive rational investor is someone who still take risk by adjusting the equity to fixed income ratio. There are of course people who struck it rich by being lucky once or twice. But luck is such a unmanageable parameter, the academics are better off just ignoring it.

Xuzen
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mind elaborate.the barang cari makan.?mind to guide budding investor here..how to get that rare info?
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QUOTE(howszat @ Feb 27 2015, 08:41 PM)
Dont' worry about noobs.

Dividends are not applicable to Funds. Funds give distributions, not dividends.

PS: Please edit the initial post accordingly, thanks.
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What about RHB osk Asian income fund .

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QUOTE(adamdacutie @ Feb 28 2015, 12:59 AM)
What about RHB osk Asian income fund .
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One of my fav fund, nod.gif

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