QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 19 2015, 02:54 PM)
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still going on yklooi? but you better make it clearer la.
I dont agree i over simplify things.
A and B both invested same amount say RM10k and invested same Ut, otherwise people say you compare apple to orange.
Say A used his RM10k and got 15000 units and B entered at higher NAv got only 10,000 units.
A is doing better since he got more units from same RM10k same UT.
Someone earlier argued that, A must have invested longer - Yes , only if this Ut price is always on the up and never drops when A and B entered (different time of course, otherwise how can 1 get 15k units and another only 10k units)
I disagree becos price fluctuates up and down. we are not talking abt price drop from distrib. We are talking about buying at dips , unrelated to distribution.
So if you (B) buy at 0.54 last month and i(A) buy now at 0.50, sure for the same RM10k you get less units compared to me now. And you have invested longer than me.
Then come yklooi's theory.
He said i got more units, "no use, dont be too happy, can even be more dangerous". He is saying I can also lose more when the time comes when the market crash. Here i disagree with him, if market crash, price drops, I (A) cannot be losing more than you (B) just becos i have more units .
yklooi, your theory could be correct only if A got more units solely becos he invested in larger amount of money.
So your theory will be correct if A invested more money say RM20k and so naturally got more units compared to B who invested only RM10k and thus lesser units.
Who ever buy more (at same price), when market crash, sure will lose more then those who buy less (lesser exposure).
But we are talking about buying same amount (RM) and getting more units - A prudent buy if you wish. You are not going to lose more just becos you got more units from your prudent buy , by entering at lower NAV time.
Again i see NAV and number of units matter, nothing to do with your perennial arguments on "increased units from distribution" ok?

You know the idiotic question where they ask where’s the missing $1? The point of that question I believe is to not be directed by the flow of the riddle, rather to work the logic based on basics maths. The question was designed I believe to divert your attention from what that really matters.
If you invest in stocks yes… Holding 2000 shares of RM1 stock vs 1000 shares of RM2 stock, when both stock price increase by 1 cents, yes there is a difference. But UT NAV calculation is not like that. Stock price must at least moved by 1 cent. but in unit trust it's a different matter altogether.
Go back to basics. The NAV or Fund Price is calculated by ‘TOTAL NET ASSET VALUE of the fund’ divided by ‘TOTAL UNITS AVAILABLE’.
UT just follows the value of all the holdings under it… then use the formula and get the NAV.
So if example entire Q’s fund value is RM2000 at the beginning of the day, and RM2002 is at the end of the day. If the fund has 1000 units, the change of fund price would have been from RM2 to RM2.002 or if the fund has 2000 units, the change of fund price would have been from RM1 to Rm1.001.
The fund price movement is a result of change in the ‘TOTAL NET ASSET VALUE of the fund’. And not the other way…
If I repeat the example with 10000 units, then the change of fund price is from 0.2000 to 0.2002.
If I repeat the example with 100000 units, then the change of fund price is from 0.02000 to 0.02002.
At the end of the day, it’s still 0.1% increase.