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 AMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide

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post Aug 12 2007, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 12 2007, 08:40 PM)
if i were you, i'll go switch the PSU to a better one, say a nice, strong single +12 rail icon_idea.gif...
im looking for a good PSU to oc but my budget below rm200.. any suggestions?

currently using AVF 500w (came with casing) i dont think this good for oc..


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post Aug 12 2007, 09:29 PM

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a good PSU doesn't come cheap price, a good PSU need to be heavy biggrin.gif, well... if you can get RM400, Silverstone ST56F, Gigabyte Odin Pro 550W (this Gigabyte becoming my favourite already, why? - stable as rock man...)
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post Aug 13 2007, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 12 2007, 08:40 PM)
if i were you, i'll go switch the PSU to a better one, say a nice, strong single +12 rail icon_idea.gif...

ok, anyway... usually, when i overclock, i'll find the highest my CPU can go with stock memory clock, in order to do that, you have to use memory divider, limiting your memory clock to DDR400 (200MHz x 2) or below to ensure, the RAM clock woudn't be too high), from there, increase your CPU FSB by 5MHz or 10MHz until you can't log on to windows, until then... just keep increasing tongue.gif, say at 250MHz x 9 (your CPU's multiplier is @ 9.0x), the system locked up, don't be afraid, reboot (hard-reboot if you have to) and decrease to say... 240MHz and reboot... should be ok to log on to windows, kindly run a short test, in this "section", i prefer use SuperPI 1M calculation, quick and simple, if your system shows an error in 1M calculation meaning your system's not stable, either play with vCORE or decreasing the CPU FSB until you managed to get passed in 1M SuperPI calculation... say, you passed on 235MHz @SuperPI 1M calculation, it's time for your system running on long run test, 32M SuperPI should be ok, but i prefer Prime95, run it overnight >5Hrs considered stable enough (for me la...)

same goes to memory, finding highest memory clock... set the CPU multiplier down to 5x, with stock memory clock (not using the memory divider), slightly increase the CPU FSB until you managed to find a good stable memory clock... icon_idea.gif, testing and testing all same as CPU test (above)...
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post Aug 13 2007, 02:32 PM

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get normally a good psu like enermax,acbel ,silverstone, antec with 450w above larr smile.gif

those are good psu and u can overclock without problem
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post Aug 13 2007, 08:38 PM

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and which one is good with min price
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post Aug 13 2007, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(longhorn30 @ Aug 13 2007, 08:38 PM)
and which one is good with min price
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the EP430 you're using is good (not great) and already min price (RM100+ only) .
so far no problem for my stock voltage overclock 295 x 9 daily use as long as your casing doesn't comes with multiple drives and fancy fans and lightnings .
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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 13 2007, 09:32 PM)
the EP430 you're using is good (not great) and already min price (RM100+ only) .
so far no problem for my stock voltage overclock 295 x 9 daily use as long as your casing doesn't comes with multiple drives and fancy fans and lightnings .
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what proc and stepping you are use.. mine is 3000+ e6 icon_rolleyes.gif and can't oc over 250fsb


Added on August 15, 2007, 3:56 ambtw i want to ask some1 know this.. a amd proc with "NOT FOR SALE" print on their face

This post has been edited by longhorn30: Aug 15 2007, 03:56 AM
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post Aug 15 2007, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(longhorn30 @ Aug 14 2007, 02:37 AM)
what proc and stepping you are use.. mine is 3000+ e6 icon_rolleyes.gif and can't oc over 250fsb


Added on August 15, 2007, 3:56 ambtw i want to ask some1 know this.. a amd proc with "NOT FOR SALE" print on their face
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my 3000+ was E6 too (sold to a close friend)
ADA3000DAA4BW
NBBWE 0613BAD

try add a little 0.1V for RAM and lower your HTT multiplier to 3X (over 250FSB)
lock CPU multiplier to 9X , disable the Cool 'n Quite
use the lowest possible FSB:RAM divider (100MHz / DDR200) and push slowly

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NOT FOR SALE means not for sale whistling.gif
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post Aug 16 2007, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 15 2007, 12:20 PM)
my 3000+ was E6 too (sold to a close friend)
ADA3000DAA4BW
NBBWE 0613BAD

try add a little 0.1V for RAM and lower your HTT multiplier to 3X (over 250FSB)
lock CPU multiplier to 9X , disable the Cool 'n Quite
use the lowest possible FSB:RAM divider (100MHz / DDR200) and push slowly

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NOT FOR SALE means not for sale whistling.gif
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very meaningfull for me.. biggrin.gif thanks thumbup.gif
want to oc until my proc blackout.. tongue.gif tongue.gif hehe biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2007, 05:52 PM

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i have brisbane 3600+ and msi k9nu neov, using raptoxx 550w.. why in bios i can just set vcore until 1.3v? because of the mobo limitation??
suggestion??
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Aug 16 2007, 05:52 PM)
i have brisbane 3600+ and msi k9nu neov, using raptoxx 550w.. why in bios i can just set vcore until 1.3v?  because of the mobo limitation??
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well that's because motherboard limitation, not the PSU, if you are talking about voltage fluctuation yes... it's about the PSU not the motherboard icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 17 2007, 09:38 AM

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i orthos 2 mins got error edi.
FSB Bus = 235
LDT/FSB = X4
Multiplier = X10
Vcore = 1.375

running no divider (1:1) as my ram suppose to hold up to 250Mhz.
loosen clock to 3,5,5,10.
what settings should i use to check my OC in orthos?
noob here.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Aug 17 2007, 09:38 AM)
i orthos 2 mins got error edi.
FSB Bus = 235
LDT/FSB = X4
Multiplier = X10
Vcore = 1.375

running no divider (1:1) as my ram suppose to hold up to 250Mhz.
loosen clock to 3,5,5,10.
what settings should i use to check my OC in orthos?
noob here.
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try this...

FSB Bus = 250MHz
LDT/FSB = x1 (i used to use this multiplier tongue.gif)
Multiplier = x10
vCORE = 1.400 or 1.425 (don't leave it as "Auto")
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post Aug 17 2007, 02:17 PM

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i think it's my Vcore. prior reading this, i increased my Vcore to 1.4. running orthos for 1 hours plus no problem. haha...anyways thanks mate. go to play more with it soon...

just wondering wat other settings should we use in the Orthos? i only use smal FFTs stress CPU as instructed by Kmarc. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Aug 17 2007, 02:17 PM)
i think it's my Vcore. prior reading this, i increased my Vcore to 1.4. running orthos for 1 hours plus no problem. haha...anyways thanks mate. go to play more with it soon...

just wondering wat other settings should we use in the Orthos? i only use smal FFTs stress CPU as instructed by Kmarc. laugh.gif
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glad to hear that thumbup.gif, don't play with orthos tongue.gif, play in the BIOS, increase your FSB to 250MHz onwards brows.gif, your Toledo begging you for more brows.gif
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post Aug 17 2007, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Aug 17 2007, 02:30 PM)
glad to hear that thumbup.gif, don't play with orthos tongue.gif, play in the BIOS, increase your FSB to 250MHz onwards brows.gif, your Toledo begging you for more brows.gif
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Why not orthos? I usually use orthos to test for stability. I usually use the small FFTs to stress the CPU. However, some forumers actually recommend the following settings in orthos for stressing the CPU:

Custom setting:
Min FFT - 8k
Max FFT - 512k
Time to run each FFT size : 1 minute
Check the "Run FFTs in-place"

In addition, some would use OCCT for stress test.....
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 17 2007, 06:36 PM)
Why not orthos? I usually use orthos to test for stability. I usually use the small FFTs to stress the CPU. However, some forumers actually recommend the following settings in orthos for stressing the CPU:

Custom setting:
Min FFT - 8k
Max FFT - 512k
Time to run each FFT size : 1 minute
Check the "Run FFTs in-place"

In addition, some would use OCCT for stress test.....
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laugh.gif, actually i was meaning to play with BIOS to overclock and i didn't say not to use Orthos icon_idea.gif, for stability yes, Orthos, Prime95, SP2004, SuperPI (personally i like Prime95) icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 19 2007, 10:55 AM

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tforce 570u.. ok for oc??
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Aug 17 2007, 06:36 PM)
Why not orthos? I usually use orthos to test for stability. I usually use the small FFTs to stress the CPU. However, some forumers actually recommend the following settings in orthos for stressing the CPU:

Custom setting:
Min FFT - 8k
Max FFT - 512k
Time to run each FFT size : 1 minute
Check the "Run FFTs in-place"

In addition, some would use OCCT for stress test.....
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I read from xs, some pple there say use blend test for orthos, since for AMD the mem. controller is built in. Blend test would be a better indication of stability.
In my case, usually if the first hour doesnt have any errors, then 90% the pc is stable.
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QUOTE(slash @ Aug 19 2007, 04:12 PM)
I read from xs, some pple there say use blend test for orthos, since for AMD the mem. controller is built in. Blend test would be a better indication of stability.
In my case, usually if the first hour doesnt have any errors, then 90% the pc is stable.
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As far as I know, blend test is to test for the stability of your whole rig.

For CPU stability - use the above example or small FFTs

For RAM stability - use memtest

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