at this point, i really no idea, because, normally, when overclocking, i used to test one by one, it's CPU, Motherboard and RAM, first thing i'm going to do is, finding max CPU clock, by using lowest memory divider (DDR200), i can pump all the way to max possible without worrying bout my RAM hit the stock clock (DDR400), after that, finding max RAM clock - this use either 1:1 or CPU multiplier set to lower than stock. try squeeze the RAM from tightest timing to loosest timing - this RAM tweak actually pretty take a while , in theory, the loossest timing, provide more headroom in overclocking , after that, max CPU FSB can go, this is interesting, as all CPU and RAM goes to lowest as possible. at this point, i use DDR200 with CPU multiplier 4x, from there, increase the CPU FSB until hit to max, IIANM, i've got 440x5 ...
so that's my overclocking experience, and normally without having problem to load it to windows...perhaps your RAM already it's ceiling?

lol. now that's why your OC-ing techniques are so familiar. read it off a OC guide for K8 proc's..

the funny thing is.. this mobo that i'm using.. doesn't actually allow me to chane the RAM divider. werid huh? my friend's MSI can actually do it but mine just can't. it's Auto i guess.

but it can't be.. D-43 chips run max at 235mhz?

, yeah...this forum is good right
regarding memory divider, did you update BIOS? aiyoh, D-43 runs at 235MHz is a waste...

of course..

i did it once, but didn't dare to do it again.. exactly my point, D-43 running at 235mhx. waste aje.. my friend who sold them to me said he could reach 250mhz ealisy with his DFI board.. but mine's MSI.. so..

any solutions around this?

have you tried the RAM module into DFI's mobo? (or other mobo), if can go higher than 239MHz, then it's mobo la...also, get other RAM and fix into your MSI mobo, and if they can go like D-43 or not

the problem is, i do not have a DFI mobo. or rather, i do not know of anyone who has a DFI mobo who is actually willing to let me lend their rig for a test tun.

i'm sure that D-43's can run faster than this. no way that this is the ceiling for them. and that's the main reason why i bought these RAM's. and now, tak jalan.

you got a DFI board?

yeah, as my siggy said..., the only system i had

so where you from? can pinjam your board?

My spec is as below
AMD 64 3000+ 1.8ghz
abit kn8-ultra
HIS x1600pro
corsair 512mb

When i overclock my processor to 2.19ghz, i can't boot up my pc ady. Can anyone help me? I heard someone said b4 this processor and overclock to 2.8ghz

Actually u hv to check the ram's chip, last time i used hynix d43 can't even clock abit..bt now change to sum Corsair double sided ram, can get 250mhz no hazzle

before you do, did you read fundementals of overclocking? did you read this thread before? ...anyway, when you jack up your CPU FSB to certain speed, and reboot - hang/can't reboot, it's due to reach to its limit...it might be not your processor, but it's your RAM...try use memory divider, and find the max your CPU can go...

not all A64 3000+ can go 2.8GHz, it depends on revision/batch, skills, cooling, luck...

Sry, i din read the fundemental. But i know the basic knowledge of overclock. I have check my processor temperature, when i go to 2.19, temperature is 35

it's not about temperature, yours 35�C is consider ok already...1st thing in overclocking, try with small increment, say 5MHz~10MHz at a time, reboot...make sure successfully loaded up to windows, and run SuperPI 32M or at least SuperPI 8M for quick stability test before finalizing job. you stated that, you system won't boot after hit 2.19GHz, i'm suggesting, reset your BIOS and overclock just like you did, only this time, use memory divider...this is what i did when overclock my processor (same like yours).

first thing is, i'm finding how far my processor can go, in order to get this, use lowest memory divider (DDR200), stock CPU multiplier...and then increase small increment 5MHz~10MHz like i told you...

you were on D-43's with this system?

anyone have experience oc amd 3600+, with msi k9nu neo, corsair 1gb 667 value ram?

This post has been edited by xixo_12: Apr 1 2007, 01:05 PM

one of my friend says ALL "Venice"s boot into windows very fast .
i was like

anyone can proof this is true (if compare to other fresh format system) ?

lucky you said one of my friend; if all of my friends...i was like ...

IMO, there's nothing to do with Venice; Toledo; Manchester; Denmark or watsoever codename is, really depending on how fast your HDD, program loaded and to be loaded...etc...

got the same prob with Faint...amd athlon 3000+ venice S939...GA k8nf-9 mobo..value ram corsair 400 1gbx2...but won't get past 1.9ghz(211 fsb)..so.. my next step is changing RAM multiplier? elaborate a bit? i need to OC to match my gfx i can say
or my mobo and ram not suitable for ocing?

This post has been edited by phas3r: Mar 29 2007, 06:55 AM

read read read Fundamentals of Overclocking
your mobo use NF4-4X chip , maximum HTT value is 1600 instead of 2000 for NF4 standard and onwards .
however , it should be good in clocking ( personal opinion ) because when doing OC , normally HTT-multiplier is lowered for stability and low HTT doesn't affect system much .
1GB stick RAM normally don't go high frrequency with tight timing , loose it up .

ok ok..now i lowered ram ratio n lower htt speed from 4x to 3x..got 2.23 and still counting..thanks anyway..u mean 1600 ..ht link 800 eh?
so to get high bus speed i just need to make sure HTT and ram frequency below 800 and 200 respectively then?
so both ram ratio and ht mutiplier needs to lower until all the way down?