Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 AMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide

views
     
-vip3rleon9-
post Feb 14 2006, 08:14 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


hm.. do you guyz think it's kinda weird that my e3 3000+ can only be pushed to 239*9 3-3-3-8?? unsure.gif haha..
-vip3rleon9-
post Feb 17 2006, 09:59 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(KilJim @ Feb 14 2006, 10:17 PM)
pretty unusual
did u put dividers on your rams?
try 166 or 133 to find your max CPU speed
*
sry ya.. u mean limit the ram to 166 or 133 right? sweat.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Dec 26 2006, 08:38 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


hey all sifus,

i'm having a problem of not bring able to overclock my proc fully.

rig specs:

AMD Athlon64 3000+ Venice E3 Skt939
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
1024mb (512mb x2) Kingston Value Ram (Hynix DT-D43)
Enermax Noisetaker 470W

i can only max out at 239mhz * 9 (multiplier). if i set it at 240mhz, it won't boot Windows. anyone can teach me how to overcome this problem?

thanks in advance.
-vip3rleon9-
post Dec 28 2006, 12:28 AM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Dec 26 2006, 08:45 PM)
Memory divider? timings and voltage?
*
235mhz @ 2.5-3-3-8 @ CPU1/9 @ Dual Channel

QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 26 2006, 09:36 PM)
most D43 need little voltage boost to get DDR500 with loose timing
DT can do better than BT
*
how much to up to? tried upping to 2.75V. no diff.
-vip3rleon9-
post Dec 28 2006, 11:57 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(uzairi @ Dec 28 2006, 01:35 AM)
Try use 2.5-4-4-8 and up the voltage to 2.9v. Then test again and remember 2.9v is the max V u shud put for the d43 chips.
*
isn't that a lil too high? so 2.5-4-4-8 and 2.9v (2.85 possible? takut burn lah laugh.gif), then 250mhz*9?
-vip3rleon9-
post Dec 29 2006, 05:23 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(toughnut @ Dec 29 2006, 09:17 AM)
@-vip3rleon9-

try 3-3-3-8 and 2.7v first. if still cannot,try upping the Vdimm. my silly twin stick of rebranded ddr333 KVR can easily do ddr480 at 3-4-4-8-2T 2.9v (didn't dare go higher sweat.gif )
*
so far i'm running 2.5-3-3-8 @ default V @ DDR470. laugh.gif

i'll try using this timings and OC till DDR480 or even maybe DDR500 on 2.9V.
-vip3rleon9-
post Dec 29 2006, 06:40 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(Mcrae @ Dec 29 2006, 05:56 PM)
why need to OC your ram since u can OC your CPU already wan ?
*
i'm sorry but i don't quite understand your question. sweat.gif

@ toughnut,

just tried, Windows will not boot with settings above 240mhz. how?
-vip3rleon9-
post Dec 29 2006, 10:49 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Dec 29 2006, 09:04 PM)
no need to oc ur ram la.. used timing enought edi maaa... see ur proc first before ur fried ur ram lorrrr
*
seriously i don;t get what you guys are trying to tell me. blink.gif

by adjusting the fsb, am i not adjusting the ram clock's too? unsure.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 1 2007, 09:11 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(uzairi @ Dec 31 2006, 10:05 PM)
Nope, dont worry. 2.9v is still in the safe zone for passive cooling.
Its better to try 2.5-4-4-8 before 3-3-3-8 because the difference in the Cas Latency makes more different than those two in the middle.
Some chips can go and some cant depends on the chips itself. So try and experiment yourself.
Higher ram frequency with loose timing is better than slower ram frequency with tight timing.
*
ok. i just found out that my mobo only allows me to locate 2.85V max to my rams. blink.gif how?

tried both 2.5-3-3-8 and 3-3-3-8 and both stil won't allow my pc to boot Windows properly.

the seller of the DT-D43's, a friend of mine, said he managed to OC it till about 270mhz. but i forgot what proc he was on, would be 775. unsure.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 10 2007, 09:52 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(uzairi @ Jan 4 2007, 03:18 AM)
No worries, just set it to 2.85v then. Now just set it to the highest speed the ram can handle first, then lower your cpu multiplier. We use 8x ok ? Then put it 200mhz, 2.5-3-3-7 and burn in the rams at 2.85v for 1 day.
*
sorry for the late reply, have been quite busy lately. my apologies.

my rams are currently running @ 2.85v @ 235mhz.

and i just found out that the mobo i'm using does not allow me to choose the CPU multiplier or even the CPU:RAM divider. shakehead.gif so i'm wondering how should i set it. only setting i can change is the HT multiplier, but i don't see the point in changing it, as my HT is still safely in the 1800-2000 zone.

what should i do now? unsure.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 13 2007, 10:49 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 10 2007, 09:52 PM)
sorry for the late reply, have been quite busy lately. my apologies.

my rams are currently running @ 2.85v @ 235mhz.

and i just found out that the mobo i'm using does not allow me to choose the CPU multiplier or even the CPU:RAM divider. shakehead.gif so i'm wondering how should i set it. only setting i can change is the HT multiplier, but i don't see the point in changing it, as my HT is still safely in the 1800-2000 zone.

what should i do now? unsure.gif
*
anyone able to shed some light upon my darkness? unsure.gif laugh.gif

oh yeah, does high voltages convert into unstable Prime95 stress tests?
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 14 2007, 09:00 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 13 2007, 11:02 PM)
try this,when in bios try to press this two buttons:crtl+F1

it will enable advance bios configuration for sum mobos

btw,as a reminder,keep ur HTL speed sumwhere in 1000mhz range,do not exceed more than 1000mhz coz it might burn ur processor

HT*:hyper transport link
*
alright. will try that. i thought safe HT speed is from 1800-2000? sweat.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 18 2007, 11:22 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


ok i have burned in my rams @ 2.85v for more then 4 days iianm. but until now, i still cannot put my ram speed to more than 239mhz. the moment i set it at 240mhz, Windows won't load. the Window's screen just stays there while the blue moving line keeps on moving.

so what do you guyz think?
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 21 2007, 12:21 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


guys, just wondering. could my HTL be the culprit?

240mhz * 4 * 2 = 1920mhz (too high? unsure.gif)

my pc just won't load Windows on anything above 240mhz. 239mhz is still fine but 240mhz.. sweat.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 22 2007, 04:23 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 21 2007, 02:52 PM)
laugh.gif, i used to have this problem, i can't make it 240, but 239 instead...i don't know what i made or how did i, but it solved automatically...FYI, it is good range, but as a safe side...1000MHz~1500MHz should be allright...did i tell you, mine's @320x1x2=640MHz...
*
so just of of nowhere you managed more than 240mhz? blink.gif

wait. did you change your hdd?
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 22 2007, 10:00 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 06:43 PM)
yeah...me myself also wonder, what did i did to get it 240MHz...biggrin.gif

hmm.gif, i'm on 80GB PATA Maxtor + 40GB PATA Seagate doh.gif, old fella...tongue.gif
*
can you pls try to recall? cuz i desperately want to go above 2.1ghz. it's too slow. my target's around 2.7~ghz.

my friggin DT-D43's not doing anything, running at 235mhz. laugh.gif

before you past 240mhz, what hdd were you using? the same one? cuz i remember someone telling me that Seagate HDD's don't go well with MSI board's or something. sweat.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 22 2007, 11:06 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 10:29 PM)
ok...recalled tongue.gif...
here's what i'm did...(btw, you're using MSI K8N huh?)...i don't think cause of HDD la...
anyway, from what my brother experience (yes, it's my bro's XP -- not mine, i'm on DFI and Asus), anyway...at BIOS, do as usual overclock, say you want to set at 250MHz (which is surely it won't boot), doesn't matter, just set it 250MHz, reboot, but this time, press/hold Insert key, if doesnt work, cold boot then...switch off, while on, hold Insert key until POST appear, it might halt at post, but don't worry, hit F1 to continue...and voila, should be run normally...this method anyway, you have to do it everytime booting your system, from what my bro said, MSI's weakness...doh.gif
*
blink.gif everytime i want to boot? wahsaiii.. laugh.gif so i should hold the Insert key until Window's load?

damm i gotta try this tomorrow. can't wait to get it above 240mhz. laugh.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 22 2007, 11:21 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:14 PM)
nope, when cold-boot...what i meant was...normally, you just switch on right, so, this time, while switching on, hold Insert key until POST come up...after then, should be allright already...please do note, it'll HALT at POST screen, just press F1, it'll continue to boot...i don't know why MSI behave like this...something like Overclocking Safe Boot...
*
hm.. alright.. so actually, i need to cold-boot it in order for it to run >240mhz? laugh.gif yea using K8N Neo2FX. hehe..
-vip3rleon9-
post Jan 22 2007, 11:32 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:27 PM)
yeah, but you can try using combination Insert + Reset = Warm boot, laugh.gif same as my bro's PC, if you want details, you can always PM him...ryugan...
*
k so just to confirm, to cold-boot, hold insert key wihle pressing the power switch on the pc? laugh.gif
-vip3rleon9-
post Feb 2 2007, 02:07 PM

.:νιρэяıэои9:.
*******
Senior Member
7,516 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Petaling Jaya


QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:27 PM)
yeah, but you can try using combination Insert + Reset = Warm boot, laugh.gif same as my bro's PC, if you want details, you can always PM him...ryugan...
*
hey bro, i tried both warm and cold booting while holding the "Insert" key. until now, no prevail. and i think it somehow screwed up by HDD, cuz..

user posted image

as you can see from the pic, my 120gb Barracuda is shown as a 470gb HDD in my BIOS. sweat.gif

2 Pages  1 2 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0543sec    0.47    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 11th December 2025 - 03:33 AM