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 AMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide

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J-Slade
post Jan 23 2007, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 23 2007, 01:57 AM)
if i were you, i'd go for 320x9 with DDR266 biggrin.gif, CPU is everything.
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Are you sure its okay that the RAMs are running much slower than the FSB of CPU? I mean, performance wise it won't be affected?

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I found an article somewhere:
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To make it easier, convert the 5:4 ratio to a 100:80 ratio. So for every 100MHz your FSB runs at, your RAM will only run at 80MHz. Basically, this means that your RAM will only run at 80% of your FSB speed. So with your 250MHz target FSB, running in a 5:4 FSB:RAM ratio, your RAM will be running at 200MHz, which is 80% of 250MHz. This is perfect, since your RAM is rated for 200MHz.

This solution, however, isn't ideal. Running the FSB and RAM with a ratio causes gaps in between the time that the FSB can communicate with the RAM. This causes slowdowns that wouldn't be there if the RAM and the FSB were running at the same speed. If you want the most speed out of your system, using an FSB:RAM ratio wouldn't be the best solution.


So means having RAM speed way slower than FSB will affect the performance is it? How bad will it be?

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post Jan 23 2007, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 23 2007, 11:43 AM)
Are you sure its okay that the RAMs are running much slower than the FSB of CPU? I mean, performance wise it won't be affected?

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I found an article somewhere:
So means having RAM speed way slower than FSB will affect the performance is it? How bad will it be?
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hmm.gif...as matter of fact, yes, it'll impact performance...say you have Team eXtreme DDR600 couple with A64 3000+ 1.8GHz... you installed both, but do note, your RAM won't be at DDR600 since it's defaulted to DDR400 (200), but you can overclock it to 300 with 1:1 without problem...
another story, you have same CPU, A64 3000+ 1.8GHz coupled with Kingston ValueRAM DDR400, i tell you what, it is likely impossible to hit 300 with 1:1, so memory divider will do the job. about performance affected, as long as your RAM speed faster than stock DDR400 (even set at DDR333), you won't be feel any much difference...
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post Jan 23 2007, 07:21 PM

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Hi guys, after reading through the ram test, sp2004, i have one strange situation with my ram test, well my ram test always fail after about 10 minutes, but my sp2004 is ok, and playing game like LOTR, company of hero for 5 to 6 hours it stable. any comment about the ram test. Before that i have the reverse when i am using 2*512, now 1*1g. tq
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Jan 23 2007, 07:21 PM)
Hi guys, after reading through the ram test, sp2004, i have one strange situation with my ram test, well my ram test always fail after about 10 minutes, but my sp2004 is ok, and playing game like LOTR, company of hero for 5 to 6 hours it stable. any comment about the ram test. Before that i have the reverse when i am using 2*512, now 1*1g. tq
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what memory testing software you're using ?
speak out at least we can know more .
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btw, nVIDIA High End RAMS? i never knew nVIDIA got RAM also...hmm.gif
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high-end nvidia display card kut whistling.gif
he already have g.skill laugh.gif
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post Jan 23 2007, 10:39 PM

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i use mentest86 for ram test,
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post Jan 27 2007, 03:36 AM

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guys i need your help this time. After i reseted my bios , i configure up everthing properly and i try to push my cpu to 2400mhz... fine.. bios can detect me booting at 2400mhz.

But the problem is after start windows, windows detect i am using max at 2000mhz which is still at my default speed.

Any suggestion pls ?

thanks.

BTW my rig :
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 3200+ E6
DFI NF4 Ultra Infinity
Corsair 1 X 256 MB DDR400 CL2.5
Corsair 1 X 512 MB DDR400 CL2.5
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post Jan 27 2007, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Mcrae @ Jan 27 2007, 03:36 AM)
guys i need your help this time. After i reseted my bios , i configure up everthing properly and i try to push my cpu to 2400mhz... fine.. bios can detect me booting at 2400mhz.
But the problem is after start windows, windows detect i am using max at 2000mhz which is still at my default speed.
Any suggestion pls ?
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BTW my rig :
AMD Athlon™ 64 3200+ E6
DFI NF4 Ultra Infinity
Corsair 1 X 256 MB DDR400 CL2.5
Corsair 1 X 512 MB DDR400 CL2.5
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try turn off CnQ in BIOS
use CPU-Z to confirm the speed
venice should can push higher than 2.4GHz smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2007, 10:38 PM

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i hav done that.... but the problem is bios can make u run at 2400mhz but when start windows, it turn back to default speed... sad.gif
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post Jan 31 2007, 06:48 PM

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May i know how much i can OC my athlon 64 3200+ winchester core? coz i just bought this proc from my friend and didn't oced it yet..btw,i am eager to do it so..huhu.. my mobo is asus an8-e... can i just rise the FSB and let the RAM speed at auto so the ram will run at stock speed?
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QUOTE(ryudox @ Jan 31 2007, 06:48 PM)
May i know how much i can OC my athlon 64 3200+ winchester core? coz i just bought this proc from my friend and didn't oced it yet..btw,i am eager to do it so..huhu.. my mobo is asus an8-e... can i just rise the FSB and let the RAM speed at auto so the ram will run at stock speed?
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bought from your friend ? ask him loo whistling.gif
alright , you need reading :

Fundamentals of Overclocking

RAM speed set to AUTO doesn't mean it will run at stock speed depend on mobo and BIOS
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my friend run the proc at stock speed la bro...that's why i need to OC it..haha.. really..i run it on asus an8-e..stock bios..
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post Feb 1 2007, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(ryudox @ Jan 31 2007, 07:44 PM)
my friend run the proc at stock speed la bro...that's why i need to OC it..haha.. really..i run it on asus an8-e..stock bios..
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When you increase your FSB, the ram speed increases together. After a certain point, your RAM wont be able to take it then if you still want to continue to OC the FSB, then set the RAM speed to DDR333 (that means memory divider 5:6) and then you can proceed.. just remember to count 5/6 of FSB = Ram Speed.
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post Feb 1 2007, 12:11 PM

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Does anyone know how far athlon 64 3200+ winchester core can be OCed? venice 3000+ can reach 2.8 rite?
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post Feb 1 2007, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(ryudox @ Feb 1 2007, 12:11 PM)
Does anyone know how far athlon 64 3200+ winchester core can be OCed? venice 3000+ can reach 2.8 rite?
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Well, you're having one....

Why don't you try it out? lol laugh.gif
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post Feb 1 2007, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(ryudox @ Feb 1 2007, 12:11 PM)
Does anyone know how far athlon 64 3200+ winchester core can be OCed? venice 3000+ can reach 2.8 rite?
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anyway, u can refer to Lowyat.Net Overclocking Database.
Dont compare with winchester and venice.
Venice overclock well than winchester smile.gif
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QUOTE(camedemac @ Feb 1 2007, 06:18 PM)
anyway, u can refer to Lowyat.Net Overclocking Database.
Dont compare with winchester and venice.
Venice overclock well than winchester smile.gif
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btw,venice produce more heat than winnie rite? i am too lazy to read those thread in Lowyat.Net Overclocking Database...huhu..
yeah,i wanna OC this winnie,but need suggestion from u guys.. hmm.gif

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post Feb 2 2007, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:27 PM)
yeah, but you can try using combination Insert + Reset = Warm boot, laugh.gif same as my bro's PC, if you want details, you can always PM him...ryugan...
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hey bro, i tried both warm and cold booting while holding the "Insert" key. until now, no prevail. and i think it somehow screwed up by HDD, cuz..

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as you can see from the pic, my 120gb Barracuda is shown as a 470gb HDD in my BIOS. sweat.gif
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post Feb 2 2007, 03:30 PM

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Wah...how can 120G turned into 470G? huhu...u are so lucky bro...huhu..
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QUOTE(ryudox @ Feb 1 2007, 07:38 PM)
btw,venice produce more heat than winnie rite? i am too lazy to read those thread in Lowyat.Net Overclocking Database...huhu..
yeah,i wanna OC this winnie,but need suggestion from u guys.. hmm.gif
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hey brother , you shouldn't just post and wait us to spoon-feed sleep.gif .
we don't even see your processor before . CPU stepping , production week ... etc makes the different of all chips . i cannot say my venice can go 3GHz means the whole world also can go 3GHz , even from the same shop , same date , same wafer . that's why you have to try yourself ( pc is just by your side , not us laugh.gif ) .
if you worry your chip will die , then go up a little by little let's say 100MHz until not stable when PRIME / SUPERPI . as long as you don't add voltage i don't think it will hurt your CPU .
good luck on trying .

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hey bro, i tried both warm and cold booting while holding the "Insert" key. until now, no prevail. and i think it somehow screwed up by HDD, cuz..
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as you can see from the pic, my 120gb Barracuda is shown as a 470gb HDD in my BIOS. sweat.gif
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free hdd space ! thumbup.gif
still able to boot into windows ?
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QUOTE(ryudox @ Feb 2 2007, 03:30 PM)
Wah...how can 120G turned into 470G? huhu...u are so lucky bro...huhu..
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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 2 2007, 03:32 PM)
free hdd space ! thumbup.gif
still able to boot into windows ?
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with this, i can't even go past the BIOS into the Windows booting screen. doh.gif i'm seriously thinking of stopping OCing until i get my new rig.. it panicked the crap outta me.. suddenly 470gb.. sweat.gif

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