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 AMD K8 Family Overclocking (754/939/940/AM2/1207), General discussions and newbies' guide

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post Jan 21 2007, 12:21 PM

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guys, just wondering. could my HTL be the culprit?

240mhz * 4 * 2 = 1920mhz (too high? unsure.gif)

my pc just won't load Windows on anything above 240mhz. 239mhz is still fine but 240mhz.. sweat.gif
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post Jan 21 2007, 01:04 PM

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Sniper,i need ur help...i cant specify wut type of ram im using...i see Only this code on the chip "32M8BDBG PR1200614"...ive gone through the RAM's handbook at hardware section and google ,but still...no answer

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post Jan 21 2007, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 21 2007, 12:21 PM)
guys, just wondering. could my HTL be the culprit?

240mhz * 4 * 2 = 1920mhz (too high? unsure.gif)

my pc just won't load Windows on anything above 240mhz. 239mhz is still fine but 240mhz.. sweat.gif
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laugh.gif, i used to have this problem, i can't make it 240, but 239 instead...i don't know what i made or how did i, but it solved automatically...FYI, it is good range, but as a safe side...1000MHz~1500MHz should be allright...did i tell you, mine's @320x1x2=640MHz...

QUOTE(noobianz @ Jan 21 2007, 01:04 PM)
Sniper,i need ur help...i cant specify wut type of ram im using...i see Only this code on the chip "32M8BDBG PR1200614"...ive gone through the RAM's handbook at hardware section and google ,but still...no answer
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Corsair got "Guru" which they listed out all Corsair's Chip, you can head over there...IIANM, Corsair's House of Help, hope it'll help...FYI, it's for hi-performance RAM, but you can try...

http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=128
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post Jan 21 2007, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(RAM Guy from corsair house of help)
Value Select modules are built with RAMs that are procured at the wafer level and are packaged and tested to our specifications. As such, they are not available as individual ICs, only as modules. This approach allows us to ship product with very good performance characteristics, low product cost, and a very low return rate.
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post Jan 22 2007, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 21 2007, 02:52 PM)
laugh.gif, i used to have this problem, i can't make it 240, but 239 instead...i don't know what i made or how did i, but it solved automatically...FYI, it is good range, but as a safe side...1000MHz~1500MHz should be allright...did i tell you, mine's @320x1x2=640MHz...
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so just of of nowhere you managed more than 240mhz? blink.gif

wait. did you change your hdd?
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 22 2007, 04:23 PM)
so just of of nowhere you managed more than 240mhz? blink.gif

wait. did you change your hdd?
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yeah...me myself also wonder, what did i did to get it 240MHz...biggrin.gif

hmm.gif, i'm on 80GB PATA Maxtor + 40GB PATA Seagate doh.gif, old fella...tongue.gif
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post Jan 22 2007, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 06:43 PM)
yeah...me myself also wonder, what did i did to get it 240MHz...biggrin.gif

hmm.gif, i'm on 80GB PATA Maxtor + 40GB PATA Seagate doh.gif, old fella...tongue.gif
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can you pls try to recall? cuz i desperately want to go above 2.1ghz. it's too slow. my target's around 2.7~ghz.

my friggin DT-D43's not doing anything, running at 235mhz. laugh.gif

before you past 240mhz, what hdd were you using? the same one? cuz i remember someone telling me that Seagate HDD's don't go well with MSI board's or something. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 22 2007, 10:00 PM)
can you pls try to recall? cuz i desperately want to go above 2.1ghz. it's too slow. my target's around 2.7~ghz.

my friggin DT-D43's not doing anything, running at 235mhz. laugh.gif

before you past 240mhz, what hdd were you using? the same one? cuz i remember someone telling me that Seagate HDD's don't go well with MSI board's or something. sweat.gif
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ok...recalled tongue.gif...
here's what i'm did...(btw, you're using MSI K8N huh?)...i don't think cause of HDD la...
anyway, from what my brother experience (yes, it's my bro's XP -- not mine, i'm on DFI and Asus), anyway...at BIOS, do as usual overclock, say you want to set at 250MHz (which is surely it won't boot), doesn't matter, just set it 250MHz, reboot, but this time, press/hold Insert key, if doesnt work, cold boot then...switch off, while on, hold Insert key until POST appear, it might halt at post, but don't worry, hit F1 to continue...and voila, should be run normally...this method anyway, you have to do it everytime booting your system, from what my bro said, MSI's weakness...doh.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 10:29 PM)
ok...recalled tongue.gif...
here's what i'm did...(btw, you're using MSI K8N huh?)...i don't think cause of HDD la...
anyway, from what my brother experience (yes, it's my bro's XP -- not mine, i'm on DFI and Asus), anyway...at BIOS, do as usual overclock, say you want to set at 250MHz (which is surely it won't boot), doesn't matter, just set it 250MHz, reboot, but this time, press/hold Insert key, if doesnt work, cold boot then...switch off, while on, hold Insert key until POST appear, it might halt at post, but don't worry, hit F1 to continue...and voila, should be run normally...this method anyway, you have to do it everytime booting your system, from what my bro said, MSI's weakness...doh.gif
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blink.gif everytime i want to boot? wahsaiii.. laugh.gif so i should hold the Insert key until Window's load?

damm i gotta try this tomorrow. can't wait to get it above 240mhz. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 22 2007, 11:06 PM)
blink.gif everytime i want to boot? wahsaiii.. laugh.gif so i should hold the Insert key until Window's load?

damm i gotta try this tomorrow. can't wait to get it above 240mhz. laugh.gif
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nope, when cold-boot...what i meant was...normally, you just switch on right, so, this time, while switching on, hold Insert key until POST come up...after then, should be allright already...please do note, it'll HALT at POST screen, just press F1, it'll continue to boot...i don't know why MSI behave like this...something like Overclocking Safe Boot...
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:14 PM)
nope, when cold-boot...what i meant was...normally, you just switch on right, so, this time, while switching on, hold Insert key until POST come up...after then, should be allright already...please do note, it'll HALT at POST screen, just press F1, it'll continue to boot...i don't know why MSI behave like this...something like Overclocking Safe Boot...
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hm.. alright.. so actually, i need to cold-boot it in order for it to run >240mhz? laugh.gif yea using K8N Neo2FX. hehe..
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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Jan 22 2007, 11:21 PM)
hm.. alright.. so actually, i need to cold-boot it in order for it to run >240mhz? laugh.gif yea using K8N Neo2FX. hehe..
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yeah, but you can try using combination Insert + Reset = Warm boot, laugh.gif same as my bro's PC, if you want details, you can always PM him...ryugan...
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 22 2007, 11:27 PM)
yeah, but you can try using combination Insert + Reset = Warm boot, laugh.gif same as my bro's PC, if you want details, you can always PM him...ryugan...
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k so just to confirm, to cold-boot, hold insert key wihle pressing the power switch on the pc? laugh.gif
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post Jan 22 2007, 11:48 PM

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Pening man...

What is Cold Boot & Warm Boot?
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 22 2007, 11:48 PM)
Pening man...

What is Cold Boot & Warm Boot?
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Cold Boot - when you switch on your system from off state

Warm Boot - when you restart/reset your system it'll reboot, that is Warm Boot

Hard Reset - force reset eithe during booting, desktop mode, or gaming mode...
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post Jan 23 2007, 01:51 AM

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I need your opinion. Not exactly opinion actually..... I wanna know the truth biggrin.gif

RAM DIVIDER QUESTION

166/200 of 270FSB means RAM Speed = 220Mhz
(CPU will be 270 x 9 = 2.43Ghz)

or

133/200 of 320FSB means RAM Speed = ~212Mhz
(CPU will be 320 x 9 = 2.88Ghz)


WHICH IS BETTER?


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I understand that the RAM speed should always try to sync with FSB 1:1 but what if I lowered the RAM divider, does it make my Overclocking worse?

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Jan 23 2007, 01:51 AM)
I need your opinion. Not exactly opinion actually..... I wanna know the truth  biggrin.gif

RAM DIVIDER QUESTION

166/200 of 270FSB means RAM Speed = 220Mhz
(CPU will be 270 x 9 = 2.43Ghz)

or

133/200 of 320FSB means RAM Speed = ~212Mhz
(CPU will be 320 x 9 = 2.88Ghz)


WHICH IS BETTER?


*add-on*
I understand that the RAM speed should always try to sync with FSB 1:1 but what if I lowered the RAM divider, does it make my Overclocking worse?
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if i were you, i'd go for 320x9 with DDR266 biggrin.gif, CPU is everything.
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i own an FX-53 on K8N Diamond Plus with GSKILL XTREME RAMS and Nvidia High End Rams
but u know what
i never believe in OC'ing pc's
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loved stock speeds
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Why not give Overclocking a try ? You'll get addicted soon, trust me.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jan 23 2007, 03:17 AM)
i own an FX-53 on K8N Diamond Plus with GSKILL XTREME RAMS and Nvidia High End Rams
but u know what
i never believe in OC'ing pc's
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loved stock speeds
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doh.gif...duh, a good CPU fell into wrong hand, that kind of CPU is designated to be overclocked, i can hear the overclocking scream from your FX-53 tongue.gif...
well, kidding...IMO, overclock it, you never know how well your CPU/RAM can go unless you overclock it...once you hit the optimum, you'll feel the difference...take mine for example...i used to run @2.88GHz, DDR640...but during my PSU being borrowed to my brother, i have to run at stock which is very painfull especialy in online Battlefield 2...

btw, nVIDIA High End RAMS? i never knew nVIDIA got RAM also...hmm.gif

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