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uzairi
post Aug 13 2006, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(DeadGoat666 @ Aug 11 2006, 04:29 PM)
just got my Opty 146 (2GHz), PNY 7600gt, DFi NF4 SLi and Sunbeam 550w NUOO series last week.... biggrin.gif
till now still try to get the most of it mainly at the proc & mobo segmen... needs some advice out there maybe this setup can do more than wud currently i got

the full specs are:
AMD Opteron 146 (2GHz, 1MB L2 Cache) @ 2.76GHz, 166MHz Divider tongue.gif
DFi Infinity NF4 SLi
Kingston Hyper-X 512MB PC3200 (Windbond CH-5 chip) @ 230MHz, 2-3-3-8
PNY 7600GT DDR3
Sunbeam NUUO Series SLi 550w

below are my latest screenshot since last night...
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Dude, ur psu rails are too low. U are risking your hardwares with that such low rails. Try to find DMM and measure it, or decrease the clocks.

QUOTE(king99 @ Aug 12 2006, 09:31 PM)
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Im using the same mobo as u, but havent maximise my proc yet. Just use the rated speed timings. When u reached the limit, then tighten the memory timings.

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post Aug 28 2006, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Aug 25 2006, 08:15 PM)
Hi , I've just have change my pro to a 3500+ . How high can this baby go ?
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U need to try it yourself. Overclocking defers with each other.

QUOTE(donald.T @ Aug 28 2006, 02:05 PM)
hi there, I need your advice as to determine the correct memory divider in making DDR-2 667Mhz running its full speed, I am using Athlon 64 3000, clocked at 2000MHz

I just want to let the RAM running by its maximum speed, I dont want to modify vcore or FSB/HTT settings
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U can do that unless youre playing with the fsb/htt settings.
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post Aug 29 2006, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Aug 28 2006, 09:24 PM)
err.. all sifus.. i'm new to A64 939, got myself a 3700+ san diego on Asus A8N-E recently, tried clocking it to 2.4Ghz, booted up properly, but then when i check it thru system properties, it shows 2.2Ghz, check with CPU-Z, it shows 2.2Ghz too.. but when i check with Asus Ai booster, it shows 2.4Ghz like what i set in bios..  this doesn't happens to my other A64 at home(3000+ venice on A8N-E too).. anyone knows what is wrong here?? was it with the Sandiego or ??
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Have u disabled the "Cool n Quiet" ?
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post Sep 5 2006, 04:15 AM

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QUOTE(king99 @ Aug 14 2006, 09:32 PM)
Can teach me on how to do it ? notworthy.gif
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Er, why not try AMD64info software. U can tune it from inside windows. I think its almost the same as A64 Tweaker.

QUOTE(DeadGoat666 @ Aug 17 2006, 11:01 PM)
hehe... those rails actually i'm not fully mapped it with actual sensor yet... just install mbm and go.... i dun think a SLi certified psu would do that  tongue.gif anyway the rails are great in CMOS
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Yeah, better get a DMM for accurate readings.

QUOTE(ianho @ Sep 2 2006, 10:17 AM)
What's the best way to burn in a chip from u guys experience ar? I've never had to do burn in coz always been lucky to get gem CPUs that OC like hell straight from the box.

This time not so lucky. My X2 4200+ oni can max out to 2.42ghz dual prime stable at stock voltage. That's y I've been burning it in by dual priming for like 12 hours, stop to let AS5 settle, then dual prime 12 hours again, on off on off like that. How long shud I burn in b4 pushing for more FSB again? I've read that we shud burn in for bout a week, then push FSB, burn another week, push FSB again in that order until u c no more gains in FSB.
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Me i just did like yours. Then stop for a while and continue. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 9 2006, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Sep 7 2006, 03:03 AM)
can anyone help me with my sempron 2600+?
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What's your sempron problem ? Mind to tell your problems with your system spec ?

QUOTE(brabus55 @ Sep 8 2006, 05:01 PM)
at 9 mutli..i cant go more than 285 at 1.7v..ldt set to 3..is it because of the mobo or proc?can u giv me contact num..ym?easy to chat..thanx bro
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What i can suggest is, never go more than 1.6v on stock hsf. Slowly crank up the htt/fsb and burn in for each 5mhz increment. About the ram setting, i think u should use weak drive strength the timings 2.5-4-4-8 first. What's your vdimm ?
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post Sep 24 2006, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(awang @ Sep 21 2006, 02:00 PM)
i dun think its memory prob coz the speed now is at 200 with stock voltage..the highest i can go without memory error is at 230mhz..now i'm trying new setting ..the voltage for the cpu in bios is at 1.58v for this new setting when error occurs..do i need to add more or is there other way? or izit temp issue?
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U need to loosen the memory timings in order to go higher. It depends also which ram youre using while increasing the ram clock.

QUOTE(sub_noob @ Sep 22 2006, 02:55 AM)
I got Prob Oc this rig.. Whenever i increase it Frequency it will start to hang.. Dunno y hard to OC this rig.. Can any sifu teach me as im new in amd..
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U need to increase the voltage when u increase the clock.
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post Sep 28 2006, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 25 2006, 10:46 PM)
TCCD won't like high voltage.  Some people spoiled their TCCD after running with more than 3.0V for a while.

I would say the safe range would be 2.8V - 2.9V. The lower the better.
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I run mine with 280mhz @ 2.7v rite now. Will try to increase the mhz till 300mhz and see how it goes.

QUOTE(lichyetan @ Sep 26 2006, 12:47 AM)
TCCD run damn hot at high frequency...
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Put a 80mm fan above it, that would do it.

QUOTE(sub_noob @ Sep 26 2006, 03:06 PM)
Got conflict with the bios and the oc guru..If  Setting in bios, cpu-z still show the default settings.. Need to uninstall the oc guru? Better use oc guru or manual?
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Have u turned off the Cool 'n' Quite at the bios ?
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post Sep 28 2006, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Sep 28 2006, 03:41 AM)
my TCCD running daily at 2.83V @ DDR640 (320MHz@3-4-4-8)
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Mine cant even post at CL3. doh.gif Mind to share your A64 Tweaker setting ?

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post Oct 20 2006, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Oct 17 2006, 11:14 AM)
guys...

my winchester 3000+ having prob to push 2.2ghz.. prime failed after 45minutes... damn.. b4 tis im using 2.2ghz for 5 months already!... already prime 16hour stable.. but when last week i format my pc.. after revert to default.. make sure the stability... im try to oc again.. set to 2.2ghz.. but when prime... always failed...

my setting :

244*9
HTspeed x4
dram 166mhz 2-2-2-5
1T

my board cant change the multiplier.. s**k it...

any help?
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U can change the multiplier downwards and raise the HTT while playing with dividers.

QUOTE(GHz1 @ Oct 18 2006, 12:49 PM)
You are right. Mine is AAA. But, forgot the week production d. AMD64 3000+ 2.6GHz @stock vcore.  smile.gif What do u think?
Never thought got CHINA made b4. But I got it  sad.gif
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U got a nice proc there, i need 1.48v to get 2.6ghz. Made in China doesnt mean they're not good. wink.gif
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post Oct 21 2006, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Oct 20 2006, 11:12 AM)
bro.. my mobo lock the multiplier... cant change downwards....
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Hurmm, then u can only manipulate the HTT and Dividers.

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 20 2006, 08:54 PM)
how to check my nominal/default CPU voltage? where to find the info?
cos the value in CPU-Z keeps shifting between 1.376 and 1.392v.

after i found out from OPN, it's 1.4v. why so big difference between 1.376v?

where to find info on my PCI frequency besides BIOS? any software?

Quote from Overclock.net

i'm using a nForce 410 mobo.(those with built in 6100GPU, i have a dedicated graphics card anyway) it doesn't have the lock options in my BIOS. does that means it is lock?
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The voltage does fluctuate so dont worry that much and yes its 1.4v. IIRC your mobo is locked so no worries.
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post Oct 23 2006, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Oct 21 2006, 03:09 PM)
no la..  no option for multi.. huhu.. but my prob is can oc my cpu... prime always failed after reformat... maybe i need to reformat again?
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Prime error because not enough voltage/not stable.

QUOTE(mantoba @ Oct 23 2006, 12:37 AM)
hai.. is that really o.k to run cpu with vcore 1.545V for a long term bcoz currently i ran at that voltage somebody say it is safe as long as vcore lower than 1.625V...
Right now i manage to get 9x290=2.61GHz...8+ hour prime test without error with large FFT and ram prior at 4....
Has anybody got bad exprience when run Vcore above than 1.5V for along term..
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What's ur load temp ? Im using 1.66v for my vcore and im using good cooling on it.

QUOTE(mantoba @ Oct 23 2006, 12:45 AM)
For Snipper69..
i really want to know.. is that proc really o.k to run below than stock vcore or only certain proc can run vcore below the stock vcore like ur proc..
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U can use any vcore as long as the proc is stable.
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post Oct 28 2006, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(mantoba @ Oct 23 2006, 03:07 PM)
i use stock cooling, here my cpu temp :

idle : 42
full load (while prime test) : 55

is that temp ok or i need to replace my cpu cooling to run at that vcore for a long term..
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I supposed that load temp is near to the TCaseMax temp which means that's the max safe temp for daily use. Upgrade a better cooling so that it can lower the load temp.

QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Oct 24 2006, 04:40 AM)
Alrighty.
Used three motherboards, socket 939 till AM2, all of them won't let me boot at 280HTT.
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Other than test the mobo with other bios, u can increase the nf4 chipset voltage and see whether there's and improvement with the extra voltage added.
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post Oct 29 2006, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Oct 29 2006, 02:41 PM)
MObo : Abit KN8 Ultra V1.1
PRocessor : AMD Athlon 64 3000+ .. Venice ..
Ram : kingston DDR400 PC 3200 512 mb X 2 ..
GC : Colorful 256 mb DDR3 7600 GT ..
HDD : WD 160 gb SATA2 ..

just thinking whether can oc or not ..
i guess the mobo not that good lor ..
and i dun have a cooling system also ..
if i wan OC , i think i should get ram cooler and better heatsink right ?
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That board is good, just less memory tweaking options and the vmem wont go above 2.9v so remember about that.

QUOTE(avengers88 @ Oct 29 2006, 02:52 PM)
really good at OC-ing ..?
ur specs and mine about the same ..
except for ur motherboard .. lol ..
u planning to OC too ?
but one of my buddy say the motherboard capacitor no good wor ..
anytime can leak one .. sigh ..
anyway , can i use a higher DDR besides DDR400 ??
if can i plan to sell of my ram and get a faster one ..
and do i need to get better heatsink and ram cooler ?
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Capasitors wont leak in 1 week bro. laugh.gif So dont be afraid. A good cooling is a must if u plan to overlock. A good psu also helps u in overclocking.

QUOTE(kulus @ Oct 29 2006, 04:32 PM)
1. If u think u wanna bump lots of vcore, so u better change ur hsf
2. If u just wanna do some mild OCing, just stay with ur current ram
3. U can OC using kn8 ultra, but for better overclocking, use DFI is

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1. More voltage = more heat.
2. You use dividers to overclock the processor. Not necessary to get higher performance rams.
3. Im using this board too. Been running 2.8ghz 24/7 for quite some time already. The only drawback is less memory tweaking options. But anyway im running my TCCD at 290mhz and that is reasonably good.
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post Nov 2 2006, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Nov 2 2006, 12:00 AM)
s-940 use ddr1 with ecc

s-AM2 use ddr2  tongue.gif
s-939 use ddr1 w/o ecc

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not necessarily. higher clockspeed will contribute more heat. if you pump higher voltage at default speed (example 1.8ghz on 3000+) the temperature is not much different... probably only around 2-3'C higher.
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Still higher rite even tough its just 2-3c ? No doubt about having higher clockspeed which contributes to higher temperatures.

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post Nov 4 2006, 12:28 AM

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You wouldnt know until u test it. Different proc would yield different results.
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post Nov 8 2006, 01:58 AM

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Yeah, they are easier to burn/spoilt under overclocking with cheap psu.
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post Dec 22 2006, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(r47z @ Dec 20 2006, 04:04 PM)
I tried overclocking my rig yest with core centre i'm using nf4 ultra plat together with x2 4600 939 and 2gb value ram.

it is ok ah? My temp will go highest up 50. My core i have increase to 1.75 Anything less than that, it will restart itself.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=148100

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CPU : AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (*1)
CPU Arch : 2 Cores - 2 Threads
CPU PSN : AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+
CPU EXT : MMX (+) 3DNow! (+) SSE SSE2 SSE3 x86-64
CPU Cache : L1 : 2 x 64/2 x 64 KB - L2 : 2 x 512 KB
Core : Manchester (90 nm) / Revision : BH-E4
CPUID : F.B.1 / Extended : F.2B
Freq : 2664.24 MHz (222.02 * 12)
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MB Brand : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO. LTD
MB Model : MS-7125
NB : NVIDIA nForce4 rev A3
SB : NVIDIA nForce4 MCP rev A3
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RAM Size : 2048 MB
RAM Freq : 222 MHz
RAM Type : DDR-SDRAM Dual Channel
RAM Ratio : CPU/12
RAM Timings : 3-3-3-8
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Slot 1 : 1024MB (PC3200)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : Kingston
Slot 2 : 1024MB (PC3200)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : Kingston
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Dude, that is way too high. I recommend you not to go above 1.6v for daily use or u might end up with a dead chip later.

QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 20 2006, 10:20 PM)
very high voltage  sweat.gif

btw , i'm trying to get A64 ES icon_idea.gif  . any opnion ?
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ES doesnt confirm that u can go high as they are just Engineering Sample and there's still bug within the proc.

QUOTE(mentalkronik @ Dec 21 2006, 01:47 AM)
is there any different with batch dh-e3 and e3???
i can only  oc to 279 fsb... sad.gif
with 1.6vcore..
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Both are E3, no differences. FSB ? Meaning the ram clock speed ? That one depends on your ram actually, and vdimm does effect the overclocking but not vcore.
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post Dec 24 2006, 12:01 AM

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Nice, what's the voltage used for 2.6 Ghz ? Is it prime stable ?
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post Dec 26 2006, 02:26 AM

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Try to use 3-4-4-8 and do a memtest again. Dont forget to update us here.
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post Dec 28 2006, 01:35 AM

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Try use 2.5-4-4-8 and up the voltage to 2.9v. Then test again and remember 2.9v is the max V u shud put for the d43 chips.

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