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 Marantz Club - Because Music Matters~, Do share your marantz stories

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ktek
post Apr 27 2017, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 08:26 AM)
You mean it is the android box kepo and did something silly? If like that... mean Android box is never a good source for stereo system
Good suggestion... I will try it tonight.  thumbup.gif
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lossless pcm is rip from cd rite?
44100hz

droid app is possible to run 48000hz (suitable for bd bitstream and newer hires codec)
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post Apr 27 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 27 2017, 08:37 AM)
lossless pcm is rip from cd rite?
44100hz

droid app is possible to run 48000hz (suitable for bd bitstream and newer hires codec)
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You are right. PCM is ripped from CD.

Good point... I wonder if I can see the sampling rate from NA8005. Anyone? I know some DAC will show it...
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post Apr 27 2017, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 01:35 AM)
Something is weird and I do not understand;

Setup A - Lossless PCM Music wave files @ NAS ==> LAN ==> HiMedia Q10 Pro (max vol to max bit transfer) ==> co-axis digital ==> NA8005 (as DAC) ==> PM8005 (Source Direct) ==> KEF Q700

Setup B - Lossless PCM Music wave files @ NAS ==> LAN ==> NA8005 (use music server function) ==> PM8005 (Source Direct) ==> KEF Q700

How come setup B give way better sound than setup A? It should be the same as both setup are using the NA8005 DAC, thus should be same result right? The volume is identical from both setup.

The setup B clearly better with much more details. Is it possible the NA8005 actually add some modifications aka ajinomoto to the sound? But if it does, usually has sub-effects, which I did not notice any.

Any1 has any idea?
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Coaxial is very suspicious hmm.gif
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post Apr 27 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 09:33 AM)
You are right. PCM is ripped from CD.
Good point... I wonder if I can see the sampling rate from NA8005. Anyone? I know some DAC will show it...
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try press info button on remote.
or use fone remote app.

mine streamer macam cannot.
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post Apr 27 2017, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Apr 27 2017, 10:06 AM)
Coaxial is very suspicious hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 27 2017, 10:28 AM)
try press info button on remote.
or use fone remote app.

mine streamer macam cannot.
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I think now the highest chance of root cause is due to the resampling rate... It actually make sense for any media player to focus on movies... and ignore hifi music playback, which is not their domains.. If need to support Ripped wave file, they will need another clock in the player.
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post Apr 27 2017, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 09:33 AM)
You are right. PCM is ripped from CD.

Good point... I wonder if I can see the sampling rate from NA8005. Anyone? I know some DAC will show it...
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must be kan..if can't thats really suck bcoz even avr can show sampling rate hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bad2928 @ Apr 27 2017, 02:17 PM)
must be kan..if can't thats really suck bcoz even avr can show sampling rate  hmm.gif
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AVR can show, but dunno correct or not...

Like DTS HA MA stream, my 5010 show 48kHz sampling rate only...
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post Apr 27 2017, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 02:37 PM)
AVR can show, but dunno correct or not...

Like DTS HA MA stream, my 5010 show 48kHz sampling rate only...
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i guess2 is correct. becos i play most bd from play station also write 48khz. no matter true hd or dts master
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post Apr 27 2017, 02:50 PM

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regarding droid ressmple. can try onkyo player app.
so far is the best among many app to tackle resample i tested using ear (non scientific way)
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post Apr 27 2017, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 27 2017, 02:47 PM)
i guess2 is correct. becos i play most bd from play station also write 48khz. no matter true hd or dts master
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Refering to http://www.audiogurus.com/learn/electronic...aster-audio/186

DTS-HD MA should be at least 96k sampling rate hmm.gif
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post Apr 27 2017, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 04:05 PM)
Refering to http://www.audiogurus.com/learn/electronic...aster-audio/186

DTS-HD MA should be at least 96k sampling rate  hmm.gif
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no la..most HD audio in 48khz 24bit,only certain movie decode with 96khz but its pointless because audyssey down sample to 48khz.you can check sample rate very easy if your movie/player source from pc
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post Apr 27 2017, 05:41 PM

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from source player writing 48khz.
avr is audyssey @48khz too
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post Apr 27 2017, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ Apr 27 2017, 05:14 PM)
no la..most HD audio in 48khz 24bit,only certain movie decode with 96khz but its pointless because audyssey down sample to 48khz.you can check sample rate very easy if your movie/player source from pc
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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 27 2017, 05:41 PM)
from source player writing 48khz.
avr is audyssey @48khz too
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So what displayed in AVR is correct? In that case I can use AVR to detect the media player digital out sampling rate. cool2.gif
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post Apr 27 2017, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 10:33 PM)
So what displayed in AVR is correct? In that case I can use AVR to detect the media player digital out sampling rate.  cool2.gif
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i wish to know the answer smile.gif himedia player

btw. marantz fone app cannot sample rate. only bit rate
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post Apr 27 2017, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 27 2017, 11:34 PM)
i wish to know the answer smile.gif himedia player

btw. marantz fone app cannot sample rate. only bit rate
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Which model you know? NA series or SR series? hmm.gif
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post Apr 28 2017, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 11:47 PM)
Which model you know? NA series or SR series?  hmm.gif
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oh sorry making confusion.
i dunno any. wait ur test result using himedia to sr5010
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post Apr 28 2017, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 27 2017, 10:33 PM)
So what displayed in AVR is correct? In that case I can use AVR to detect the media player digital out sampling rate.  cool2.gif
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yes is correct,been play around with sample rate from foobar(bit perfect) before icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 29 2017, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Apr 27 2017, 10:06 AM)
Coaxial is very suspicious hmm.gif
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hdamp1.
the serial number is it below 300 ?
i saw jp got recall product for 音量调整不具合
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post Apr 29 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 29 2017, 02:04 PM)
hdamp1.
the serial number is it below 300 ?
i saw jp got recall product for 音量调整不具合
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Not sure woh, but my one no volume inbalance problem ah
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buying another mini receiver mcr610, waiting to carry home biggrin.gif

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