The department is called Risk and Business Solutions (RABS). But RABS is broken down into 3 totally different units. Business Advisory Services (BAS) provides consulting services to our clients for engagements such as project management. Business Risk Services (BRS) mainly provides internal audit services to our clients. Technology and Security Risk Services (TSRS) does IT consulting and IT audit. Which unit are you placed in? PM me if anything.

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This post has been edited by ridzaienz: Sep 17 2007, 11:46 PM

hi there, ive been offered an internship program in the audit department at both KPMG and Ernst&Young. problem is, i dont know which one should i choose because i dont have that many info about both firms. im based in taman tun, so both KPMG and EY are quite convenient for me. but my concern is the scope of work, salary and chances of permanent employment. please advise, thanks

i heard from the grapevine that this department really sucks... hahahaha

it's just something i heard from my friend who's working there now..

audit is a good field? how about it audit? is there possible for it ppl to move to audit field? how about sap audit?

hi there, ive been offered an internship program in the audit department at both KPMG and Ernst&Young. problem is, i dont know which one should i choose because i dont have that many info about both firms. im based in taman tun, so both KPMG and EY are quite convenient for me. but my concern is the scope of work, salary and chances of permanent employment. please advise, thanks

KPMG and Deloitte more seasoned old men, EY and PwC more young braggarts. U decide.

oh, haha. thanks for the info!

don't listen to this moron.

crab!!!! rubbish!!!

urmm.. i assume u are working at one of these firms? mind sharing whats the environment like? which department is best anyway?

A lot of so-called young hotshots are recruited into PwC, and they have never failed to give me and my colleagues headaches and frustrations every year during audit. Why? All because of their incapacity and lack of homework done before they come over for the audit. And most of my (freshie) friends (whom I don't regard too highly) in Big 4 are either in PwC or E&Y.

Deloitte is well-known to be the more 'conservative', more 'technical', less 'adventurous' among the Big 4 firms, and to me, that is good. We don't wanna work in a firm where fresh young 'uns run the show, do we?

young guns don't run the Big4.. PERIOD.

Fact is number of "old" ppl in Big4 is less than 1% of their entired workforce

Don't simply say things when you have no idea what you are talking about.

OK, then I shall rephrase for the benefit of some of you, 'Young 'uns roaming around'.

i'll be going for internship too and i'm in ur situation too. the different is that ey offers me tax, but kpmg and bdo offers me audit. so for me, ey is out of the picture coz "if u want to learn more, better be in audit department", this i quote from mr mok, a senior partner of bdo who interviewed me. so back to your concern, i dunno whether what kpmg told u is the same as what they told me, but they are offerring me rm800 monthly as allowance. so i assume all interns of kpmg will get rm800. that's the highest offer for me, as for now. bdo only offers me rm500 monthly but they do recognize your period of internship with them as a basic ground for them to consider you a permanent job later after graduate. what i learned from Mr Mok, he was a partner of kpmg but in the end he joins bdo, and he explained to me the bright prospect of BDO compare to the big 4. now, i am also confuse...spoilt for choice....


p.s : nadyaclumzzy....macam penah dgr je....dak mmu ek? ntah2 classmate ni hehee

haha..yea in mmu. classmate kot? anyway, yup they have revised and both E&Y and KPMG are offering RM800 now

lol i wanan know whats the prospect of BDO compared to big 4.. please let me know.. heheh

BDO is emerging FAST & they pay well .... really well!! They even pulled most employees from KPMG corporate finance team.

But trust me .... DONT GO EY! Should you consider EY, might as well go BDO or PwC as they pay better and they provides training before you go on a job. EY only revising their salary and it is not confirmed yet whilst other accounting firms already revised ages ago. EY does not provide training before you go to do a job, it depends on when you join. Usually they gives training around Jun - Oct. In addition, there is not much good food around that area at night, only mamak (Ali Maju X 3) and a MacD.

Good luck in your decision.



PS: I was an employee from EY. Quitted ages ago!

ANYone knows when does KPMG gonna move to the KPMG Tower at Bandar Utama..i thot they shld re-locate earlier this year....but seems still situated at Jalan Dungun at K.L..

I guess BDO may be up and coming. But for a fact they won't be able to steal all the large clients. Which is why PwC is considered no.1 even tho we have less clients than EY. Go to most of the Fortune 500 co.s and most likely they won't know what BDO is.
From a Corporate finance perspective going from Big 4 to BDO is considered a demotion. You normally aim for the foreign IBs or PE houses after serving your time. Its all about deal value and volume. Check out Thomson Financials latest figures for this..you won't find BDO anywhere....