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locorocco
post Mar 4 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(kevinleng @ Apr 7 2007, 09:23 AM)
The department is called Risk and Business Solutions (RABS). But RABS is broken down into 3 totally different units. Business Advisory Services (BAS) provides consulting services to our clients for engagements such as project management. Business Risk Services (BRS) mainly provides internal audit services to our clients. Technology and Security Risk Services (TSRS) does IT consulting and IT audit. Which unit are you placed in? PM me if anything.
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i heard from the grapevine that this department really sucks... hahahaha

it's just something i heard from my friend who's working there now.. smile.gif





locorocco
post Mar 5 2008, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Prince_Hamsap @ Mar 5 2008, 12:30 AM)
KPMG and Deloitte more seasoned old men, EY and PwC more young braggarts. U decide.
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don't listen to this moron.


locorocco
post Mar 6 2008, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Prince_Hamsap @ Mar 6 2008, 12:38 AM)
A lot of so-called young hotshots are recruited into PwC, and they have never failed to give me and my colleagues headaches and frustrations every year during audit. Why? All because of their incapacity and lack of homework done before they come over for the audit. And most of my (freshie) friends (whom I don't regard too highly) in Big 4 are either in PwC or E&Y.

Deloitte is well-known to be the more 'conservative', more 'technical', less 'adventurous' among the Big 4 firms, and to me, that is good. We don't wanna work in a firm where fresh young 'uns run the show, do we?
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young guns don't run the Big4.. PERIOD.

Fact is number of "old" ppl in Big4 is less than 1% of their entired workforce tongue.gif

Don't simply say things when you have no idea what you are talking about.
locorocco
post Apr 7 2008, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(kevinleng @ Apr 5 2008, 06:18 PM)
Well, I really don't know which unit your friend is in; but i don't know what is it about the department that "sucks". If you could be a bit more specific about what's wrong with the department, I'd be more than happy to help clarify some issues. No matter where you work, there will be problems and issues. So I would sincerely like to know where what is it about the department that doesn't suit your friend.
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My friend is in TSRS. Where staffs are not guided and some bosses sitting around doing nothing but enjoying the view of their staffs working in misery.

Which unit you're in? Are you guided? Do you know what you're doing is really correct ? What are you comparing against? Last year's work paper? Best practices?

MY friend was telling me.. he spent his time there trying to figure out what is going on.. he learn it himself but then it's like when he moved overseas he realised that what he was doing in that department is wrong. l rolleyes.gif

His current boss sort of like tell him... Probably that's why clients get pissed at them back in KL. They don't even know what they are doing. How can they "advise" their clients.


Added on April 7, 2008, 9:28 am
QUOTE(abcdefcuk @ Apr 6 2008, 03:02 PM)
i feel kevinleng has been very just and objective with his reply to the rest here. however i would like to further add into his point. I agree there's not much difference between PwC, EY, KPMG and DKC in terms of audit. As such, it becomes rather tougher to choose which of these group should one join if given offers. However, I do feel we should take into rather smaller and personal factors while making such decision. The factors i am referring are such as, which firm is situated nearer to your hse, which firm has got better car park space infact. Basically which firm provides most convenience to yourself. I know ppl may laugh at my suggestion and said, "Dude, auditors go out of their office wan la".

My answer is, "so you dont go back to ur office at all wan la throughout your attachment with them?"

u'd be surprise the addion amount of petrol bill, tol charges, parking rates you may have to incurred as a result of choosing the wrong firm to work at. I know these figures may be relatively small, but i base my reason to the scenario of a junior/fresh grad coming into the accounting world. already you'd have to work 10-14 hrs a day, the last thing u really need is to drive further and back from office to home and bear more expenses in the midst.

Cheers  icon_rolleyes.gif
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would like to tell you something. There is a lot of difference in PWC, EY, KPMG and DKC.

The difference is in which service line you want to be involved in.

For example...

Specialisation in Ext Audit in Banking: firms to choose would be PWC and EY
Specialisation in Ext Audit in Manufacturing: firms to choose would be DTT
IT Advisory: KPMG has the largest. Their dept doubles every other Big4's (even though after the major movement to BDO)
Transaction ADvisory: PWC or BDO
TAx: EY and DTT (these 2 are currently leading in Msia)

just my 2 cents.




This post has been edited by locorocco: Apr 7 2008, 09:28 AM
locorocco
post Apr 15 2008, 10:28 PM

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makes you wonder why there isn't anyone from PWC making some noise in here
locorocco
post Apr 19 2008, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Johnathan Sia @ Apr 16 2008, 04:09 PM)
Lol... definitely longer than Sweetcat, Bank, Ceejay & drkmessenger put together  flex.gif (lol sound like old foggy). Anyway, I'm not that secretive, after all, I'm one of few people to actually use their name as their Lowyat ID.

Plan to do my best to use forums to help correct some wrong perceptions of D.
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I think you're either not from any of the D service lines or you're an under performer and no one wants to book you for a job.

So free to post in forums? Some more you're using your real name !!! haha laugh.gif




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