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 Standard SETUP.., Look @ this b4 u plan to setup ICE

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krayden
post Jul 24 2011, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jul 24 2011, 02:23 PM)
SUB:
MTX TR5512-44, DVC @ 4 ohms, power rating : 400W RMS, 800W peak.

Mean:- Each VC need 200w rms @ 200w rms x 2 = 400w rms, impedance (Ohm) will not effect sound reproduction by sub..

AMP 1 (MTX RT500D):
RMS Power @ 4 ohms = 1 x 250W
RMS Power @ 2 ohms = 1 x 500W @ 250w each VC

AMP 2 (MTX RT250D):
RMS Power @ 4 ohms = 1 x 125W
RMS Power @ 2 ohms = 1 x 250W @ 125w each VC

Above amp 1 & 2 can drive your sub without a problem coz each VC just need 200w rms.. Advantage between amp 1 vs 2, amp 1 required less current than amp 2 when play at lower freq...
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OSB: How is it that amp 2 will have enuf power?
When you say each VC needs 200w and amp 2 only gives out 125w to each VC?
Help me understand.

This post has been edited by krayden: Jul 24 2011, 06:07 PM
ILikePie
post Jul 24 2011, 09:44 PM

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HU : JVC KD-G395
Preamp : Audiobahn AEQ6J
Speakers : Either MTX TN693 or Soundstream SF-693T
Amp : MTX RT500D
Sub : MTX TR4512-44



Do these stuff mix well together? hmm.gif
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post Jul 25 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 24 2011, 06:06 PM)
OSB: How is it that amp 2 will have enuf power?
When you say each VC needs 200w and amp 2 only gives out 125w to each VC?
Help me understand.
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Generally Factory stated 200w is the max power handling... so 125w just less 75w or 5/8 pwr rate.or 62.5% where it within optimal zone (>60%-<80%) pwr required, >40%-<60% save zone & >90%->100% fall under danger zone.... In SQ, we are looking at soft & wide bass without left out deep & dynamic where the bass can easily blend together with mid bass/range... Harder/thumping bass would't give U sound musical at all & deep/dynamic doesn't mean harder/thumping & loud bass..


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post Jul 25 2011, 02:04 PM

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amp 1 will be enuff power (500W@2ohm) for either sub 1 (400W rms) or sub 2 (250W rms each).

go for amp 1 with sub 1 lah.....

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krayden
post Jul 25 2011, 04:54 PM

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OSB: He stated that the sub is 400w rms, not max.
so it should be each VC 200w rms.

Zenn: errr where got sub 2?
Oldskolboyz
post Jul 25 2011, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 25 2011, 04:54 PM)
OSB: He stated that the sub is 400w rms, not max.
so it should be each VC 200w rms.
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International standard practice, use max power handling to inform people from over power... especially in US, everything can sue, claim coz factory not stated properly. Big name like JL Audio also use it..

Can refer here, recommended amp pwr rms.... click at spec...

http://shop.mtx.com/p/l_126/MTX_Audio_TR55...er/listing.html

This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Jul 25 2011, 05:25 PM
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post Jul 25 2011, 07:09 PM

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actually the manufacture rated power are the power that the sub will be working efficiently. If going for SPL, amp power more than sub is a need, but if daily usage, minus 30% is ok. Depend on how you want the sub to work then select the amp will be more practical. if use really low power to feed the sub, might as well buy a cheaper sub....

400RMS sub will work as it is from 250-500 rms..anything below or exceed this range will kill the sub if you use it hard.

the RMS rating is the recommendation. Not a must to follow 100%. +-30% is safe :>

and for a sub to work nicely for lower freq below 50hz, u need at least 80% of the recommended power. the lower you gonna fetch, the more power you need. Underpowered sub tend to sound punchy while overpowered sub tend to sound boomy.


Added on July 25, 2011, 7:11 pmps, get kicker cvr from me if u wan loud sub tongue.gif

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krayden
post Jul 25 2011, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jul 25 2011, 05:18 PM)
International standard practice, use max power handling to inform people from over power... especially in US, everything can sue, claim coz factory not stated properly. Big name like JL Audio also use it..

Can refer here, recommended amp pwr rms.... click at spec...

http://shop.mtx.com/p/l_126/MTX_Audio_TR55...er/listing.html
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I think its just a diff in definition. Nvm la.
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post Jul 26 2011, 02:35 AM

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auxdio vs maximo which one btter?or got better model for component set?
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post Jul 26 2011, 02:52 AM

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both are brand or model?
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post Jul 26 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(mfcm @ Jul 26 2011, 02:35 AM)
auxdio vs maximo which one btter?or got better model for component set?
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What's your budget?
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post Jul 26 2011, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jul 26 2011, 02:52 AM)
both are brand or model?
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ops..auxdio vs morel

QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 26 2011, 11:15 AM)
What's your budget?
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erm how bout if let say worth money spend?
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post Jul 26 2011, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 25 2011, 04:54 PM)
OSB: He stated that the sub is 400w rms, not max.
so it should be each VC 200w rms.

Zenn: errr where got sub 2?
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gpt laa.. later he ask about another mtx SVC sub, he wants to use 2 units parallel


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QUOTE(mfcm @ Jul 26 2011, 02:35 AM)
auxdio vs maximo which one btter?or got better model for component set?
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never heard of auxdio, so id go for morel...

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post Jul 26 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(mfcm @ Jul 26 2011, 12:28 PM)
ops..auxdio vs morel
erm how bout if let say worth money spend?
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if he thinks 10k is "worth money spend", you also go 10k ya?
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post Jul 26 2011, 02:43 PM

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haha ive already think sum1 might said like that.got frens of mine last time setup 2k ICE can on par with 6k setup.coz im not familiar with ICe thats y askin u all.coz heard if bought good hardwares but not excelent tuning then no good la rite?myb i can minimize the scope for mid level setup?possible?or still need budget also?
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post Jul 26 2011, 06:13 PM

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Still need budget.
Your mid level might be 3k, mine might be 10k.
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post Jul 26 2011, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 26 2011, 06:13 PM)
Still need budget.
Your mid level might be 3k, mine might be 10k.
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laugh.gif ... suddenly you just revealed your mid level budget.
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jul 26 2011, 06:22 PM)
laugh.gif    ...  suddenly you just revealed your mid level budget.
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May I draw your attn to the word MIGHT. Just example mah taiko.
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post Jul 26 2011, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Jul 26 2011, 06:25 PM)
May I draw your attn to the word MIGHT. Just example mah taiko.
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based on your setup, mywifecar isnt that far off either brows.gif
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post Aug 20 2011, 07:11 PM

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HU > 4ch > comps + sub?

or

HU > (2ch > comps) + (2ch > sub)

Which setup more worth? hmm.gif

This post has been edited by ILikePie: Aug 20 2011, 07:11 PM

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