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Folding Bicycles v4 - Not only Folding Bikes, Folding bicycle discussion
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etigge
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Aug 30 2015, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Aug 30 2015, 01:40 PM) patches where to buy? not straight chg the tube meh? the patch is for what? Usually we carry only one spare inner tube but on unlucky days, one can experience 3 or more punctures in one ride. So, what do you do? We take out the patches and do the old fashion way lorr, we take out the tube and locate the puncture and patch it. In fact for bikes, especially those 6 or 7 speed bikes which don't have quick release, it's easier to patch than to change. Just pull out one side of the tire and pull out the inner tube and patch with the wheel still on the bike. Long time ago, nobody actually change tube, they patch. Bicycle shops of the olden days patches punctures rather than changing tube. Nowadays different loh! But still one needs to carry a patching kit, just in case. Can be bought in Ace hardwares or Daiso even. Off course local bike shops (LBS).
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desastar
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Aug 31 2015, 06:27 AM
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Aug 30 2015, 01:40 PM) patches where to buy? not straight chg the tube meh? the patch is for what? If you don't want to deal with punctures, get a good set of tyres. Definitely not those built for "speed" or light weight.
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Jay Chua CC
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Aug 31 2015, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(desastar @ Aug 31 2015, 06:27 AM) If you don't want to deal with punctures, get a good set of tyres. Definitely not those built for "speed" or light weight. aww. too bad my tyres are kojaks.
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klutzie21
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Sep 1 2015, 12:00 AM
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Hello everyone! Im a complete beginner here, but wanting to buy a preferably folding bikes just for the purpose of leisure/exercise only. I dont have much knowledge on the technical spec or the types//brand. So can any of you suggest the best bike with a good price below rm500? N also recommend the bike shop also. Tq in advance!
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frankie chin
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Sep 1 2015, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(denyhazrin @ Aug 30 2015, 03:04 PM) FINALLY.......VIGOR COME TO PAPA  Oh yeah Deny.....just manage to ride ard taman only...looking 4ward 4 more riding times.......n goin 4 upgrades soon as now busy w works..... Klu ada rezeki will hunt 4 1 more ...hehe
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etigge
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Sep 1 2015, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(klutzie21 @ Sep 1 2015, 12:00 AM) Hello everyone! Im a complete beginner here, but wanting to buy a preferably folding bikes just for the purpose of leisure/exercise only. I don't have much knowledge on the technical spec or the types//brand. So can any of you suggest the best bike with a good price below rm500? N also recommend the bike shop also. Tq in advance! Seems your budget a bit low actually to recommend a good one. You have 2 choices, One. You try looking for a good used one but nowadays , used ones are also over your budget. Even the entry level Dahon Route cost RM700 to RM800 for a used one and a Raleigh, the former owners wants RM600 to RM650 for it. Second choice is to get an Oscar Imagine. Maybe you can get it for less than RM500 from Kimbell Jaya. Get the aluminum models and don't get the steel model. It's a start and I am sure the bike will be enough to get your workout for the meantime.
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rkhairulrijal
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Sep 1 2015, 02:47 PM
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 Dragonback Puncak Alam
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walikard
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Sep 1 2015, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(rkhairulrijal @ Sep 1 2015, 02:47 PM)  Dragonback Puncak Alam Dragonback? Oh yes it is..sorry can't see the dragonback wording just now hehe...tough place but worth it...hilly ride This post has been edited by walikard: Sep 1 2015, 03:02 PM
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etigge
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Sep 1 2015, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(rkhairulrijal @ Sep 1 2015, 02:47 PM)  Dragonback Puncak Alam That's actually Jalan Paip near Kg.Budiman. Nice!  When I was still riding foldies, I always wanted to ride there but never did but when I switch to mountain bike, me and wife did ride there but in the palm oil plantations around there. Ironic huh? Actually joined the Bike Hash. You know somewhere there, atop a hill around some pineapple plantations ( Yes, there are pineapple plantation around there) there a shop or a 'warong' that serves fantastic pineapple juice.
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rkhairulrijal
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Sep 1 2015, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 1 2015, 05:31 PM) That's actually Jalan Paip near Kg.Budiman. Nice!  When I was still riding foldies, I always wanted to ride there but never did but when I switch to mountain bike, me and wife did ride there but in the palm oil plantations around there. Ironic huh? Actually joined the Bike Hash. You know somewhere there, atop a hill around some pineapple plantations ( Yes, there are pineapple plantation around there) there a shop or a 'warong' that serves fantastic pineapple juice.  Yeap. The warong u mentioned located on top of the hill kn? The infamous bukit ramlee route if am not mistaken. Ettige, which one more tougher, this route or perez-titi? I heard it is dragonback too?
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D3vilsim
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Sep 1 2015, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(frankie chin @ Aug 25 2015, 11:53 PM) Finally...drop by kimbell jaya to pick up my vigor n see2 look2 ard any racun bikes n stuff...jimmy told me they hv only 3 more units left n theres no more stock fr supplier till december...maybe then 2016 modeĺ....gosh... Saw a red speed 8 on display...much better than white n green.....but jetstream caught my attention but kena dig deep to my wallet .....so ....maybe next time...😆😆 Hi frankie chin & all, I currently doing folding bike research and come across this model Dahon Vigor P9. Online price around Rm2380 1. Is this bike worth to invest ? Good ? 2. Most of my friend are RB i got no choice to get fold. is this can at least not so hard to follow Rb speed ? 3. Any better offer than Rm2380 ? 4. Any other options within 3k ? 5. Anything i need to aware of this model or upgrade when purchase like disc brake or gear or speed upgrade to 18 or something ? Billion thanks for the help. This post has been edited by D3vilsim: Sep 1 2015, 09:22 PM
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etigge
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Sep 1 2015, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(rkhairulrijal @ Sep 1 2015, 06:03 PM) Yeap. The warong u mentioned located on top of the hill kn? The infamous bukit ramlee route if am not mistaken. Ettige, which one more tougher, this route or perez-titi? I heard it is dragonback too? I think Perez is tougher as it goes up and up and up and only return is down and down and then back to Sungai Lui another 10 km flats. Dragon backs are easier for me because if I don't brake going down, I can harness the energy to go up the next hill, at least half before I start to use energy to reach the apex and it goes on. Genting Sempah is steeper but shorter and it is also going up and up until the top. Master all these and Fraser's Hill is easy
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etigge
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Sep 1 2015, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(D3vilsim @ Sep 1 2015, 09:18 PM) Hi frankie chin & all, I currently doing folding bike research and come across this model Dahon Vigor P9. Online price around Rm2380 1. Is this bike worth to invest ? Good ? Dahon Vigor is the most popular foldie now because it is actually the same frame as their top model the Vector. The Vectors are 20 speed and 30 speed while the Vigor is 9 speed. Not that you can't change the groupsset later and match it up but it uses the same frame. If you can hit 30 km/h it is already a good speed but only if you lighten the bike a bit and change to slimmer tires. Usually 18 km/h to 24 km/h is foldies usual speed.
2. Most of my friend are RB i got no choice to get fold. is this can at least not so hard to follow Rb speed ? I doubt you can follow road bike pace because a road bike weighs 8 kgs (averagely) and some even sub 7kgs. Your Vigor is about 11 kgs. That alone is already a big disadvantage over road bikes. So you cannot compare. A revolution of the crank of the road bike is one and three quarter of a foldie ( 406mm for a 20 inch foldie against 622mm of the roadbike) and on flat roads that gives not much resistance, the disadvantage is huge. And on uphills, the lesser weight is already an advantage although smaller wheels rides uphill easier. Added with the 33 speed of the road bike, don't try to follow, you will get heart burned!
3. Any better offer than Rm2380 ? Give Kimbell Jaya a call, maybe Jimmy can give you a better deal. But I know there's only 2 left, maybe one as Frankie has taken one.
4. Any other options within 3k ? A Dahon Dash maybe.
5. Anything i need to aware of this model or upgrade when purchase like disc brake or gear or speed upgrade to 18 or something ? A better V-brake system like Shimano XT or Deore even would be a nice upgrade. Other than that, upgrade to a Vector P20 specs with 2 X 10 SRAM X5 groupset.
Billion thanks for the help.  This post has been edited by etigge: Sep 1 2015, 10:10 PM
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D3vilsim
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Sep 1 2015, 10:35 PM
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@etigge, Really thanks for your info !! looks like i shall stop survey and just grab this model.
Will it be a bit down side to have only 9 speed ? Should i look for more speed for around 3k+ since after the upgrade also about that range already.
other than dash , do you have other model in you mind for 3-4k with more speed and better handling like Vigor ? Dash is fast but the design and fold method like a bit....weird.
Thanks
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D3vilsim
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Sep 1 2015, 10:35 PM
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not sure why double post. how to delete ? This post has been edited by D3vilsim: Sep 1 2015, 10:36 PM
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etigge
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Sep 1 2015, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(D3vilsim @ Sep 1 2015, 10:35 PM) @etigge, Really thanks for your info !! looks like i shall stop survey and just grab this model. Will it be a bit down side to have only 9 speed ? Should i look for more speed for around 3k+ since after the upgrade also about that range already. other than dash , do you have other model in you mind for 3-4k with more speed and better handling like Vigor ? Dash is fast but the design and fold method like a bit....weird. Thanks A Dahon Vector P20 is about 6K if they import in. It's about USD1600. Look at the picture of the P20, see any difference apart from the gearings? Even the wheelset is almost the same and that's RM6000. If you get the Vigor for RM2.2K, add another 1K for modding to P20 specs, that's only 3.2K for a Vector P20. Almost 3K cheaper than one. Even a Dahon X27 or X30 is possible. The wheelset is only 1.5K extra.  This was mine until I sold it. Modded to the same specs as Vector P20 and even better with Deore brake levers and V-brakes. Also manage to get the extra front FD cable inside the tubing also.
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klutzie21
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Sep 1 2015, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 1 2015, 12:44 PM) Seems your budget a bit low actually to recommend a good one. You have 2 choices, One. You try looking for a good used one but nowadays , used ones are also over your budget. Even the entry level Dahon Route cost RM700 to RM800 for a used one and a Raleigh, the former owners wants RM600 to RM650 for it. Second choice is to get an Oscar Imagine. Maybe you can get it for less than RM500 from Kimbell Jaya. Get the aluminum models and don't get the steel model. It's a start and I am sure the bike will be enough to get your workout for the meantime.  Hi, thanks for the reply. Yup, my budget is a bit tight, im a student actually but i have been wanting to buy one so for a start mayb im gonna buy something affordable. I did survey for folding bikes online within my budget n found a few in lazada wirhin the range rm239 and above, with the specs being single speed or 6/7 speed. I also found one model, 21 speed mongoose bike at rm499. So would like to ask that in my case, do i really need to buy one with more speed since im just going to use it for leisure (for now)?
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D3vilsim
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Sep 1 2015, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 1 2015, 11:00 PM) A Dahon Vector P20 is about 6K if they import in. It's about USD1600. Look at the picture of the P20, see any difference apart from the gearings? Even the wheelset is almost the same and that's RM6000. If you get the Vigor for RM2.2K, add another 1K for modding to P20 specs, that's only 3.2K for a Vector P20. Almost 3K cheaper than one. Even a Dahon X27 or X30 is possible. The wheelset is only 1.5K extra. Wah seh brother !! this one really poison ler !! Do you mind to share the V brake and brake level model and price ? i will change the break system straight safety 1st and see got trade in or not. will upgrade later for P20 spec. if you dont mind pls share the parts model too if possible. thank you very much. What ride you upgraded to ?
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rkhairulrijal
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Sep 1 2015, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(etigge @ Sep 1 2015, 09:54 PM) I think Perez is tougher as it goes up and up and up and only return is down and down and then back to Sungai Lui another 10 km flats. Dragon backs are easier for me because if I don't brake going down, I can harness the energy to go up the next hill, at least half before I start to use energy to reach the apex and it goes on. Genting Sempah is steeper but shorter and it is also going up and up until the top. Master all these and Fraser's Hill is easy  Really huh...i used to do batu18-perez only. Scared to continue to Titi. Yeap..fraser hills is my target now
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PaulKong
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Sep 2 2015, 09:32 AM
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Hi guys, I come across this tube. I've ask the local seller but they don't have 20" tube. Do you guys have any contact to bring this in? Watch "FOSS TUBE: TEST AND INSTRUCTIONS" on YouTube - FOSS TUBE: TEST AND INSTRUCTIONS: https://youtu.be/kdm8M_yYE48
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