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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!

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Albert B
post Dec 7 2014, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(mynameisjude @ Dec 5 2014, 01:51 PM)
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Actually seller didn't specifically specified any side effect on using this . He just told me it is doable and plug and play item.
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I looked up on aftermarket camshafts and found that the specifications
are categorised into 5 choices according to driver's preference,
see table. Not sure how the local suppliers specify the camshafts.


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post Dec 7 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 6 2014, 01:02 AM)
when engine is idle, accelerate and aircond is ON the aircond belt emitted scratching sound. Izzit problem from bearing pulley ?
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Most of the time?

Or only during cold times?
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post Dec 7 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Dec 7 2014, 10:40 AM)
I looked up on aftermarket camshafts and found that the specifications
are categorised into 5 choices according to driver's preference,
see table. Not sure how the local suppliers specify the camshafts.
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Thank you again for the additional info thumbup.gif . Will likely refer to 4G1series in fb ; more traffic there.


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post Dec 7 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 7 2014, 01:08 PM)
Most of the time?

Or only during cold times?
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Most of the time. If driving in high speed or accelerate the sound become louder.
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 7 2014, 04:31 PM)
Most of the time. If driving in high speed or accelerate the sound become louder.
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1. It's the bearing that keeps tension on the belt, last time I kena also... RM 20 only for cheap brand and RM 40 for good one. (without upah pasang)

2. it could also be that your belt already makan...

all in all, parts only around RM 50. direct from spareparts shop. if you go workshop, sure the belt already RM 68... they want to untung also ma.. smile.gif
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Dec 8 2014, 12:01 PM)
1. It's the bearing that keeps tension on the belt, last time I kena also... RM 20 only for cheap brand and RM 40 for good one. (without upah pasang)

2. it could also be that your belt already makan...

all in all, parts only around RM 50. direct from spareparts shop. if you go workshop, sure the belt already RM 68... they want to untung also ma.. smile.gif
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1. the name of the parts? i scare to mistakenly spell it. tongue.gif

2. for the belt, i just changed to the new one last 2 weeks.
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(mynameisjude @ Dec 7 2014, 02:51 PM)
Thank you again for the additional info thumbup.gif . Will likely refer to 4G1series in fb ; more traffic there.
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I have tried Jasma one, Pipercam one, before finally settling on a custom matspeed one. Overall jasma and pipe not much difference, piper feels better at higher rpm but jasma has better midrange power. But different intake and exhaust setup will yield different results.

No harm trying the jasma one. Get an adjustable pulley and advance slightly.. definitely can feel difference over stock cam.
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post Dec 8 2014, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 8 2014, 12:05 PM)
1. the name of the parts? i scare to mistakenly spell it.  tongue.gif

2. for the belt, i just changed to the new one last 2 weeks.
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good question, I don't remember... but it's a bearing on it's own (you can see it clearly) hanging out on a piece of metal stick which is adjustable for the belt tensioning.

looks like this (the shiny metal piece), but note this is for the new saga blm, not the old one... but the sit at the same place.

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post Dec 8 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Dec 8 2014, 01:32 PM)
good question, I don't remember... but it's a bearing on it's own (you can see it clearly) hanging out on a piece of metal stick which is adjustable for the belt tensioning.

looks like this (the shiny metal piece), but note this is for the new saga blm, not the old one... but the sit at the same place.

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yes. the sound came from that bearing that you shown. Are you sure the price is around RM50?

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post Dec 8 2014, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Dec 8 2014, 01:32 PM)
good question, I don't remember... but it's a bearing on it's own (you can see it clearly) hanging out on a piece of metal stick which is adjustable for the belt tensioning.

looks like this (the shiny metal piece), but note this is for the new saga blm, not the old one... but the sit at the same place.

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"V belt tensioner assembly"," V belt tensioner pulley "...


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post Dec 9 2014, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 8 2014, 04:12 PM)
yes. the sound came from that bearing that you shown. Are you sure the price is around RM50?
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RM 20 china, RM 40 japan. Installation RM 10. last I fix that for my Old Saga Megavalve was about 1 year ++ ago.

btw, which saga you using?

QUOTE(Albert B @ Dec 8 2014, 04:36 PM)
"V belt tensioner assembly"," V belt tensioner pulley "...
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for BLM correct naming, for Old Saga they just call belt tensioner bearing
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post Dec 9 2014, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(mynameisjude @ Dec 5 2014, 12:31 AM)
                                    Jasma Cam 270 intake ; 275 exhaust
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i wouldnt bother with anything jasma
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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 6 2014, 01:02 AM)
when engine is idle, accelerate and aircond is ON the aircond belt emitted scratching sound. Izzit problem from bearing pulley ?
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is the belt tensioner giving the belt proper tension so it doesn't slack/slip?
how old is the belt and/or if it is having cracking conditions?

consider trying some candle wax on the air cond belt to recondition it which helps a little
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post Dec 9 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Dec 9 2014, 01:02 AM)
RM 20 china, RM 40 japan. Installation RM 10. last I fix that for my Old Saga Megavalve was about 1 year ++ ago.

btw, which saga you using?
for BLM correct naming, for Old Saga they just call belt tensioner bearing
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1999 Saga Iswara.
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post Dec 9 2014, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 9 2014, 03:01 AM)
is the belt tensioner giving the belt proper tension so it doesn't slack/slip?
how old is the belt and/or if it is having cracking conditions?

consider trying some candle wax on the air cond belt to recondition it which helps a little
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no problem for the belt because i just replaced it last 2 weeks.

i will try to use candle wax first. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 9 2014, 10:34 AM)
1999 Saga Iswara.
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ok, then same price. any other price than that... means you kena kencing. whistling.gif
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Dec 9 2014, 11:04 AM)
ok, then same price. any other price than that... means you kena kencing.  whistling.gif
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i will try not to kena kencing rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 9 2014, 11:33 AM)
i will try not to kena kencing  rclxm9.gif
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try to find original part if available.

a LOT more expensive, however can save you a lot of trouble/time consumption if you got lemons (which is drastically reduced for original parts compared to aftermarket parts)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 9 2014, 11:42 AM)
try to find original part if available.

a LOT more expensive, however can save you a lot of trouble/time consumption if you got lemons (which is drastically reduced for original parts compared to aftermarket parts)
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True, but sadly a lot of original packing nowadays which are cloned parts...

I would normally ask for Mitsubishi or High Quality Made in Japan parts rather than China/Taiwan/OEM (not because they are not good, but afraid to kena clone).

Unless you go get directly at Proton Parts Glenmarie. then sure 100% original.
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Dec 9 2014, 01:04 PM)
True, but sadly a lot of original packing nowadays which are cloned parts...

I would normally ask for Mitsubishi or High Quality Made in Japan parts rather than China/Taiwan/OEM (not because they are not good, but afraid to kena clone).

Unless you go get directly at Proton Parts Glenmarie. then sure 100% original.
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agreed. i bought oil filter for RM6 each. izzit non genuine oil filter?

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