QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Mar 14 2015, 01:14 AM)
That's the plan but how are they going to execute it with the market in this condition?This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 14 2015, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 14 2015, 01:20 AM) A three-week decline is a strange definition of improving I'm referring to the overall US economy not just the equities. It's still relatively rosy compared to the other place. Low oil prices are good for their economy. |
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Mar 14 2015, 01:28 AM) I'm referring to the overall US economy not just the equities. It's still relatively rosy compared to the other place. Low oil prices are good for their economy. Well equities are the economy right? If equities are down and the economy is up, shouldnt people be buying equities right now? It seems that way to me. |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 14 2015, 01:33 AM) Well equities are the economy right? If equities are down and the economy is up, shouldnt people be buying equities right now? It seems that way to me. no, equities are not really the economy anymore, they're forward looking. The various QEs made sure that there was more money than anyone would dare to use. So since the banks are unable to lend out, they put into equities. |
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Mar 14 2015, 01:41 AM) no, equities are not really the economy anymore, they're forward looking. The various QEs made sure that there was more money than anyone would dare to use. So since the banks are unable to lend out, they put into equities. OK so the market is going to continue to tank while the economy improves? But then people will have a lot of money with no place to put it. |
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wow, oil crashing....$40 coming? This post has been edited by yok70: Mar 14 2015, 02:11 AM |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 13 2015, 09:57 PM) If 1 USD=RM 3.8, then it is back to pegged value (10 years ago). More inflows into the country as local currency despreciates, while local ppls might hold/stop travelling overseasOne round trip. If it goes down further... 1 USD to RM 4.00 or higher ( with present exchg rate. |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 13 2015, 09:57 PM) If 1 USD=RM 3.8, then it is back to pegged value (10 years ago). Dan you hv just reminded me of my most painful years.One round trip. If it goes down further... 1 USD to RM 4.00 or higher ( things were crumpling, everything seemed worth nothing during our historic selective capital controls. Damn, I thot i hv forgotten those years. If rm hits 4.0 i just cant imagine what could be the impact. dont think i can last another round of 'crisis' ? This post has been edited by mikehwy: Mar 14 2015, 09:06 AM |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 14 2015, 11:01 AM) Well unemployment rate is dropping, wages are going up, people will soon be rich again. And then interest rates will go up, which will make them richer. Interest rates affect cost of borrowing and doing business. Again, if Yellen pulls the trigger too early, the whole thing could potentially grind to a halt. That has happened before. Chances are the US will want to make hay while the sun shines and delay the rate hike a bit. |
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 14 2015, 09:05 AM) Dan you hv just reminded me of my most painful years. Don't worry. If you're like me, you've been through tough times. things were crumpling, everything seemed worth nothing during our historic selective capital controls. Damn, I thot i hv forgotten those years. If rm hits 4.0 i just cant imagine what could be the impact. dont think i can last another round of 'crisis' ? The second round, you will know what to do and be more prepared. In '97 after the crisis, I left M'sia and went over S'pore. Even S'pore not immune. 2 1/2 years later, dot com bubble hit US and it hit S'pore even worse than Malaysia '97 crisis. I was devasted. Lost my apartment, car and everything. Left S'pore to USA to start over. In '08 financial crisis hits USA, I was better prepared. Maintained my portfolio well, and I was able to get thru it. When it recovers later, my net worth grew 3x times over when everyone was still suffering. If another big one hit M'sia (the signs are here...) just get ready to tough it out. You should be hardened by now. Opportunities are also here. |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 14 2015, 11:06 AM) Don't worry. If you're like me, you've been through tough times. If you lost everything how did you have the money to move? If you are declared a bankrupt you have to return to your home country and are forbidden to travel out of it right?The second round, you will know what to do and be more prepared. In '97 after the crisis, I left M'sia and went over S'pore. Even S'pore not immune. 2 1/2 years later, dot com bubble hit US and it hit S'pore even worse than Malaysia '97 crisis. I was devasted. Lost my apartment, car and everything. Left S'pore to USA to start over. In '08 financial crisis hits USA, I was better prepared. Maintained my portfolio well, and I was able to get thru it. When it recovers later, my net worth grew 3x times over when everyone was still suffering. If another big one hit M'sia (the signs are here...) just get ready to tough it out. You should be hardened by now. Opportunities are also here. This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 14 2015, 11:15 AM |
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Mar 14 2015, 11:05 AM) i think so too. while yellen/fed maintains their hawkish stance, they r not stupid not to see what other nations r doing to their rates n currencies now. likely they will take their time to hike rate since other nations may already be doing the job for them!QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 14 2015, 09:05 AM) If rm hits 4.0 i just cant imagine what could be the impact. dont think i can last another round of 'crisis' ? QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 14 2015, 11:06 AM) yep, the old gets wiser. at this time, indications r the usd trend will continue given europe only just started a massive qe program and all commodity prices - from oil to gold to sugar - continue to slump to multi yr lows. all emerging markets and commodity exporting nations are pretty helpless as this time. what is scary is if and when china do a massive qe too! it's currency wars at work. |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Mar 14 2015, 11:14 AM) If you lost everything how did you have the money to move? If you are declared a bankrupt you have to return to your home country and are forbidden to travel out of it right? No, I was not bankrupt but my bank account down to a few hundred after I paid all my creditors. My dad (bless his heart) helped me to get started again with his emergency fund and one way ticket to US. |
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Mar 14 2015, 11:28 AM) No, I was not bankrupt but my bank account down to a few hundred after I paid all my creditors. You had nice parents My dad (bless his heart) helped me to get started again with his emergency fund and one way ticket to US. This post has been edited by wodenus: Mar 14 2015, 11:34 AM |
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