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pigscanfly
post Jul 29 2020, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 7 2020, 01:04 PM)
Depends on what you want.
I use interactive broker white labels (Tradestation global)
It's interface is complicated but it gives me access to majority of the world's market which I need.

One alternative is trading212. Only issue you need to think is how to put in money and withdraw money. If you banks you going to get charged a lot.
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I noticed that trading212 has zero commission fees and zero inactivity fees. This sounds good to me, as my trading frequency is < 1x per month. I wouldn't want to get charged with inactivity fees.

Do you think funding the trading account using Transferwise borderless account works?

Edit: I just checked, Transferwise borderless account not offered to Malaysians cry.gif

This post has been edited by pigscanfly: Jul 30 2020, 12:28 AM
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post Jul 29 2020, 11:29 PM

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Small cap etf vs big cap etf. Which is more superior?

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post Jul 29 2020, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(freshgraduate2020 @ Jul 29 2020, 11:29 PM)
Small cap etf vs big cap etf. Which is more superior?
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Small caps are deemed to be higher risk but higher return

Example: You can invest in either Maybank (large cap) or Bank Rakyat (small cap)

Note: It's just an example because Bank Rakyat is not listed
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post Jul 30 2020, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Onelegkick80 @ Jul 16 2020, 11:26 PM)
Thanks for your reply Ozak.
I mean the US bursa. Oh when I called CS, they told me there is a 0.6% charge on sell which is charged by the exchange. 0.06 cents per sell is charged by the exchange? then I guess CS would be a much better choice than maybank. In comparison, maybank will charge 0.4% per transaction but for CS only sell there’a a charge of 0.06 cents. Is this a correct conclusion?
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0.6% is too high.

This is the fee & commission CS charge me for each sell.

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post Jul 30 2020, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(pigscanfly @ Jul 29 2020, 11:24 PM)
I noticed that trading212 has zero commission fees and zero inactivity fees. This sounds good to me, as my trading frequency is < 1x per month. I wouldn't want to get charged with inactivity fees.

Do you think funding the trading account using Transferwise borderless account works?

Edit: I just checked, Transferwise borderless account not offered to Malaysians cry.gif
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interested to learn more about the transferring funds mechanism to trading212 too.
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post Jul 30 2020, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(pigscanfly @ Jul 29 2020, 11:24 PM)
I noticed that trading212 has zero commission fees and zero inactivity fees. This sounds good to me, as my trading frequency is < 1x per month. I wouldn't want to get charged with inactivity fees.

Do you think funding the trading account using Transferwise borderless account works?

Edit: I just checked, Transferwise borderless account not offered to Malaysians cry.gif
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Can. Before this they block. Then then unblock it (TransferWise).

My borderless account was opened before the blocking started.
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post Jul 31 2020, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 30 2020, 04:40 PM)
Can. Before this they block. Then then unblock it (TransferWise).

My borderless account was opened before the blocking started.
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Lucky you. You managed to open a borderless account before they blocked it. Currently, I am not successful in opening a borderless account. I get this message "This feature isn't available in your location yet".

I can't think of anyway to get a borderless account. I have considered putting my location as Singapore, but it won't work, because address verification will be required.


QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Jul 30 2020, 10:42 AM)
interested to learn more about the transferring funds mechanism to trading212 too.
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You can try funding your trading account using credit/debit card. Try BigPay, which charges 0% conversion fees. If you have a Transferwise debit card, that works great too.
However, withdrawal can be a headache.

From trading212 FAQ:
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For security reasons, we will send your withdrawn funds using the same payment methods you have used for funding your account. If you have funded your account using:
    Bank transfer - We will return your funds to your bank account
    Debit/Credit card - We will refund the money to your card.


If you deposited funds using BigPay, and when withdrawing funds (trading212 will refund into BigPay debit card), money will automatically be converted back to MYR!! BigPay isn't a multi-currency account and cannot hold foreign currencies. It's a debit card denominated in MYR currency. And withdrawing money from BigPay is very costly and restrictive! ranting.gif

If you deposited money using Transferwise debit card (not available to Malaysians), money will be refunded into your Transferwise borderless account. Because Transferwise debit card is a multi-currency account, your money will be refunded in the same foreign currency (limited to USD, GBP, EUR, SGD and a few others)
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QUOTE(pigscanfly @ Jul 31 2020, 12:01 AM)
Lucky you. You managed to open a borderless account before they blocked it. Currently, I am not successful in opening a borderless account. I get this message "This feature isn't available in your location yet".

I can't think of anyway to get a borderless account. I have considered putting my location as Singapore, but it won't work, because address verification will be required.
You can try funding your trading account using credit/debit card. Try BigPay, which charges 0% conversion fees. If you have a Transferwise debit card, that works great too.
However, withdrawal can be a headache.

From trading212 FAQ:
If you deposited funds using BigPay, and when withdrawing funds (trading212 will refund into BigPay debit card), money will automatically be converted back to MYR!! BigPay isn't a multi-currency account and cannot hold foreign currencies. It's a debit card denominated in MYR currency. And withdrawing money from BigPay is very costly and restrictive! ranting.gif

If you deposited money using Transferwise debit card (not available to Malaysians), money will be refunded into your Transferwise borderless account. Because Transferwise debit card is a multi-currency account, your money will be refunded in the same foreign currency (limited to USD, GBP, EUR, SGD and a few others)
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Email and asked if you can open a borderless account.
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post Jul 31 2020, 05:03 AM

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Does the IB has the discretion to declare the dividend (if any) they received from invest in ETF? Meaning we as investor may receive less than 70%-80% dividend from the shares underlying the ETF.

Considering the costs (trading cost and currency rate) is it wise to invest in Malaysia denominated ETF like TradePlus Asia Reit and Wahed as compare to invest using foreign brokerage and individual foreign stock? Let say I have an amount of money to invest, how much I can use to buy the ETF considering the return at the end is same (hold for long term and to increase the portfolio volume for now). Malaysia can buy more lot, China/HK may able to buy more lot and less lot for US. So the lot size (portfolio size) will determine the return when collecting dividend (if any and after withholding taz-if any) and sell it at profit,

My aim is to diversified my portfolio while cost saving. Not a pro investor so consider passive. Mutual fund fees are too high so I will not consider. The return for ETF is not static or always positive based on my experience in the 2 ETF I am holding so dividend is the only return while holding it and the price difference when sell it.

Am I thinking logically and hope to get advise/opinion from you guy as Sifu.
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QUOTE(pigscanfly @ Jul 31 2020, 12:01 AM)
Lucky you. You managed to open a borderless account before they blocked it. Currently, I am not successful in opening a borderless account. I get this message "This feature isn't available in your location yet".

I can't think of anyway to get a borderless account. I have considered putting my location as Singapore, but it won't work, because address verification will be required.
You can try funding your trading account using credit/debit card. Try BigPay, which charges 0% conversion fees. If you have a Transferwise debit card, that works great too.
However, withdrawal can be a headache.

From trading212 FAQ:
If you deposited funds using BigPay, and when withdrawing funds (trading212 will refund into BigPay debit card), money will automatically be converted back to MYR!! BigPay isn't a multi-currency account and cannot hold foreign currencies. It's a debit card denominated in MYR currency. And withdrawing money from BigPay is very costly and restrictive! ranting.gif

If you deposited money using Transferwise debit card (not available to Malaysians), money will be refunded into your Transferwise borderless account. Because Transferwise debit card is a multi-currency account, your money will be refunded in the same foreign currency (limited to USD, GBP, EUR, SGD and a few others)
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Just wondering
If i have a rhb multi currency account

Can I convert MYR to USD using bigpay/TransferWise then transfer the USD to the rhb multi currency account and then transfer the USD to tranding212?
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post Aug 26 2020, 01:48 PM

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Any ETFs for short dow jones's market?
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post Aug 26 2020, 04:23 PM

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Anyone have the step of open account IBKR?

I heard that IBKR must trade few transactions every month if not it will charge USD1 per month?

Then normal broker like maybank is USD25, altough expensive but they solve all problem to us such like withdraw money or write letter.

Do you all still more prefer open account IBKR?


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post Aug 26 2020, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(edwin1002 @ Aug 26 2020, 04:23 PM)
Anyone have the step of open account IBKR?

I heard that IBKR must trade few transactions every month if not it will charge USD1 per month?

Then normal broker like maybank is USD25, altough expensive but they solve all problem to us such like withdraw money or write letter.

Do you all still more prefer open account IBKR?
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It's USD10 per month minimum (reduced by commissions) if you put in more money, this monthly fee is waived.

If you don't want this monthly charge, you can register under for IBKR under Tradestation Global. This one no monthly fee but there's a fall below fee if balance <$1000
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 13 2020, 10:35 AM)
I invested in Vanguard Extended Duration Treasury ETF (EDV) as it perform better during downturn
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This is short market? have u got listing of short etf for their market?
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post Aug 29 2020, 09:42 PM

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If I opened an account with TS Global, can I make trades on IBKR Client Portal? I find the user interface of the TS Global desktop app very non-user friendly. If I trade using IBKR Client Portal, the commission fees will be charged according to TS Global?
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post Aug 29 2020, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(pigscanfly @ Aug 29 2020, 09:42 PM)
If I opened an account with TS Global, can I make trades on IBKR Client Portal? I find the user interface of the TS Global desktop app very non-user friendly. If I trade using IBKR Client Portal, the commission fees will be charged according to TS Global?
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Yes for both questions
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post Aug 31 2020, 03:49 PM

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anyone from Tradestation try fraction trading on IB?

I can't find the fraction trading under trading experience and permissions, dunno is it before my account is not directly under IB
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post Aug 31 2020, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Chounz @ Aug 31 2020, 03:49 PM)
anyone from Tradestation try fraction trading on IB?

I can't find the fraction trading under trading experience and permissions, dunno is it before my account is not directly under IB
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Fractional shares only available under pure IB.
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post Aug 31 2020, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Aug 31 2020, 03:58 PM)
Fractional shares only available under pure IB.
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i see, thank for the info。
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Hey guys. I am planning to invest more than 1 million in ETF (50% bond ETF and 50% stocks) in the future.

The ETF I would like the replicate Vanguard Lifestratrgy mutual fund with 50% equities and 50% bonds to get an average of 5-6% return with low volatility.

Is it Ok to use bank like CIMB, UOB, HongLeong, OCBC broker to buy ETF? I feel safer and its easier to convince my parents to invest with a bank broker than IB or Trading212.

I know bank is notorious for its high commission so i am wondering which bank broker should i go for to make low-cost indexing work?


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