QUOTE(dudewhatisthis @ Sep 19 2020, 08:27 PM)
Your answer can be found in this thread.All about ETFs / Foreign Brokers, Exchange traded funds
All about ETFs / Foreign Brokers, Exchange traded funds
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Sep 19 2020, 09:34 PM
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Sep 20 2020, 07:27 PM
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Is there any web site that can alert us if an ETF that we're monitoring has dropped/gone up certain %?
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Sep 21 2020, 04:29 PM
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Anyone using fsmone singapore? What is the cheapest way to transfer money to fsmone singapore?
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Sep 21 2020, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(JJkian @ Sep 21 2020, 04:29 PM) cheapest = exchange with ur sg working friendsecond way: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4857608 access bigpay, instarem, transferwise, sunway money, key in the amount you want to transfer, see how much u will get in SGD, then that's the cheapest. AFAIK should be sunway money cheapest |
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Sep 24 2020, 10:25 PM
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Has anyone have any reviews of this particular ETF for the S&P500?
ETF code: VUSA Fund Manager: Vanguard Stock exchange: LSE https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/investme...buting/overview I "hoot" this one coz it was the most popular ETF with my brokerage. Is it a good non-US one? Tracking error how compared to the US variants? |
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Sep 24 2020, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 24 2020, 10:25 PM) Has anyone have any reviews of this particular ETF for the S&P500? Have you checked out the Accumulating option VUAA? ETF code: VUSA Fund Manager: Vanguard Stock exchange: LSE https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/investme...buting/overview I "hoot" this one coz it was the most popular ETF with my brokerage. Is it a good non-US one? Tracking error how compared to the US variants? I have been tackling this for some time too. But due to Brexit, not sure how UCITS regulation will be affected. Things are a bit fluid for the UK now. |
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Sep 24 2020, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 24 2020, 10:29 PM) Have you checked out the Accumulating option VUAA? Not yet. But what's "accumulating option" mean ah?I have been tackling this for some time too. But due to Brexit, not sure how UCITS regulation will be affected. Things are a bit fluid for the UK now. It sure looks alright. Not too different from VUSA apart from the USD currency |
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Sep 24 2020, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 24 2020, 10:33 PM) Not yet. But what's "accumulating option" mean ah? Accumulating option means all dividends are automatically reinvested for you, just like mutual funds offered by eUT/FSM in Malaysia pay you dividend, but FSM/eUT reinvests the dividends automatically, so lower NAV but more units in the end. It sure looks alright. Not too different from VUSA apart from the USD currency In their case, the Acc option will mean no distribution is made at all, so the NAV just goes up as usual. I personally prefer ACC over Distribution since if the fund is losing money it can theoretically still pays out dividend, which comes from your original capital. So, say you invested 100 dollars, fund loses 10% and investment value drops to 90 dollars but they can still pay out say 10 dollars of dividend for you which means you now get 10 dollars but the NAV per unit drops as well resulting in you having 80 dollars invested plus 10 dollars cash. You end up "investing less". Of course this don't happen often if the fund and its underlying securities do well, especially in the long run, but some investors who don't know this are fooled by mutual funds (especially the ones offered by the 2 "chinese" banks in Malaysia. You know which two I am talking about. Some even tell me the commission I pay them goes into the fund to "buy during the dip". That said, if funds have ACC option or have features that automatically reinvest dividends, you are good to proceed and all that is left is for you to check your risk profile, underlying securities prospects, all kinds of analysis etc,, all the usual homework stuffs every investor does. This post has been edited by TOS: Sep 24 2020, 10:48 PM |
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Sep 24 2020, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 24 2020, 10:44 PM) Of course this don't happen often if the fund and its underlying securities do well, especially in the long run, but some investors who don't know this are fooled by mutual funds (especially the ones offered by the 2 "chinese" banks in Malaysia. You know which two I am talking about. Yeah investing in those crap mutual funds for poor returns is stupid.Some even tell me the commission I pay them goes into the fund to "buy during the dip". The fees they charge p.a. is super high for the poor performance. Only reason to invest in those is to obtain tax relief/rebate (if applicable). After getting the tax advantage, fast fast try to withdraw |
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Sep 24 2020, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Sep 24 2020, 10:44 PM) Accumulating option means all dividends are automatically reinvested for you, just like mutual funds offered by eUT/FSM in Malaysia pay you dividend, but FSM/eUT reinvests the dividends automatically, so lower NAV but more units in the end. I see. I thought pretty much all ETFs will reinvest the dividend for you. Or at least, even if they don't, you can do it yourself.In their case, the Acc option will mean no distribution is made at all, so the NAV just goes up as usual. I personally prefer ACC over Distribution since if the fund is losing money it can theoretically still pays out dividend, which comes from your original capital. So, say you invested 100 dollars, fund loses 10% and investment value drops to 90 dollars but they can still pay out say 10 dollars of dividend for you which means you now get 10 dollars but the NAV per unit drops as well resulting in you having 80 dollars invested plus 10 dollars cash. You end up "investing less". Of course this don't happen often if the fund and its underlying securities do well, especially in the long run, but some investors who don't know this are fooled by mutual funds (especially the ones offered by the 2 "chinese" banks in Malaysia. You know which two I am talking about. Some even tell me the commission I pay them goes into the fund to "buy during the dip". That said, if funds have ACC option or have features that automatically reinvest dividends, you are good to proceed and all that is left is for you to check your risk profile, underlying securities prospects, all kinds of analysis etc,, all the usual homework stuffs every investor does. Seems pretty decent and I can't tell this part from VUSA kek. I'm basically investing my leftover GBP into S&P500 and won't think about it for the next 5 years For mutual funds, I know what you mean. A yellow color bank also tried doing the same for me for some kind tech fund. But the fund even underperform to their own benchmark kek, which was some MSCI Tech index. No need to pay commission to these buggers when I ownself can hoot something that can perform just as well as their fund at a much lower cost |
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Sep 25 2020, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 24 2020, 11:27 PM) I see. I thought pretty much all ETFs will reinvest the dividend for you. Or at least, even if they don't, you can do it yourself. Why u pay fee to SA since u can buy ur ownSeems pretty decent and I can't tell this part from VUSA kek. I'm basically investing my leftover GBP into S&P500 and won't think about it for the next 5 years For mutual funds, I know what you mean. A yellow color bank also tried doing the same for me for some kind tech fund. But the fund even underperform to their own benchmark kek, which was some MSCI Tech index. No need to pay commission to these buggers when I ownself can hoot something that can perform just as well as their fund at a much lower cost |
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Sep 25 2020, 08:46 AM
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Sep 26 2020, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 24 2020, 11:27 PM) I see. I thought pretty much all ETFs will reinvest the dividend for you. Or at least, even if they don't, you can do it yourself. Hi Seems pretty decent and I can't tell this part from VUSA kek. I'm basically investing my leftover GBP into S&P500 and won't think about it for the next 5 years For mutual funds, I know what you mean. A yellow color bank also tried doing the same for me for some kind tech fund. But the fund even underperform to their own benchmark kek, which was some MSCI Tech index. No need to pay commission to these buggers when I ownself can hoot something that can perform just as well as their fund at a much lower cost as for stocks, i just started, been wanting to do so for long time d, but dont have the way to invest. now i found one, and started investing - rakuten. then i found FSM one singapore (for US market mostly), but only applying. hopefully they approve my application.. i dont wan to stuck in mutual funds with FSM one Malaysia. the issue for FSM Singapore is that i am not sure the best way to top up money into my account, since i dont have a Singapore bank account. hope i can top up directly to my account via TT or wire transfer. methods from pervious replies seems .. not so clear, bcos i never used those methods before (sunway money, bigpay and etc). will try and see after FSM approve my application. OR someone here can explain abit on how those methods mentioned works. This post has been edited by Shynn: Sep 26 2020, 12:42 PM |
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Sep 26 2020, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(Eurobeater @ Sep 24 2020, 10:25 PM) Has anyone have any reviews of this particular ETF for the S&P500? I personally buy VUSD. Same from Vanguard and LSE but USD-denominated Distributing. VUSA is Pound Sterling Distributing. ETF code: VUSA Fund Manager: Vanguard Stock exchange: LSE https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/investme...buting/overview I "hoot" this one coz it was the most popular ETF with my brokerage. Is it a good non-US one? Tracking error how compared to the US variants? And like TOS i prefer to get my USD dividend so that I can choose where i want to invest it. ETF fees very cheap on LSE anyway so I prefer the flexibility than having it "accumulate" This post has been edited by zenquix: Sep 26 2020, 04:01 PM |
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Sep 26 2020, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 26 2020, 04:00 PM) I personally buy VUSD. Same from Vanguard and LSE but USD-denominated Distributing. VUSA is Pound Sterling Distributing. Er, I think you mean "unlike" instead of "like". And like TOS i prefer to get my USD dividend so that I can choose where i want to invest it. ETF fees very cheap on LSE anyway so I prefer the flexibility than having it "accumulate" As said before, the fund can still be distributing dividend even though it's losing money, so accumulation works for me best (Of course, provided that I have faith in the fund in the long run.) That said, even with ACC fund, you can still withdraw anytime you like. So, I still prefer ACC over DIST, to prevent "evil" UT providers not reinvesting "dividends" automatically for me and save me the grunt work of having to monitor such small and insignificant matter. Other investors may have their own preference. It differs from person to person. |
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Sep 26 2020, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 26 2020, 04:00 PM) I personally buy VUSD. Same from Vanguard and LSE but USD-denominated Distributing. VUSA is Pound Sterling Distributing. Never came across a US ETF listed in another exchange that pays in other currencies than USD.And like TOS i prefer to get my USD dividend so that I can choose where i want to invest it. ETF fees very cheap on LSE anyway so I prefer the flexibility than having it "accumulate" Even EQQQ pays dividends in USD. This post has been edited by Yggdrasil: Sep 26 2020, 05:50 PM |
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Sep 26 2020, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(Shynn @ Sep 26 2020, 12:41 PM) Hi That was the exact fund that yellow bank recommend lol. as for stocks, i just started, been wanting to do so for long time d, but dont have the way to invest. now i found one, and started investing - rakuten. then i found FSM one singapore (for US market mostly), but only applying. hopefully they approve my application.. i dont wan to stuck in mutual funds with FSM one Malaysia. the issue for FSM Singapore is that i am not sure the best way to top up money into my account, since i dont have a Singapore bank account. hope i can top up directly to my account via TT or wire transfer. methods from pervious replies seems .. not so clear, bcos i never used those methods before (sunway money, bigpay and etc). will try and see after FSM approve my application. OR someone here can explain abit on how those methods mentioned works. Thanks, but no thanks. I tend to avoid actively managed funds now as much as possible, particularly those in the US market. ETFs all the way since no need to pay any management fees or sales charges. Market returns good enough for me QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 26 2020, 04:00 PM) I personally buy VUSD. Same from Vanguard and LSE but USD-denominated Distributing. VUSA is Pound Sterling Distributing. I see. Well, I went for VUSA since it was listed as the most popular ETF with my broker. I regret not going a USD acc now And like TOS i prefer to get my USD dividend so that I can choose where i want to invest it. ETF fees very cheap on LSE anyway so I prefer the flexibility than having it "accumulate" This post has been edited by Eurobeater: Sep 26 2020, 07:20 PM |
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Sep 26 2020, 09:22 PM
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I chose vusd instead of vusa because:
1) higher volume 2) lower bid/ask spread 3) in USD I prefer an etf with acc instead of distributing, in usd, sufficiently traded and irish domiciled but cant seem to find one yet. For world index/developed mkt my ideal ticker is IWDA. This post has been edited by 126126: Sep 26 2020, 09:28 PM |
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Sep 27 2020, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(126126 @ Sep 26 2020, 09:22 PM) I chose vusd instead of vusa because: then check out the mentioned VUAA1) higher volume 2) lower bid/ask spread 3) in USD I prefer an etf with acc instead of distributing, in usd, sufficiently traded and irish domiciled but cant seem to find one yet. For world index/developed mkt my ideal ticker is IWDA. https://www.justetf.com/en/etf-profile.html...in=IE00BFMXXD54 it is USD denominated on LSE, tracking S&P500 For IWDA (Acc) look at IWDA on LSE (note the high expense ratio though) https://www.justetf.com/en/etf-profile.html...in=IE00B4L5Y983 https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IWDA.L?p=IW...&.tsrc=fin-srch This post has been edited by zenquix: Sep 27 2020, 09:50 AM |
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Sep 27 2020, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Sep 27 2020, 09:44 AM) then check out the mentioned VUAA Thanks for this, unfortunately the volume is too thin, which will also mean the bid/Ask spread will be High.https://www.justetf.com/en/etf-profile.html...in=IE00BFMXXD54 it is USD denominated on LSE, tracking S&P500 For IWDA (Acc) look at IWDA on LSE https://www.justetf.com/en/etf-profile.html...in=IE00B4L5Y983 https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IWDA.L?p=IW...&.tsrc=fin-srch |
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