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post Jul 4 2020, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Onelegkick80 @ Jul 3 2020, 11:59 PM)
Hello, may I know if anyone here signed up for a Charles Schwab account? Are all US ETFs indeed commission free or only applicable for Schwab issued ETFs? Thanks.
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I m using CS.

Buy is a free commission. Sell is charge at 0.06.
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post Jul 4 2020, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 4 2020, 12:50 PM)
Avoid FSM for US stocks.
Use interactive broker (if you have >=USD100k in cash or stocks). If you don't have USD100k, use whitelabels of interactive broker (tradestation global).
Alternative use trading212.
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any reason not to use FSM? high charges?

thought of using it because i already have funds inside there .
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post Jul 4 2020, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(bengang14 @ Jul 4 2020, 01:30 PM)
any reason not to use FSM? high charges?

thought of using it because i already have funds inside there .
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High commission, exchange rate not so good, dividend fees,
They are good for sg stocks and hk stocks only.

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Onelegkick80
post Jul 4 2020, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 4 2020, 01:08 PM)
I m using CS.

Buy is a free commission. Sell is charge at 0.06.
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Thanks!
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post Jul 4 2020, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(wendygoh @ Jul 4 2020, 10:12 AM)
Only their own house etf is zero commission
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Thanks!
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post Jul 7 2020, 11:42 AM

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I'm very new in US trading. So in conclusion which is the best trading broker for US stocks and why? Please enlighten tq
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QUOTE(arasu5531 @ Jul 7 2020, 11:42 AM)
I'm very new in US trading. So in conclusion which is the best trading broker for US stocks and why? Please enlighten tq
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Depends on what you want.
I use interactive broker white labels (Tradestation global)
It's interface is complicated but it gives me access to majority of the world's market which I need.

One alternative is trading212. Only issue you need to think is how to put in money and withdraw money. If you banks you going to get charged a lot.
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post Jul 7 2020, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 7 2020, 01:04 PM)
Depends on what you want.
I use interactive broker white labels (Tradestation global)
It's interface is complicated but it gives me access to majority of the world's market which I need.

One alternative is trading212. Only issue you need to think is how to put in money and withdraw money. If you banks you going to get charged a lot.
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I'm looking for us stocks only. I prefer a broker which has no deposit or withdrawal issues, should be cakewalk. And yeah with low fees of course.
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QUOTE(arasu5531 @ Jul 7 2020, 01:55 PM)
I'm looking for us stocks only. I prefer a broker which has no deposit or withdrawal issues, should be cakewalk. And yeah with low fees of course.
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The fe s is by Malaysian bank sides. Cannot avoid regardless if you use IB or trading212.

For IB can be bypass by using sg bank account.
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I'm looking for us stocks only. I prefer a broker which has no deposit or withdrawal issues, should be cakewalk. And yeah with low fees of course.
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Mau safe, mau cheap, mau no fees...I can tell u hard to find man. Luckily got trading 212
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post Jul 9 2020, 12:10 PM

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What are you guys favourite ETFs? I have VOO and QQQ, looking to add another tech heavy one. Any thoughts on XLK vs VGT? Both quite similar. drool.gif
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post Jul 10 2020, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 4 2020, 01:08 PM)
I m using CS.

Buy is a free commission. Sell is charge at 0.06.
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Hi Ozak, the 0.6% is charged by the bourse? That means if we use local broker, we have to pay local brokerage when sell plus the 0.6%? Thanks.
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post Jul 10 2020, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Onelegkick80 @ Jul 10 2020, 09:29 PM)
Hi Ozak, the 0.6% is charged by the bourse? That means if we use local broker, we have to pay local brokerage when sell plus the 0.6%? Thanks.
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What is bourse?

Local broker? CS is US brokerage.

0.06 cent per trade sell . Not 0.6%.
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QUOTE(singkalan @ Jul 9 2020, 12:10 PM)
What are you guys favourite ETFs? I have VOO and QQQ, looking to add another tech heavy one. Any thoughts on XLK vs VGT? Both quite similar. drool.gif
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I invested in Vanguard Extended Duration Treasury ETF (EDV) as it perform better during downturn
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This is the info from an Ireland etf.

May I know why the reported 3 month return is higher than the 1 year return? Does it mean that we should invest less or about 3 months then sell this ETF? Same thing goes to 3 years vs 5 years.

How to know whether this ETF is liquid or not to prevent no buyer when selling it?

Which website can know whether they have distribute any dividend or not? By looking at the info, it does not report.

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post Jul 14 2020, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Jul 14 2020, 02:30 PM)
This is the info from an Ireland etf.

May I know why the reported 3 month return is higher than the 1 year return? Does it mean that we should invest less or about 3 months then sell this ETF? Same thing goes to 3 years vs 5 years.

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Returns calculated are based "point in time" which may be misleading.

Let's say the ETF price today is $110. Price 1 year ago is $100.
However, the price 3 months ago was $105 because people panic sell but it recovered almost immediately.

The returns will be:
1 year: 10% (110/100)-1
3 month: 19.05% [(110/105)-1] x 12/3
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Jul 14 2020, 04:48 PM)
Returns calculated are based "point in time" which may be misleading.

Let's say the ETF price today is $110. Price 1 year ago is $100.
However, the price 3 months ago was $105 because people panic sell but it recovered almost immediately.

The returns will be:
1 year: 10% (110/100)-1
3 month: 19.05% [(110/105)-1] x 12/3
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Thank you for your reply.

We should not rely on those point in time based return, however, I notice that it is commonly use in mutual fund, mmf,... etc.

In this case, what are the indicators that we should look for to determine whether the ETF is performing well? Is it a wise ethod to check the performance of the majority stocks underlying this ETF?

Regarding liquidity, what is your advise?

I am thinking, if we are buying foreign ETF by ourself, since all dividend generated from it will incur withholding tax then we shuld invest in Ireland issued ETF since it is the lowest tax to foreigner. Do you agree?
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post Jul 14 2020, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Jul 14 2020, 04:50 PM)
Thank you for your reply.

We should not rely on those point in time based return, however, I notice that it is commonly use in mutual fund, mmf,... etc.

In this case, what are the indicators that we should look for to determine whether the ETF is performing well? Is it a wise ethod to check the performance of the majority stocks underlying this ETF?

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10 or 5 year average should be a good estimate.
Alternatively, you can take the data and calculate the return you would get had you invest a small amount everyday.
Popular index like S&P500 is known to generate around 4.8% p.a. consistently for 40 years.

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Regarding liquidity, what is your advise?
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You shouldn't be too worried if you invest less than 10000 units.

QUOTE(rocketm @ Jul 14 2020, 04:50 PM)
I am thinking, if we are buying foreign ETF by ourself, since all dividend generated from it will incur withholding tax then we shuld invest in Ireland issued ETF since it is the lowest tax to foreigner. Do you agree?
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Irish domiciled ETFs are preferred but do check whether if there are any hidden taxes in future.
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post Jul 14 2020, 10:07 PM

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We are proud to announce the launch of 2 new ETFs, the TradePlus DWA Malaysia Momentum Tracker (0836EA) and the TradePlus MSCI Asia ex Japan REITs Tracker (0837EA)!

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post Jul 16 2020, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 10 2020, 10:40 PM)
What is bourse?

Local broker? CS is US brokerage.

0.06 cent per trade sell . Not 0.6%.
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Thanks for your reply Ozak.
I mean the US bursa. Oh when I called CS, they told me there is a 0.6% charge on sell which is charged by the exchange. 0.06 cents per sell is charged by the exchange? then I guess CS would be a much better choice than maybank. In comparison, maybank will charge 0.4% per transaction but for CS only sell there’a a charge of 0.06 cents. Is this a correct conclusion?

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