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SUSErgoProxi
post Nov 12 2014, 02:50 PM

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Just something I found.
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post Nov 12 2014, 03:12 PM

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Then what about guy wearing ear ring? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 12 2014, 03:12 PM)
Then what about guy wearing ear ring? biggrin.gif
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Nothing to it.
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post Nov 12 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Nov 12 2014, 02:50 PM)
IN PRAISE OF THE DEVIL

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Just something I found.
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hahaha... since when a creation justify the creator biggrin.gif ? unless your are atheist then it's different mindset of course.
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post Nov 12 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 12 2014, 02:09 PM)
As in verse 13, as the key.
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Yup. The indwelling. Thought v13 was in v12. smile.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Nov 12 2014, 04:21 PM)
Yup. The indwelling. Thought v13 was in v12. smile.gif
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The working of God's power in our lives come through the principal of us being fully rested in Him and letting go of all strenght.

And the letting go of all our strength comes when we finally admit we cannot. ( 2 Corinthians 12:9 )

If I try and say I can obey God, I can surely obey God, just like the Israelites who "sort" of boasted before God they can and will obey all that the Lord commanded, (Exodus 19:8)
a golden calf is produced, idolatry.

That's why the covenant of Grace came, so that we can rest and let God work in us as we grow day by day.

Our striving to obey, will not produce what God wants which is by the way of fruit, God being the gardener.

SUSsylar111
post Nov 12 2014, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 11 2014, 04:26 PM)
Truth is eternal, things unseen. What can be seen is temporal.

2 Corinthians 4:18 - So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

Realities of Life may say no hope because of this reason and this or that reason but there is always hope in Heavenly Father.
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Well, the truth is.

God uses reality to train us up. It hasn't reach the stage whereby the supernatural is dorminant.
God provides us with wisdom to deal with reality.

Yes, what is seen is temporarily(reality)
The unseen is eternal(spiritual)

The thing with you is. You think that just because you are in Christ, you do not think you have to live in reality anymore.
The fact is reality gets even real when you are in Christ.

Because we are in Christ, We have to undergo persecution etc. Things will no longer go as smoothly as before. We also get more attack from Satan. Things can actually get worse.

Christians in Islam countries even have to die in the name of Christ.

The thing is, through reality, we can also confirm our identity in Christ. When people persecute us because we speak the truth. When people persecute us because we reveal our identity in Christ, it just confirms even more that we are Children of God.
You think that because we are in Christ, we will proper(Things will get better)

The thing is, we will not. In fact, because we are in Christ, we may even be poorer for that(materialistically) because we use our resources to help those in need.

The thing is, the verse which you posted. Yes, we fix our eyes unseen. Not what is seen.
So that is why even though we may suffer from a materialistic point of view or even sometimes an emotional or social point of view,
we look forward because we focus on the eternal things.

Even though our friends or even family will insult us because of our belief. We may even lose dignity. We may even lose material things. But because we are in Christ, we perservere because we are holding on for the hope in the future.

The thing about you is, you are always on the view that God has to do things your way just because you have been saved. You make God your puppet rather then your lord.


Now there is a possibility that God would want a change in direction in your life. But then there is also a possibility that God wants to use the situation to train you up even more.

If there is a strong conviction in you that changing of direction is the way to go, then go for it. If not, then most likely you are just trying to convince yourself that this is the direction that you want to go when in fact God did not intend you to change direction.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Nov 12 2014, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 12 2014, 03:12 PM)
Then what about guy wearing ear ring? biggrin.gif
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hmm.gif I don't know .... <thinking> maybe I didn't made it clear enough. So I will "sacrifice" you biggrin.gif on the altar lar (forgive me). sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Most of the questions asked ... is in the principle of the law or the Old Testament way. Can I wear "mixed" clothing? Can I have tattoo? Should I smoke? Should I practice Sabbath or not? Etc.

The principle of the law is you want someone human or something to tell you what to do steps by steps. Man likes to have clear instructions from the Bible concerning everything he does. If the Bible tells us what to do step by step, all we have to do is to act accordingly in a simple way. This is keeping the law.

By walking according to these hundreds and thousands of items of the law, a man becomes clear what is right and what is wrong, what is good and what is evil. He also becomes clear concerning the way he should take. This is the law. It is lifeless. Once a man begins to walk according to this dead law, he can put God aside and ignore Him.

However, God wants direct fellowship with us. He wants us to receive His revelation and then act according to His revelation. If we do not fellowship with Him, the Spirit will have no outlet for His work.

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In the Old Testament, people put on earrings in order to beautify themselves. So, spiritually, earring signifies self-beautification according to this age. Today’s culture promotes self-beautification. Men and women spend a great deal of money on items used to beautify themselves. Self-beautification leads to idolatry.

Paul says we need to "put on Christ". To put on Christ is to clothe ourselves with Christ. Whenever we clothe ourselves in a certain way, we indicate that we intend to live in that way. In like manner, to put on Christ means that we live by Christ, in Christ, and with Christ. In particular, it means that we live out Christ. Christ becomes the expression of our living. Immediately after we have been put into Christ and have entered into an organic union with Him, we need to live Christ, to put Christ on in our living. Day by day, we need to be clothed with Christ and express Him as we live in Him, by Him, and with Him.

Experientially, we are experiencing Christ in every aspect of our daily life, for example, in the clothes we wear, in the way we cut our hair, and in our attitudes. In everything, great or small, we need to experience Christ. In wearing shoes, in cutting our hair, and even in expressing our attitudes, we should have Christ.

So, the question you will be asking, does the Lord within you as you fellowship with Him, wear the earring with you? Do you have peace within? Is He one with you in this matter?


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This post has been edited by pehkay: Nov 12 2014, 05:35 PM
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post Nov 12 2014, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Nov 12 2014, 01:04 PM)
happy.gif depends on how much the Lord measured us lor.

He is the "man of brass"; Brass = judging, testing, examining us tongue.gif
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hahaha.. i mean how long you spend time in GOD's presence, so you can get that powerful message flex.gif
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 05:27 PM)
Well, the truth is.

God uses reality to train us up. It hasn't reach the stage whereby the supernatural is dorminant.
God provides us with wisdom to deal with reality.

Yes, what is seen is temporarily(reality)
The unseen is eternal(spiritual)

The thing with you is. You think that just because you are in Christ, you do not think you have to live in reality anymore.
The fact is reality gets even real when you are in Christ.

Because we are in Christ, We have to undergo persecution etc. Things will no longer go as smoothly as before. We also get more attack from Satan. Things can actually get worse.

Christians in Islam countries even have to die in the name of Christ.

The thing is, through reality, we can also confirm our identity in Christ. When people persecute us because we speak the truth. When people persecute us because we reveal our identity in Christ, it just confirms even more that we are Children of God.
You think that because we are in Christ, we will proper(Things will get better)

The thing is, we will not. In fact, because we are in Christ, we may even be poorer for that(materialistically) because we use our resources to help those in need.

The thing is, the verse which you posted. Yes, we fix our eyes unseen. Not what is seen.
So that is why even though we may suffer from a materialistic point of view or even sometimes an emotional or social point of view,
we look forward because we focus on the eternal things.

Even though our friends or even family will insult us because of our belief. We may even lose dignity. We may even lose material things. But because we are in Christ, we perservere because we are holding on for the hope in the future.

The thing about you is, you are always on the view that God has to do things your way just because you have been saved. You make God your puppet rather then your lord.
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biggrin.gif You have a wrong view of who God is. That is why you are bitter and unhappy most of the time in your life.


SUSsylar111
post Nov 12 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 12 2014, 05:39 PM)
biggrin.gif You have a wrong view of who God is. That is why you are bitter and unhappy most of the time in your life.
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Haha. How you know that I am bitter and unhappy most of the time.

Did you even see me in real life?

Just because I happen to be agressive here, you conclude that I am like that in real life.

Shows how shallow you are. Right?

It's pretty easy to say that my views are wrong without any justification.

Your maturity really does not coincide with your age. I feel like I am talking to a twenty something or even a teenager.

Even Decky is probably more matured then you. Says a lot right?

This post has been edited by sylar111: Nov 12 2014, 06:02 PM
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post Nov 12 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 05:55 PM)
Haha. How you know that I am bitter and unhappy most of the time.

Did you even see me in real life?

Just because I happen to be agressive here, you conclude that I am like that in real life.

Shows how shallow you are. Right?

It's pretty easy to say that my views are wrong without any justification.

Your maturity really does not coincide with your age. I feel like I am talking to a twenty something or even a teenager.

Even Decky is probably more matured then you. Says a lot right?
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Maybe your public relation image since day 1 biggrin.gif ?

I also aggressive, and people don't like me. And i know things like this does not go anywhere. It's not only you who feel rejected, bitter and unhappy in the past. I did also, i know how it feel

So i choose to decide to support UW ... at the end it's better have some level of unity, instead of everybody brings their own theology...

company politics ? church politics... it always happen right ? cuz GOD's kingdom always requires team work on nucleus-cell level.
SUSsylar111
post Nov 12 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 12 2014, 06:38 PM)
Maybe your public relation image since day 1 biggrin.gif ?

I also aggressive, and people don't like me. And i know things like this does not go anywhere. It's not only you who feel rejected, bitter and unhappy in the past. I did also, i know how it feel

So i choose to decide to support UW ... at the end it's better have some level of unity, instead of everybody brings their own theology...

company politics ? church politics... it always happen right ? cuz GOD's kingdom always requires team work on nucleus-cell level.
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Again, what makes you think I feel " rejected, bitter and unhappy in the past".

That is the problem with you guys.

Never ever consistent. Even in your own post. And you expect to be taken seriously.

You are only good at name calling that's all.

Are you really a developer? With such logic, I doubt it.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Nov 12 2014, 07:51 PM
ngaisteve1
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Nov 12 2014, 06:34 PM)
hmm.gif I don't know .... <thinking> maybe I didn't made it clear enough. So I will "sacrifice" you biggrin.gif on the altar lar (forgive me).  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Most of the questions asked ... is in the principle of the law or the Old Testament way. Can I wear "mixed" clothing? Can I have tattoo? Should I smoke? Should I practice Sabbath or not? Etc.

The principle of the law is you want someone human or something to tell you what to do steps by steps. Man likes to have clear instructions from the Bible concerning everything he does. If the Bible tells us what to do step by step, all we have to do is to act accordingly in a simple way. This is keeping the law.

By walking according to these hundreds and thousands of items of the law, a man becomes clear what is right and what is wrong, what is good and what is evil. He also becomes clear concerning the way he should take. This is the law. It is lifeless. Once a man begins to walk according to this dead law, he can put God aside and ignore Him.

However, God wants direct fellowship with us. He wants us to receive His revelation and then act according to His revelation. If we do not fellowship with Him, the Spirit will have no outlet for His work.

---------

In the Old Testament, people put on earrings in order to beautify themselves. So, spiritually, earring signifies self-beautification according to this age. Today’s culture promotes self-beautification. Men and women spend a great deal of money on items used to beautify themselves. Self-beautification leads to idolatry.

Paul says we need to "put on Christ". To put on Christ is to clothe ourselves with Christ. Whenever we clothe ourselves in a certain way, we indicate that we intend to live in that way. In like manner, to put on Christ means that we live by Christ, in Christ, and with Christ. In particular, it means that we live out Christ. Christ becomes the expression of our living. Immediately after we have been put into Christ and have entered into an organic union with Him, we need to live Christ, to put Christ on in our living. Day by day, we need to be clothed with Christ and express Him as we live in Him, by Him, and with Him.

Experientially, we are experiencing Christ in every aspect of our daily life, for example, in the clothes we wear, in the way we cut our hair, and in our attitudes. In everything, great or small, we need to experience Christ. In wearing shoes, in cutting our hair, and even in expressing our attitudes, we should have Christ.

So, the question you will be asking, does the Lord within you as you fellowship with Him, wear the earring with you? Do you have peace within? Is He one with you in this matter?
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Yeah, good reflection question to the heart/motive rather the action itself. Do Jesus wear ear ring? Do he wants you to wear? and why you want to wear?
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post Nov 12 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 07:46 PM)
Again, what makes you think I feel " rejected, bitter and unhappy in the past".

That is the problem with you guys.

Never ever consistent. Even in your own post. And you expect to be taken seriously.

You are only good at name calling that's all.

Are you really a developer? With such logic, I doubt it.
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developer works for me biggrin.gif ... i don't do logic. i do politics and managements. i create logic to fit my reason.
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 05:55 PM)
Haha. How you know that I am bitter and unhappy most of the time.

Did you even see me in real life?

Just because I happen to be agressive here, you conclude that I am like that in real life.

Shows how shallow you are. Right?

......

Your maturity really does not coincide with your age. I feel like I am talking to a twenty something or even a teenager.

Even Decky is probably more matured then you. Says a lot right?
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Oh talking about maturity and shallowness, Why blame any of us for concluding like this, since you that's how you portray yourself in this thread most of the time being bitter, condemning, insulting,....just few examples observable.

Friendship, Relationship, getting to know one another takes time...Don't expect any of us to know, how you in real life. unless you're willing to share part of yourself beyond what you expose yourself to be thus far.

Besides what is the point of you being aggressive?

QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 05:55 PM)
It's pretty easy to say that my views are wrong without any justification.
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Justification on your wrong view of God?

Well talk about that later when you settle your aggressive problem first. Don't talk about your view of God when you yourself have problem of understanding what fellowship is all about.


SUSsylar111
post Nov 12 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 12 2014, 08:17 PM)
Oh talking about maturity and shallowness, Why blame any of us for concluding like this, since you that's how you portray yourself in this thread most of the time being bitter, condemning, insulting,....just few examples observable.

Friendship, Relationship, getting to know one another takes time...Don't expect any of us to know, how you in real life.  unless you're willing to share part of yourself beyond what you expose yourself to be thus far.

Besides what is the point of you being aggressive?
Justification on your wrong view of God?

Well talk about that later when you settle your aggressive problem first. Don't talk about your view of God when you yourself have problem of understanding what fellowship is all about.
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Yeah, twisting the main gist.

Incredible. How someone can determine a person is sad just by looking at the post.

Really a 40 plus with a 10-20+ mentality.

That is always what you are good at.
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post Nov 12 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 08:19 PM)
Yeah, twisting the main gist.

Incredible. How someone can determine a person is sad just by looking at the post.

Really a 40 plus with a 10-20+ mentality.

That is always what you are good at.
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No. Nobody is twisting anything.

Like I said, don't blame anyone if that is how you portray yourself.

You'll always hide behind the word "twist" even when clear explanation was given.
SUSsylar111
post Nov 12 2014, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 12 2014, 08:29 PM)
No. Nobody is twisting anything.

Like I said, don't blame anyone if that is how you portray yourself.

You'll always hide behind the word "twist" even when clear explanation was given.
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Yeah. Hide is the best word to describe you. The one who is insecure is probably you. You need the attention. Insecure people always need attention
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 08:51 PM)
Yeah. Hide is the best word to describe you. The one who is insecure is probably you. You need the attention. Insecure people always need attention
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What was it you said about maturity and shallowness? laugh.gif

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