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Nov 9 2014, 08:38 PM
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Nov 9 2014, 08:55 PM
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Came across this article, Prayer Difficult? Remedy Here. Want to share with u all.
Ever talk with God? Did He answer? The Bible references prayer more than 600 times, confirming its critical importance. Simply put, prayer represents the very spiritual lifeblood of the relationship we have with God. It's the main way we communicate with both our all-powerful Father in heaven and with Jesus Christ, our Advocate. Through many examples, the Bible shows how prayer is the miraculous medium directly connecting physical man to God, who is Spirit (John:4:24). Through prayer we can express our gratitude, praise, thoughts and needs to God. The Bible firmly states that prayer works. It "avails much" (James:5:16). But what happens when we actually pray? Do we sometimes get stuck in what seems to be a one-way communication link? Do we get caught in a repetitious, even mindless pattern, repeating ourselves? Ever feel dissatisfied with what you prayed? Ever even have a few pangs of guilt? Here's the real question: How do we pray effectively? One of the most helpful scriptures concerning how to make our prayer more effective appears in the Book of Romans: "Likewise the Spirit also helps our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered [deep intercession that cannot be expressed in mere words]" (Romans:8:26). Here we find a biblical admission that we may not be praying as we should. Although well-intentioned, our prayers can be off target or incomplete. Thankfully, God provides help! What does "as we ought" mean? Can it mean that our well-meaning prayers may actually be repetitious and mechanical, hurried, selfish and shallow? Is it hard to concentrate and stay focused? Left alone, would such off-target prayers ever get answered? This same verse does offer help! Here's a critical fact to consider: In prayer we are bridging our physical dimension with the spirit dimension of God. It's a dimension that is foreign to the natural physical man, and humans can even be hostile to it. Part of a person's conversion process is embracing the spiritual dimension of God. The Holy Spirit—the very nature, mind and power of God—is given to those who surrender and humbly accept a relationship with God. Through God's Spirit, we have a power-filled means to reach and communicate with God with a greater degree of satisfaction and effectiveness. Allow me to relate some personal experiences that may be helpful: In my prayers, I have invoked the Romans:8:26 promise. I know I am but human. So as a part of my prayer, I ask God to help me understand the dimension that I should enter and request help for the needed lift to focus and prioritize my thoughts. This is a great starting point. I then find I have a rewarding session talking to the very Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Effective, rewarding prayer is vital for Christian growth. Powerful prayer opens a door to all eternity by talking to God, a Being who is very interested in us personally. http://www.ucg.org/blog/prayer-difficult-remedy-here/ |
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Nov 9 2014, 09:02 PM
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Proverbs 24:16
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Nov 9 2014, 09:34 PM
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Nov 9 2014, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 9 2014, 09:32 PM) I am not magnifying the devil. I am just saying that we will definitely sin whether we like it or not but yeah we are saved through Christ's redemption plan. Humility is very important in christianity, ya know. Do i look humble ? or do i look arrogant ? seriously... no i am not debating about killing goliath. my question is another thread lah... kindly consider that Well don't want to turn it into another debate. Lets just leave it here. |
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Nov 9 2014, 10:40 PM
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Nov 10 2014, 12:34 AM
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Been having a very bad toothache since 2 weeks ago, already seek dental treatment but still not improving..........i hope i can last for another 1 more week before my next visit to dentist
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Nov 10 2014, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 9 2014, 10:39 PM) I dunno bro about whether u arrogant or humble. don't worry... HS can remind you if you are overconfidence. yes if you fail, you will get up again. is it coincidence that i post Proverbs 24:16 earlier ? Post #543... and look i still not edit it. usually when you edit a post there is mark similar to belowBut do you remember this passage of Peter's overconfidence? Matthew 26:30-35 30After singing a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives. 31Then Jesus said to them, "You will all fall away because of Me this night, for it is written, 'I WILL STRIKE DOWN THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP OF THE FLOCK SHALL BE SCATTERED.'32"But after I have been raised, I will go ahead of you to Galilee."33 But Peter said to Him, "Even though all may fall away because of You, I will never fall away." 34Jesus said to him, "Truly I say to you that this very night, before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times."35Peter said to Him, "Even if I have to die with You, I will not deny You." All the disciples said the same thing too. But they did deny Jesus. Matthew 26:69-75 Now Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard, and a servant-girl came to him and said, “You too were with Jesus the Galilean.” 70 But he denied it before them all, saying, “I do not know what you are talking about.” 71 When he had gone out to the gateway, another servant-girl saw him and said to those who were there, “This man was with Jesus of Nazareth.” 72 And again he denied it with an oath, “I do not know the man.” 73 A little later the bystanders came up and said to Peter, “Surely you too are one of them; for even the way you talk gives you away.” 74 Then he began to curse and swear, “I do not know the man!” And immediately a rooster crowed. 75 And Peter remembered the word which Jesus had said, “Before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.” And he went out and wept bitterly. This post has been edited by de1929: Today, 07:27 AM look at Post #543 ... still not edited. It's there... now you believe in GOD's providence ? This post has been edited by de1929: Nov 10 2014, 07:28 AM |
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Nov 10 2014, 08:52 AM
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Nov 10 2014, 09:27 AM
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Nov 10 2014, 09:52 AM
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Nov 10 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 10 2014, 08:52 AM) About 2 years. Started late though.Was in the corporate world since early 90's. Can say I gave up & lost hope in whatever security the world has to offer. Found hope in Christ to be much better. |
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Nov 10 2014, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(ThePope @ Nov 10 2014, 10:24 AM) No, you are definitely not humble! Ngai and Fahmy have been gently teaching you the whole time for the past two pages but you have not been listening! Hallo Pope,The bible says to flee sexual immorality. Not flirt with danger like what you are advocating! The flesh is weak and sinful and will remain that way until you die. Why go tempting fate? And why are you even misquoting Proverbs 24:16? Are you trying to take God's grace cheaply? You should read the bible more because its God's word to us, instead of always saying HS this, HS that. I hope you only do that in here. If you do this outside people will think you are crazy. Maybe you should try Hosea 4:6 instead of Proverbs 24:16 : My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you shall be no priest to me: seeing you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children. Proverbs 24:16 is valid for all believers even for de1929. Grace mean receiving good from God especially when we don't deserve it. Romans 4:5 - However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. Whether cheap or expensive, Not in your place to qualify who gets its or who doesn't. If God has given this grace to the ungodly, no way you can disqualify the ungodly. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 10 2014, 11:21 AM |
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Nov 10 2014, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(ThePope @ Nov 10 2014, 10:24 AM) ... don't worry pope, don't worry.... our fate is a champion (yes a humbly champion) by GOD's grace... bible oso say kill the goliath rite ?The bible says to flee sexual immorality. Not flirt with danger like what you are advocating! The flesh is weak and sinful and will remain that way until you die. Why go tempting fate? ... pornography is advancing rapidly... sure malaysian guy must armed, where to flee ? no sunway mall ? no movie ? no college ? c'mon be relevant lahh |
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Nov 10 2014, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 10 2014, 11:33 AM) About 2 years. Started late though. I think is never too late to start what we like to do. I think for me I need to brush up my technical skill to make me excited back and same time pursuing my studies. gonna be challenging. but hopefully can pull through and enjoy the process of learning and training.Was in the corporate world since early 90's. Can say I gave up & lost hope in whatever security the world has to offer. Found hope in Christ to be much better. |
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Nov 10 2014, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(ThePope @ Nov 10 2014, 10:24 AM) ... because Robert Young wrote preface to revised edition as this:You should read the bible more because its God's word to us, instead of always saying HS this, HS that. ... If a translation gives a "present tense" when the original gives a "past", or a "past" when it has a "present"; a "perfect" for a "future", or a "future" for a "perfect"; an "a" for a "the", or a "the" for an "a"; an "imperative" for a "subjunctive", or a "subjunctive" for an "imperative"; a "verb" for a "noun", or a "noun" for a "verb", it is clear that verbal inspiration is as much overlooked as if it had no existence. THE WORD OF GOD IS MADE VOID BY THE TRADITIONS OF MEN. are you sure with what you read ? PS: here is the YLT book link heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/bibles/ylt.pdf This post has been edited by de1929: Nov 10 2014, 06:09 PM |
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Nov 10 2014, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 10 2014, 02:51 PM) I think is never too late to start what we like to do. I think for me I need to brush up my technical skill to make me excited back and same time pursuing my studies. gonna be challenging. but hopefully can pull through and enjoy the process of learning and training. Sometimes it can be too late.Let's see, you have to start from beginning at 38-39. You only have 10 -15 years left. And you are already at an age where you cannot learn so quickly anymore. At your current age, it's no more about technical skills anymore. That's the reality. Yes it is not too late. If you have the resources. This post has been edited by sylar111: Nov 10 2014, 08:56 PM |
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Nov 10 2014, 09:03 PM
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Nov 10 2014, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 10 2014, 02:51 PM) I think is never too late to start what we like to do. I think for me I need to brush up my technical skill to make me excited back and same time pursuing my studies. gonna be challenging. but hopefully can pull through and enjoy the process of learning and training. QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 10 2014, 08:51 PM) Sometimes it can be too late. ngai I agree with sylar111, my eyes oso cannot focus too long on screen, and now microsoft introduce a new language called F#... so next 3 years i expect G# H# ... where the end of this ? Let's see, you have to start from beginning at 38-39. You only have 10 -15 years left. And you are already at an age where you cannot learn so quickly anymore. At your current age, it's no more about technical skills anymore. That's the reality. Yes it is not too late. If you have the resources. If you have resources ... yes maybe not too late... perhaps next post i will speak positive things. |
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Nov 10 2014, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 10 2014, 08:51 PM) Sometimes it can be too late. With Man it is impossible but With God all things are possible, no?Let's see, you have to start from beginning at 38-39. You only have 10 -15 years left. And you are already at an age where you cannot learn so quickly anymore. At your current age, it's no more about technical skills anymore. That's the reality. Yes it is not too late. If you have the resources. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 10 2014, 09:58 PM |
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