I think one of these days,

ngaisteve1 should share devotion on relationship.

How Christian guys should learn to be cool and not look desperate.

And

How Christian girls should learn to be patience and choose wisely which guy is the suitable one.

All the priorities are very important and that would include praying in tongues to God. Spiritual warfare is not something we should take lightly.

I need to be clear that, This is not the same as speaking in tongues of other languages or to instruct another believer in tongues. No. now THAT gifting is as what you've said, it is distributed accordingly.

But not this one;

This is praying in tongues to God directly in the context of ver 2. Every Christian have this gifting, that is why Paul said I would like every one of you to speak in tongues because everyone can. But he goes on to say I rather that you prophesy because prophecy it's for building of the Church as a whole. You noticed that he made a clear contrast that speaking in tongues is private. (Only you and God). Neither did the Bible indicated that Tongues is a sign for believers. But if someone pray in tongues loudly for the entire Church, then you need an interpreter. Because on sunday service, there could be unbelievers attending.

Problem is, some Christian misquote this and apply it to all situation, even in mission fields using the same reason meant for unbelievers.

In prayer group for mission, I believe it is reasonable to say all present are believers. You cannot use that and say praying/speaking in tongues is not important.
That is my context of the point I made.

Your concern is shown when you asked is praying /speaking in tongues necessary/important? and you go and quote 1 Corinthians  12, 13 & 14.
Most Christians who don't understand the context of 1 Corinthians 14 will inevitably question it is important Because I don't understand what the guy is praying.

Am I right to say this is your concern?

If he has the gift of interpreting tongues, why not?

This is not something weird or out of place that has never happened in the Christian community.

It's in the Bible. The occurance is written in the New Testament all over and the Apostle Paul actually encourages it and even admonish:

Don't forbid speaking in tongues at the last end of 1 Corinthians 14.

I seem to get the impression that denomination who don't believe in speaking in tongues thinks that this is satanic.

I seriously cannot understand the fear and paranoia of it or what the their base for saying that.

Correct me if this is not the case.

This gift of Interpretation of the tongue does not come from the bottom of that person's heart. 

It's a gifting enabled by the HS at that point of time when the need arise.

This interpretation is not where you can understand indefinitely like a learned language. 

Aiyo Steve

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I'm not disputing on speaking in tongues during Sunday service in this context below:

When One suddenly speaks in tongues in a loud manner during Sunday Service and no one interpret what that person says.

I totally agree it's not edifying the Church.
I tried to explain so many times, this is not the context I'm disputing.
I don't know, if you or decky or General Fahmy understand up to here. 

yeah it is. Btw how much did you buy it in RM?

In regard to Post 144, may i bug you with ur post above ?

bible only say about spouse:

2 Corinthians 6:14Amplified Bible (AMP)

14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers [do not make mismated alliances with them or come under a different yoke with them, inconsistent with your faith]. For what partnership have right living and right standing with God with iniquity and lawlessness? Or how can light have fellowship with darkness?

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Ok my version agree with above, but i added some "spiritual things". The verse is below.

Psalm 84:10Amplified Bible (AMP)

10 For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand [anywhere else]; I would rather be a doorkeeper and stand at the threshold in the house of my God than to dwell [at ease] in the tents of wickedness.

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Why added ?

e.g. Jane, Amanda, shien, may2x, nora, etc..etc... which bible verse tell that ngai have to married Jane / Amanda ? which church Jane is ? Is amanda already saved or "work in progresss" ?

only HS can counsel you with this... and no amount of books / hermeneutics can resolve your case above...

probably u asked. Did u pray for me ? the answer I did ... but what i got is not clear... "as of my best understanding" here is what i got:
1. Ur spouse will not be from ur local church. She is not there.
2. You need to go from church to church. Because you are a caregroup leader, i discussed with HS about you going to trip to GKDI (GKDI still ur indonesian branch right ?) and do some "preaching" there on small church... when your reputation builds up... women will come for you... networking plays...
3. Need to be brave sikit... (i don't know what brave HS talking about)

in short, please check back with HS all 3 points above. If nothing then nothing, if something then something. Be blessed and all the best... don't read book for this case.

In regard to Post 144, may i bug you with ur post above ?

bible only say about spouse:

2 Corinthians 6:14Amplified Bible (AMP)

14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers [do not make mismated alliances with them or come under a different yoke with them, inconsistent with your faith]. For what partnership have right living and right standing with God with iniquity and lawlessness? Or how can light have fellowship with darkness?

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Ok my version agree with above, but i added some "spiritual things". The verse is below.

Psalm 84:10Amplified Bible (AMP)

10 For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand [anywhere else]; I would rather be a doorkeeper and stand at the threshold in the house of my God than to dwell [at ease] in the tents of wickedness.

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Why added ?

e.g. Jane, Amanda, shien, may2x, nora, etc..etc... which bible verse tell that ngai have to married Jane / Amanda ? which church Jane is ? Is amanda already saved or "work in progresss" ?

only HS can counsel you with this... and no amount of books / hermeneutics can resolve your case above...

probably u asked. Did u pray for me ? the answer I did ... but what i got is not clear... "as of my best understanding" here is what i got:
1. Ur spouse will not be from ur local church. She is not there.
2. You need to go from church to church. Because you are a caregroup leader, i discussed with HS about you going to trip to GKDI (GKDI still ur indonesian branch right ?) and do some "preaching" there on small church... when your reputation builds up... women will come for you... networking plays...
3. Need to be brave sikit... (i don't know what brave HS talking about)

in short, please check back with HS all 3 points above. If nothing then nothing, if something then something. Be blessed and all the best... don't read book for this case.

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Teaching Bible

don't use heavy word prophecy lahh... i just simply pray for U... and all i have many download. The problem is most download are images... how to put images into lowyat forum ? i just summarize things...

now from image to words confirm lost so many details... that's why you need to check back with HS what's the meaning of those 3 points...

here are some thing to ponder:
do you have problem fly to indonesia if GKDI manages to invite you ?
try to talk to GKDI indonesia so u can minister there not violating bible right ?
it's not violating the bible to find potential mates in other churches right ? or you have issues with this ?
i know u want indonesian wive probably cuz indonesian girl are not so "picky" hahahah... but of course check back with HS
is it possible to contact all GKDI pastor in indonesia ? and build relationshipts ? then you can ask the pastor got candidate or not 

lol, what conversion class? you mean new Christians? no.

In Small Group and Youth.
Nice prophecy btw, didn't know dee is a prophet of relationship. 

when you say you deliver bible study, about "thorn" things long time ago ? i recalled iwubpreve oso ur member ? what group is that ?

wazup ngai  ... care to discuss about RONA (raise of new atheism) ? Decky has concern about RONA as he wrote in Post #184 ... until post #187... but drifted to prosperity definitions...

We can control RONA ...

Bible say bind bind, release release.. i forgot the verse but trust me, it's there... we can bind RONA. Our tongue / mouth is powerful. Life and death flow from it (again forgot verse)... i am not talking speaking in tongue, but our tongue...

James 3 talking about tongue... especially 5 n 6

in practical don't say like this to malaysia: aiyoo my country die lahh... difficult lah... racism lahh... now gasoline oso increase... now property buble ...

instead you say: my country malaysia is blessed... it's work in progress... GOD bless malaysia ... similar tone n attitude lahh...

How come from english collonial can ended up a federal with moslem as official religion ? Can share me the historical material ?

there must be some activity by malaysian forefather to principalities in the air in order to secure whole semenanjung... i mean the gravity of whole semananjung in spritiual realm is not peanut size... look how many soul lost every day...