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tinarhian
post Jan 8 2015, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 8 2015, 09:08 PM)
It's alright, we all learn.

Chapter 9 speaks of Israel rejection, because they rejected Jesus as Messiah, God opened this Salvation to the world as a sign to the Jews to spite them to jealousy.

Actually all in all, God still cares for them, wanting them to be saved.  (Romans 10:21)
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But even till today, the Jews are still stubborn right?
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post Jan 8 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 8 2015, 09:10 PM)
But even till today, the Jews are still stubborn right?
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I actually have a question about this as well. All about their claims of the superiority of their Torah.

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post Jan 8 2015, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 8 2015, 09:10 PM)
But even till today, the Jews are still stubborn right?
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Not all the Jews. Many are coming to Christ. I've met face to face visiting Christians Jews in my church.
They too are trying to evangelize to their own people. Can say part of the Jews are opening up to Christ.

That's why we need to pray for them, that their heart will continuously be open.
Jesus would return immediately the moment Israel declare "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'

Of course majority of them are still into Judaism, some have turned secular but the things is, God is still working in their lives.
They're the most blessed people on this planet.
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post Jan 8 2015, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 8 2015, 09:17 PM)
Not all the Jews. Many are coming to Christ. I've met face to face visiting Christians Jews in my church.
They too are trying to evangelize to their own people. Can say part of the Jews are opening up to Christ.

That's why we need to pray for them, that their heart will continuously be open.
Jesus would return immediately the moment Israel declare "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'

Of course majority of them are still into Judaism, some have turned secular but the things is, God is still working in their lives.
They're the most blessed people on this planet.
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Yeah I guess so.

The Jews are special indeed. Israel is a beautiful country to visit.
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post Jan 8 2015, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 8 2015, 09:14 PM)
I actually have a question about this as well. All about their claims of the superiority of their Torah.
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Torah is the first 5 books which we included in Bible.

God already revealed the sign of the Messiah in the first book of the Torah which is Genesis 3:15


15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

And this is symbolic that Christ crushed Satan's dominion by his resurrection.

Death which previously held by Satan was defeated by Christ.
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post Jan 8 2015, 09:53 PM

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But even though God had revealed the sign of Messiah, the Jews still didn't believe that Jesus was the Messiah.

If any of you decide to visit Israel, remember to try the following delicacies:-

1. Shawarma
2. Latkes
3. Hamin
4. Shakshuka
5. Sufganiyot
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post Jan 8 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jan 8 2015, 09:41 PM)
yes i ate 3 tablets of panadol before, that is some times ago, the headache is so severe that i decided to take 3 of my usual 1 tablet so i can just fall asleep and rest my head
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Taking panadol is actually pretty harmful to the liver and kidney especially at high dosage. Last year I blog about this - http://www.akusihat.com/berhati-hati-dengan-panadol/

Kes 1: Paracetamol membunuh ibu yang mengambil ‘beberapa tambahan’ pil sehari.

Kes 2: Seorang ayah bersedih semalam memberitahu bagaimana anak perempuannya meninggal dunia selepas mengambil terlalu banyak pil paracetamol dalam usaha untuk melegakan kesakitan beliau selepas rawatan pergigian.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 8 2015, 07:00 PM)
true, but i see from another angle  biggrin.gif

i go to mudah i can get car for RM5000 (super old kancil), or get motorcycle brand new for about RM3000 ? that resolves transportation issues
house ? home can rent in kampong / sub urbs for RM500 monthly. he stay in melaka... so assume around that price lah hehe...

i mean cuz they are young, they can stretch themshelves.

now let's assume both couple earn at least RM2000 to RM5000 lahh.... if both couple earn RM1000 or below oh no... then our math kaput lahh....

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the church always need money lah brader.... regardless big / small church ... so the best investment is to invest in church...
our GOD is a good GOD. instead of depends on bank loan and pay interest, why don't we invest in church, and the interest is ... being patience ? from all ends / all angle is good in the long run
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If rent really very low then can consider. Otherwise, can consider to buy because at the end the house belong to you and property price will go out to cover the interest we paid too. For rental, after 10-20 years, the house still do not belong to us.
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post Jan 9 2015, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 8 2015, 11:15 PM)
Taking panadol is actually pretty harmful to the liver and kidney especially at high dosage. Last year I blog about this - http://www.akusihat.com/berhati-hati-dengan-panadol/

Kes 1: Paracetamol membunuh ibu yang mengambil ‘beberapa tambahan’ pil sehari.

Kes 2: Seorang ayah bersedih semalam memberitahu bagaimana anak perempuannya meninggal dunia selepas mengambil terlalu banyak pil paracetamol dalam usaha untuk melegakan kesakitan beliau selepas rawatan pergigian.
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that is when you took it almost everyday for few tablets but for me i took the most only 1 tablet most of the time unless it's too painful then no choice go for 2 but the 3rd one is very rare so far only consumed once coz once consumed you need to sleep straight away for almost like 6 hours and above
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Errrr if a max dosage don't work please don't tambah.
DO NOT

Lucky you had no complications. They're potent and sometimes you don't know the damage until it's too late.

If a medicine doesn't work, try another type. Different chemicals might work better than you. NEVER NEVER NEVER increase beyond the maximum dose!

Paracetemol is known to cause liver damage. Most painkillers also. And kidneys. That's why must drink a lot of water and NEVER take it for long term. Water dilutes the dose and helps the organs matabolize it without killing itself.

The cases where people died from paracetemol is due to excessive use. If allergic obviously don't take at all.




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post Jan 9 2015, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 9 2015, 02:34 AM)
Errrr if a max dosage don't work please don't tambah.
DO NOT

Lucky you had no complications. They're potent and sometimes you don't know the damage until it's too late.

If a medicine doesn't work, try another type. Different chemicals might work better than you. NEVER NEVER NEVER increase beyond the maximum dose!

Paracetemol is known to cause liver damage. Most painkillers also. And kidneys. That's why must drink a lot of water and NEVER take it for long term. Water dilutes the dose and helps the organs matabolize it without killing itself.

The cases where people died from paracetemol is due to excessive use. If allergic obviously don't take at all.
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Yeah that's why there is a 'warning' to mention the max daily dosage. but not sure ppl notice that or not
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The experience of Jacob

Being Broken Pt 6

Among the thousands of people in the church life, there are many different kinds: the clever, the wise, the crafty, the proud, the arrogant. According to religion, the correct way is to change our outward behavior. But God's way, the way of life, is different. God did not say to Jacob, "Jacob, I have wrestled with you, touched you, changed your name, and given you My blessing. From now on, you must not exercise your craftiness or use your natural strength to face the situation with your brother, Esau. Don't be crafty any longer. Trust in Me and let Me take care of this matter." There is no such account in the Bible. There is simply the record of Jacob's being touched. The Lord touched his thigh, changed his name, and gave him His blessing—that is all. No sermon, no instruction, was given to him. Whatever Jacob did after that, such as divide his folks into three groups, was up to him. Often, after the Lord touches us, He does not tell us what to do. Instead, He leaves us to ourselves, allowing us to do whatever we like. If we examine our experience, we shall see that this is so.

Those, especially the elders, who care for others are fond of instructing people. Frequently they say, "Brother, you were mistaken. Now that the Lord has blessed you, you should not treat your wife the same way. Surely for the sake of the Lord's glory, you must change." The sisters who engage in shepherding may charge others, saying, "Sister, you should not exchange words with your husband any longer. You should not do this—you should not do that." This is our way, but it is not the Lord's way. After touching Jacob's thigh and blessing him, the Lord gave him no instruction. He did not even say a word. Rather, after that touch, Jacob still exercised himself. He seemed to say to his people, "You all stay back. Let me go forward to see my brother Esau." But as he walked toward him, he did so in a limping way. What a difference between our natural concept and God's way! What a difference between the religious practice and the Lord's touching!

I do not want to hear of instructions that are given to you; rather, I like to see that, one by one, so many of you are touched by the Lord. Often, sisters have come to me complaining about their husbands. However, as they accuse their husbands before me, I am happy because in their accusations I notice that they are limping. Perhaps only a few days earlier they came to me without any sign of having been touched. But now, although they still complain and accuse their husbands, a definite limp is perceivable. I am happy to see that they have been touched. One touch is better than all kinds of instructions. The Lord's touching of our natural life is much better than a hundred messages. This is our need today.

Verse 31 says, "And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he limped upon his thigh" (Heb.). After the touch, the sun rose upon Jacob. He was crippled, but he was in the light. Anyone in the Lord's recovery who has light must be a crippled one. No one under the light is still whole; everyone under the light of the heavenly shining is lame. In the dark night, Jacob was strong and every part of him was whole. But after he was touched, the sun rose upon him and he was full of light. He was under the shining of the heavenly light, yet he was a crippled man. Because we are truly in the Lord's hand and are following His way, many of us are having this kind of experience.

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post Jan 9 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 8 2015, 08:25 PM)
What?! Rent for RM500? Really that cheap?

How do you "invest" in church? God will bless us if we pray but sometimes not all our prayers are answered you know?
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jan 8 2015, 08:45 PM)
he is asking for devotional material you go give other thing pulak rclxub.gif

most people today already have car before they married lar, are you trying to ask them to sell off all their possessions and give all to the church? not to say cannot but how are they going to survive if like this

they are not lucky like you, salary man only.......... sweat.gif Jesus said when you giving tithe 10% of your income goes to the offerings for God
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 8 2015, 11:17 PM)
If rent really very low then can consider. Otherwise, can consider to buy because at the end the house belong to you and property price will go out to cover the interest we paid too. For rental, after 10-20 years, the house still do not belong to us.
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---------------@ ngai & tina
http://www.mudah.my/Ladang+air+manis+sunga...ar-32180614.htm

i was looking for some houses in sub-urbs cuz simple prices goes up around sunway, but my income was naturally "steady". I hate my margin becoming lesser so i was doing some homework.

---------------@tina
about "invest" i will post some paraphrases later on

---------------@luffy
i agree biggrin.gif ... basicly instead of bible verses as devotional, i gave him new mindset to meditate. meditate my comments then being his devotional material

i am not salary man. I run business.

about other comments same like @tina, i will post some parapharses later on.

---------------@ngai
my contractor fren say most housing prices are in "bubbling" state, so experts cannot confirm next 5 years whatever we do today is equal with what happen to ppl who purchased housing back in 2010 / 2011...

So far with so many uncertainty, investing in church is the best options. but again,

to balance things... i ask HS


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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 9 2015, 10:10 AM)
---------------@ngai
my contractor fren say most housing prices are in "bubbling" state, so experts cannot confirm next 5 years whatever we do today is equal with what happen to ppl who purchased housing back in 2010 / 2011...
if you look at the history, 10-20 years, house price only go up one way biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 9 2015, 10:06 AM)
if you look at the history, 10-20 years, house price only go up one way  biggrin.gif
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If purchasing house as "home", not investment. then it's another reason.

car depreciates, so purchasing car, with loan, so for 10 years no more residual value... i think there should be some balance to think of

Back to house / property, oil prices just plummet. So i just want to make sure our investment are placed at right place to boom next 5 to 10 years biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(zhou86 @ Jan 8 2015, 02:55 PM)
Yeah, God willing, planning now...should be at Dec 2015. smile.gif

Any devotional material to recommend for pre-wedding couples?  blush.gif
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This will be exciting for you.

Marriage has to do with you putting Father God first and
Working out your marriage with fear and trembling. ( laugh.gif ....not exaggerating)

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 9 2015, 11:55 AM
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post Jan 9 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 9 2015, 09:10 AM)
---------------@ ngai & tina
http://www.mudah.my/Ladang+air+manis+sunga...ar-32180614.htm

i was looking for some houses in sub-urbs cuz simple prices goes up around sunway, but my income was naturally "steady". I hate my margin becoming lesser so i was doing some homework.

---------------@tina
about "invest" i will post some paraphrases later on

---------------@luffy
i agree biggrin.gif ... basicly instead of bible verses as devotional, i gave him new mindset to meditate. meditate my comments then being his devotional material

i am not salary man. I run business.

about other comments same like @tina, i will post some parapharses later on.

---------------@ngai
my contractor fren say most housing prices are in "bubbling" state, so experts cannot confirm next 5 years whatever we do today is equal with what happen to ppl who purchased housing back in 2010 / 2011...

So far with so many uncertainty, investing in church is the best options. but again,

to balance things... i ask HS
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i say they are just salary man not like you businessman rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 9 2015, 09:10 AM)
---------------@ ngai & tina
i was looking for some houses in sub-urbs cuz simple prices goes up around sunway, but my income was naturally "steady". I hate my margin becoming lesser so i was doing some homework.

---------------@tina
about "invest" i will post some paraphrases later on

---------------@luffy
i agree biggrin.gif ... basicly instead of bible verses as devotional, i gave him new mindset to meditate. meditate my comments then being his devotional material

i am not salary man. I run business.

about other comments same like @tina, i will post some parapharses later on.

---------------@ngai
my contractor fren say most housing prices are in "bubbling" state, so experts cannot confirm next 5 years whatever we do today is equal with what happen to ppl who purchased housing back in 2010 / 2011...

So far with so many uncertainty, investing in church is the best options. but again,

to balance things... i ask HS
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Dude, not everyone would buy and stay at a backwater area, unless they got no choice.

As a foreigner I read there's a new ruling since last year. I can't buy a landed property, unless its gated community property. The minimum purchase price for foreigners is RM2 million! It used to be around RM500k, then later RM1 million... sweat.gif

I bought a condo few years back for my own investment. I used it to rent it out to foreign students near some University.

Now, I'm staying with my cousin. Free. Hahaha...

But, I heard that properties in Sarawak are cheaper, you can buy a landed house for RM350K. So, if its really that cheap, I don't mind moving to East Malaysia.

I don't earn a fixed salary either. My income are based on commissions from my clients.

But I worked from home, so..no complaint there. hehehe...
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post Jan 9 2015, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 9 2015, 11:12 PM)
Dude, not everyone would buy and stay at a backwater area, unless they got no choice.

As a foreigner I read there's a new ruling since last year. I can't buy a landed property, unless its gated community property. The minimum purchase price for foreigners is RM2 million! It used to be around RM500k, then later RM1 million... sweat.gif

I bought a condo few years back for my own investment. I used it to rent it out to foreign students near some University.

Now, I'm staying with my cousin. Free. Hahaha...

But, I heard that properties in Sarawak are cheaper, you can buy a landed house for RM350K. So, if its really that cheap, I don't mind moving to East Malaysia.

I don't earn a fixed salary either. My income are based on commissions from my clients.

But I worked from home, so..no complaint there. hehehe...
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I didn't know that.
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post Jan 9 2015, 11:38 PM

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I didn't know that.
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Plus, different states have different land laws. sweat.gif

I can buy through a relative but the title transfer is a hassle.

I can also buy through MM2H (My Malaysia Second Home).

MM2H minimum requirement are:-

i) MM2H Applicants aged below 50 years old:
- Must place a Fixed Deposit in a bank account in Malaysia of RM300,000
- Can withdraw up to RM150,000 for the purchase of house, medical insurance or children’s education expenses after the deposit has been placed for one year
- Applicants can use their car purchase grant to withdraw part of their Fixed Deposit after two years.
- Must maintain a minimum balance of RM150,000 from second year onwards and throughout stay in Malaysia under this programme.

ii) MM2H Applicants aged 50 years and above:

- Must place a Fixed Deposit in a bank account in Malaysia of RM150,000
- Can withdraw up to RM50,000 of the fixed deposit after one year to purchase of house, medical insurance or children’s education expenses.
- Applicants can use their car purchase grant to withdraw part of their Fixed Deposit after two years.
Must maintain a minimum balance of RM100,000 throughout their stay in Malaysia under this programme.

iii) MM2H Applicants who have purchased a house (or houses) with a total value of RM1 million and above.
- Must show evidence of ownership and full payment of the property.
- Must have been purchased within 5 years of application for MM2H visa.
- Will have to place a Fixed Deposit in a bank account in Malaysia of RM150,000 if under 50, and RM100,000 if over 50.

You locals know la...buying a house ain't cheap.

And that's just about properties, I haven't talk about PR yet. That's another story.



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