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post Nov 27 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(anna.cf @ Nov 27 2014, 09:15 PM)
Talking about working in the secular world, any advice on how to actually live a Christian life in the workplace?

I had the most awkward conversation between my boss and me regarding working in the workplace. 

Well, he was being honest telling me that I needed to know how to not tell everything to my bosses, either act smart or basically telling me to 'lie'.

What does that make a difference becoming a salt and light to the world and on the other hand knowing how to cover my own butt if anything goes wrong?

It's so challenging.
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It depends from one person to another I suppose. Whenever I lie, I look for the truth within that lie, understanding one lying may get a person to the truth in a different angle.

It's a complicated philosophy that comprises of how painters tell the truth by painting lies (or also known as allegories). For example, a grass may be painted as blue, and not green, but to someone people, it must be painted in blue for him or her to look at the aforementioned grass in the first place. Only then will he understand why the grass can be painted in blue, even if the grass is really, actually green in our reality.

You can choose to not listen to me, as it is merely a personal opinion.

But know this, your guilt should guide you accordingly to when you know you've done something wrong, and the idea is to keep talking to people about it. I HAD TOO MANY PEOPLE trying to hide the truth from me by completely avoiding that topic of conversation, especially from CHRISTIAN SALESMEN. Too many Christians trying to sell dishonestly, and then go back to church on Sundays to relieve that guilt...while keeping quiet about it.

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post Dec 2 2014, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(anna.cf @ Nov 30 2014, 08:59 PM)
Another word for that is manipulating the situation? or just compromising that one shouldn't tell the truth because some other person will get hurt in the process. that depends on situation. but in this context, whereby it is the company's issue. how can i address it and how can i as a Christian behave and act accordingly? i'm stuck.

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It appears that you have made your choice. No, you're not stuck, just need more people to talk to you about this, or more importantly, to God about this.

The choice I've made was that I started using lies as paintings, as an artist would do in order to tell the truth. While there are also many truths that can be told, the LIE people tell themselves is that they cannot take it.

There are many people here would like to help you, anna, but remember to try to seek wisdom as a whole.

To sum it up, I am not telling you to go tell lies.

I'm telling you if you cannot tell a lie, you will eventually stop. This is the main reason why I've stopped being a salesperson, and went on with other jobs instead. However, by having the experience on how to lie to people, I've discovered the truth about people as well.

And henceforth, I am beginning to accept LIES as a part of my reality and life, and I am learning how to be able to tell from good to bad, from lies to the truth. This does not means I like to lie, but the truth is that many expect you to lie. If the truth is that one desires lies, than it may no longer be the truth if you were to reveal the truth to these people. They snap. The lies...have become their truth of life. This may means that you may not be allowed to completely honest to people you aren't close with, but seek wisdom among all of these. And yes, talk to God.

But hey, I stopped being a salesperson because of the very same question I had.

"Your father said artists use lies to tell the truth. But because you believed in it, you find something true about yourself."

Even right now I am not being completely honest with you, anna. I cannot, because you must first understand the "lies" are no necessarily "false".

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post Dec 20 2014, 06:38 AM

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I will say that the effects of rituals and "magic" are nothing more than the the effects of placebo and nocebo, where things happen to people simply because they believe in it. Just like how ineffective medicine can contribute to placebo cures, other ineffective, negative sources can contribute to nocebo symptoms/ailments as well.

Perhaps when this verse was uttered, it was so true that we didn't even realize that is already happening to us today, thinking that doctors have cured us, but in fact it was us who simply have faith in our own recoveries (with the opposite, nocebo, being exceptionally real as well):

"If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be uprooted and planted in the sea,' and it will obey you."

Sources of my thoughts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/psychogenic

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post Dec 27 2014, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 26 2014, 02:37 AM)
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Eh. I thought you main instrument only. tongue.gif
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post Dec 27 2014, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 27 2014, 10:32 PM)
Not pro singer leh just for fun only laugh.gif
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Last time I sang in church I curi attention only, cos' I terlalu semangat.

Nowadays I'll just control my enthusiasm during singing. tongue.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 29 2014, 10:45 AM)
no problem  smile.gif ... so what is your resolution for 2015 ?
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post Dec 29 2014, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 29 2014, 10:41 PM)
Even I have doubts about this whole business of speaking in tongues.
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post Dec 29 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 29 2014, 11:28 PM)
Mostly Pentecostal and Charismatic churches believe in "speaking in tongues".

Oh well, our "Resident Einstein" perhaps can reveal more should you be interested.  biggrin.gif
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post Jan 2 2015, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 31 2014, 09:17 AM)
Spritual warfare 101

When you something that's against your belief, like posting from ngai no 1535, versus my post 1530. Check with HS where is JESUS.

But... this is about belief, not GPS location.

Okay understand, it's paraphrases. Basicly, what JESUS wants, what JESUS thinks, it will rule. It is because JESUS rules (everything under GOD's feet - 1 Corinthians 15:27).

The religious spirit VS JESUS will, is demonstrated in ngai post 1535 versus my post 1530. This is a spiritual warfare.

How to win this ?
1. Spiritual warfare must be lead by JESUS himself.
Deuteronomy 20:4 - For the Lord your God is He Who goes with you to fight for you against your enemies to save you
Micah 2:13 - The One who breaks open the way will go up before them; they will break through the gate and go out. Their King will pass through before them, the LORD at their head."

2. It's never about me vs ngai
It's about "who is behind me" vs "who is behind ngai".
who is blinded ? me or ngai ?
who is wolf in sheeps clothing ? me or ngai ?

I believe behind me is JESUS.
but i believe, ngai is blinded. as simple as that. Who blinded ngai ? religious spirit.

Therefore

In the name of JESUS i cancel all posting that prohibits knowing more of JESUS will !
today by GOD's grace i bind anything that makes ngai blinded !
today by GOD's grace, i bind anything that separates ngai from experience more with JESUS.
In Jesus name.. Amen !


ngai, please keep posting things, so i can ask JESUS which spirit needs to be bind and break for you to be set free  rclxms.gif
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I better take this personally via PM instead. I rather listen to a discussion of ideas, not to a plethora of ad hominem.
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post Jan 6 2015, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 5 2015, 11:19 PM)
The Holy Spirit enables and gives each believer different gifting, yours could be prayer.

Yes every Christian should pray it is mandatory but really not every Christian knows how to pray or have the interest to pray.

Intercessors are specialize prayer specialist. It's a gift. They can spend hours in prayer. They're like a leader in prayer. When they pray in groups or for the congregation, sometime the way they pray move the heart of the people.

Divine burden is like something stirred in your heart, that you will not rest neither feel at rest until you do it. Just like your need to pray for your friends in tumblr.
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Divine burden.

This sounds just like some of my responsibilities I know what to do, but have not done so. Too many distractions, and too little faith in hand.

And I hated suffering, especially if its meant for me, for the straight path is sometimes too long.

Too many unanswered questions, too little time, and too vague.

I am close to believe that I am destined for nothing but sadness, so that others may learn from example. And if that is the truth, I once told myself that I did not mind dying in sadness, as long it gets to warn others.

Should I die in tears, may other tears be wiped from the faces of the faithful and the worthy.

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post Jan 6 2015, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 6 2015, 12:31 AM)
I believe, what is sanctioned in suffering for Christians, (as permitted by Father God) are persecution from people, being mocked and ridiculed for our faith.

Other than that, you are not to carry that burden alone but to commit everything in prayer to God (including your weaknesses) so that, there's opportunity for you to experience God's grace (favour) and power.

This is the meaning when Jesus said in

Matthew 11:28  - "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

The end result is rest because you gave God the opportunity to deliver you or your situation.
Christianity is really about partnership with God.
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Lol. That, UW, is exactly where I do not understand.

I was never more in tune with my spirituality compared to those I've heard, because I have a bad habit.

I am terribly impatient, and I cannot outgrow it. While I still have the faith to believe, there is always a certain limit of silence I can only bear, and I am impatient for anything that is good that will change.

God is real, but I begin to lose interest in the dialogue, and ignorance is swift for me.

And I am impatient for all meaning, unless I can start to see.

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post Jan 6 2015, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 6 2015, 12:57 AM)
Hey Bro, So am I.

I'm no different from most people.

I have terrible habits too, like fits of anger at times but you know what?

How is it that God is still graceful to me and still answers my prayer despite of my weakness?

Thing is, I've repented of my thoughts about God. My wrong view of who God is, is what is stopping God's grace. In other words I had the wrong type of believe or Faith about God if you will.

I used to think that God is still angry at me and I'm held under judgement until I get all my act sorted out. But that's far from the truth.

That's why I encourage you to take 1 day at a time, read the Bible, discover the truth for yourself, of who God is. When you repent of your view of who God is, when you have the right type of believe or Faith if you will.....your life will change. You will start seeing God.

The Bible says...It is the goodness of God that lead us to repentance. (Romans 2:4)

Not the wrath of God as most people would like to believe.
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Thanks.

May this be one of the blues, as easily fleeting as it is for joy.

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post Jan 7 2015, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 6 2015, 04:59 PM)
Bible Devotions with UW

Why Faith without works is dead?
Listen to this.

As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead. Simple but powerful truth.

What it means is this. If we don't practise our Faith practically, we're good as dead  spiritually.
The equation is parallel. For our Christian life to be vibrant it depends on how crucial, as to how far we practise our walk.

Faith without works will cause you to be spiritually dead. It is not just a matter of believing (the intangible). Practicality and Faith goes hand in hand.

So UW, what do you mean by practicality? Live your Christian Life practically. For example"

When you wake up, first thing you do, spend time with your heavenly Father in prayer, read his word. Read the Bible.
I would go as far to say, even 5 minutes a day is better than None at all. That is a divine truth. You can increase the time spend, as you get more intune to this.

When you're out of your home, remember to be kind to others. Love your enemies. If you drive, be humble and be kind to others.
The Holy Spirit says it like this. When you love your neighbours (surrounding people), you love God. This is the greatest walking the talk for a Christian.
It is the essence of practising your Faith with deeds. People may not know your kind deeds but hey God knows.

For whatever prayers you have entrusted to God. Be it your career, your finances, your partner, you marriage, your relationship, that new House or Car, whatever it is,
guard your words carefully. Don't pray with faith and then confess negatively in front of your friends or working colleagues.  What I mean is, don't contradict between what you
prayed for and what you say to others. Something like, God I believe and thank you for healing my this condition and in the next moment, in the course of conversation with someone, you say
I don't think I will be healed or I don't think God will hear me.

What I gave you as examples (above) are simple illustration of practising your Faith with deeds. It may be beyond these parameters or different.
Doesn't matter. What is important is that you understand, if you don't practise your Faith with works, your spiritual life is as good as dead.
I'm not saying this to scare you or discourage you. Just telling you, the Bible is never wrong.

And it's not just practising a few times here and there. It's everyday living. Everyday practising until it becomes part and parcel of your daily life.
One side of the coin in James 2:26 says that Faith without works is dead. It means the flipside is also true.
When you engage practising Faith with works consistently, Your Spiritual Life is guaranteed to be vibrant and alive and not only that. I believe you WILL experience the reality of God!
His grace, wisdom and power will be a reality in your life. It won't be just a matter of theory or concept but the living experience!

I write this devotion to reach out to Christians who feels that God is elusive and hard to experience. Now perhaps you know why you're not experiencing when you should as a believer.

Hope this helps you in your Christian life.

God Bless.
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Hmm. But I've missed church for months though. I have my reasons for not going back, and I wonder if that's my problem.
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post Jan 7 2015, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 7 2015, 09:20 PM)
I used to have problems with my life too. Too much clubbing, drinking, etc..

Then I found God again, so I started to go to church, cg and bible group.

So far so good. I have started this "Reading A Bible in a year plan". See how it goes.
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I prefer my day starts with the skies opened with beautiful clouds than to go to church and bible studies. I have always been a not-so religious person, so I have problems what it means to work with faith.
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post Jan 7 2015, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 7 2015, 09:32 PM)
Ah, so you are the type that likes "sunshine and city lights" and shunned the "doom and gloom" eh? Well, I used to be exactly like that.

I was not so religious and just want to enjoy my life, do my own thing, changed bf every other month, etc.

Now I have found faith, its not so easy. I didn't know what happened but SOMETHING had happened that CHANGED my life. Even my family got shocked. hehe..

Now I have no more tattoos, drink less (except Oktoberfest, hehe), swear less and I begin to take Christianity seriously.
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Nah. More like an idealistic geek who probably wants the same things as you do (more nature miracles than city lights though), but way more introverted. smile.gif

I quit going to church for the simplest of reasons...and that's not enough geeks/nerds around to have a conversation with. tongue.gif

So you guys can already see how it is difficult for me to have faith at times. I don't hang out with people in church, nor do I hang out with anyone who does not have at least 1 geeky hobby.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 7 2015, 09:57 PM)
You can try bigger churches like Calvary or DUMC or even Glads Tiding.

I'm sure they have more tech geeks there.

Going to Church doesn't save you but it'll strengthen your Faith through the sermons preached.
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But...it takes discipline to wake up on Sunday morning.

Oh well. No excuses I suppose.
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post Jan 8 2015, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 8 2015, 06:11 PM)
Dunno what pills ooo. Just knew she tried to kill herself and everything is so bleak to her.

Show care and concern also not really accepted. Felt like, everyone and everything betraying her kesian.
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Sigh. I have my times during depression as well, and as one becomes terribly depressed, it will become a drug, where it is more comfortable to choose gloom and depression over any opportunities for happiness. The only thing that snap me out of it is that usually the spiral of depression is always tiring, and it is way too tired to stay in depression.

I hope your friend do not just take the easy way out. Try to continue talking to her. People like her really needs people to talk to to, I've been there, I know (not to the point of being suicidal though).
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 8 2015, 07:00 PM)
I'll try to keep talking, but susah also. Because I'm a relative stranger. There are other friends who knew her longer and better. Hope that she can accept them lah, but fmjsgkhfjdsfkdslGhjdsfhds I dunno man....
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There are times I feel like dying, but one of the most effective way from stopping me from thinking like that was this:

"Even if I were to die sadly, I must make sure I'll make the people around me to be happy first. This way, it's better that I suffer alone, than to allow the people around me to suffer."

And with that thinking alone snapped me out of depression during those times, simply because I wanted to help people first before I die in vain. While it may sound like a sound and morbid technique to stay alive, it is one of my many ways to alleviate myself from sadness, that is, to at least provide happiness to others, so that my sadness will never reach/affect them.

Other than that, I suppose a lot of people have different painful experiences, and I don't intend to judge at all. I only wish that sometimes I should be helping out a suicide hotline before I die.

I dunno...maybe you can use this story the next time you talk to her, whichever helps.

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post Jan 8 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 8 2015, 09:10 PM)
But even till today, the Jews are still stubborn right?
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I actually have a question about this as well. All about their claims of the superiority of their Torah.

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 11 2015, 05:22 PM)
If got scammed meabs got holy spirit within or not? How to know gf got holy spirit inside? Why amoi in church also see your money wallet first? Why many amoi wear sexy outfit in church? Why ppl in church next to each other but not say hi?
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There's a simple answer to your questions.

People are not perfect, including the ones who are in church.

Being in church does not means better than anyone else.

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