Every Christian have the gift of Speaking/praying in tongues to the Father but
Not every Christian have the gift of speaking in tongues of other languages or to instruct another believer in tongues like a prophecy.

I would think it's a gifting if that person never spoke that language before.

If it's an ability, it's not a gifting.

as Christians, how do you guys interpret
GO and make disciples?

How come from english collonial can ended up a federal with moslem as official religion ? Can share me the historical material ?

there must be some activity by malaysian forefather to principalities in the air in order to secure whole semenanjung... i mean the gravity of whole semananjung in spritiual realm is not peanut size... look how many soul lost every day...

we won't fall into sin after we become a disciple?

Yes, temptation is always there and God will provide a way out. But when we choose to give in to temptation, this is where we fell into sin. The answer is yes, we will fall into sin after we become Christian. That's why we should confess our sin regularly. James 5: 16

v16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

and 1 john 1: 8-10

v8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

Well to be honest.
I really give up. I think you should to.

Yes I agree this is not RWI. At least people in RWI will read what you have written, read what you have said in context.
Over here, things you have written get twisted. Bible verses get twisted just to suit the agenda.

If you read UW last reply to me, you will know what I mean. It's a waste of time, effort, energy to point out the mistake. When UW cannot defend a point, he just conveniently skip it. It's a waste of my research and effort to be honest. He just do not have the decency to answer the critical points, twist verses and misrepresent other people and after a while, he and his gang will then start name calling you and say that you are hostile, etc. He keeps on assuming things. He keeps on assuming that I am preaching a kind of works based "after-salvation" when if you read what I posted, it's not at all.

I think you are starting to realize that he twist what people write, misquote scriptures, misinterpret scriptures(very obvious in his last reply), etc. The only reason why I even replied here is probably because of you. After all I understand your frustration and so I decided to provide support for you. It's amazing that at his age, he still frequently does all those things.

Well, the thing is, sometimes, if you read the bible without the influence of the surrounding theology influencing you, you may find that the theology that you subscribe to may not coincide with what the bible says.
For example, take John Macarthur for example. I do not agree with some of the thing he says for example lordship salvation and age of accountability(Children below certain age) will definitely be saved. I also feel that he is not critical enough of people such as John Piper who has obviously gone the wrong track and is also one I suspected a long time ago before his association with Rick Warren.

Look. In the bible, it's mentioned that we have to be as wise as serpents and as innocent as dove. When you make a mistake, the devil can punish you very severely. You probably know that integrity in today's world means less as compared to yesterday's world. You see, saying " refuse the grace of christ, then they will not be saved by God's wrath" can mean serious problems for you. The thing is yes, we should spread the Gospel whenever we have the opportunity and at the right timing as well. There are ways of going about it too. Sometimes, instead of directly telling your friends the truth, you could probably bring them to a church and get your fellow brothers or sisters to talk to them.

The thing is. Yes, you could probably tell your friends the Gospel, but then would you be able to do so in a convicted way. What if your friends ask you, what right do you have to say that only your God is the real true God. How are you going to answer back to them. The thing is, you can't really tell them that the bible says so or that history says so or that Science says so. The thing is, timing is also very crucial. Also how much trust that person has in you is crucial.

Yes, I do my best to show everyone that Christianity is the truth. When I go to funnerals, I do not bow or chant. And I explain to people why I do not do that. I question some of the customs that are being practised as well and show that those customs are pretty much illogical and in fact rude. My entire family pretty much knows that I am a Christian who do not compromise.

I question islam openly espacially on Shariah Law. So most of the people I associate with kinda get the idea that I do not really approve of their religion.I question also the illogicality of Hinduism.

You see, almost everyone knows that we Christians do not approve of their religion. But then when we say those things directly, the situation gets worse. We are seen as unreasonable. There is always a time for everything. Jesus did not begin his ministry until he was 30 years old. He waited for the right moment to do so. The thing is, he could have started his ministry when he was a kid.

Actually Jesus love sinners, but not all sinners
I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me,[ that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world,[c] I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept;[d] and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Jesus Prays for All Believers
20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will[e] believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. 26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”

A way of being a testimony towards God is to show love and concern to your friends and family. Also show your integrity. When people see that, then they will also see the truth in us.

Common Luffy, don't resort to that.

Hello

Well, we *can* agree to disagree on this, but it's an important principle that we need to establish before going on with many scriptural argument. I do understand that it might not be very clear to you because the textbook I'm using takes about 300 pages to establish a very basic understanding of the principles of interpreting the Bible. The best I can do is to point you towards the two books I recommended to you earlier.

"All these are included because When Jesus came, he did all there is. Healing, providing, protecting, Delivering, etc. That is Salvation manifested here on Earth unto Eternal Life in Heaven.
In the Old Testament, God demonstrated He have no problem blessing Abraham, Joseph, Job, David with abundance. So we can safely say, God has no problem with prosperity. If anyone have problem with this, you have problem against God blessing them. "

Yes, no doubt that when Jesus came, he healed the sick and he cast out demons, and my argument is not that healing is impossible today. Remember, what you originally said is that you believe that when Jesus died on the cross, he did it not only for our sins, but for our physical well being on this temporary earth. Also, note the problem in saying that "God blessed Abraham, therefore God can bless me equally too", you can't do that without examining the context of those blessings. Abraham was God's chosen patriach to carry out his great plan of salvation, God promised Abraham countless offsprings, are you going to say that God promises that ALL of us will have countless children as well? God gave Moses the power to perform wonders like splitting the red sea, does it mean that we as Christians can part oceans as well?

But first, I think it's best if I lay out my theology of sickness so that you can understand me with more clarity:
1. Diseases and sicknesses are symptoms of a fallen world. Who's fault is it that we live in a fallen world? Us, humanity. We sinned against God when he created us in his image, we pointed the middle finger at him when He deserved our worship.

Now, I'm training to become a healthcare professional, so I'm gonna use an analogy that I see fitting for this:

When you have a bacterial infection, your immune system sometimes raises the temperature of your body by resetting the hypothalamic thermostat in your brain so that the raised temperature can combat the infection. Now, the fever to you is a bad thing right? So what do you do? You take Panadol (paracetamol) tablets that lower your temperature. It cures the fever, but it doesn't kill the bacteria!
What does that have to do with this? Well, because diseases and sickness are most likely a result of a fallen world, and when Jesus did his ministry here on earth, he healed people and what he was doing was being like "panadol" in the case of a bacterial infection: he was dealing with the effects of sin. It also shows us the compassion of Jesus to the sick and the marginalized. But remember, we're talking about what his death and resurrection accomplished here, not what Jesus did during his time on earth.

The whole Bible has a common theme running from Genesis to Revelations, and a big indicator of what this is in Genesis 3:15, where God lays out the promise to destroy the "snake". And everything that unfolds after that is the build up to how God was going to gloriously defeating evil: By sending His only begotten son to die on the cross so that we may have life.

See, sin is the "infection", and God is his great love for us "Healed" us by taking away our sin on the cross! THAT is the point of the cross, to deal with the underlying problem in our humanity. And that also eventually means that diseases and sickness will pass away, but an essential part of this plan of God is that it's not over. Christ will come back in the last days and he will utterly crush satan and restore creation to it's original state (that's when there is no more sickness and no more suffering). But when Christ died, he died so that dead sinners (Eph 2) can be made alive in Christ!

Therefore, to say that Christ died so that we can have problem free lives is akin to saying that Christ died so that we will be in heaven RIGHT NOW (which we're not).

"Now that Christ came, he is restoring us to what was lost in Eden"

Yes! you yourself said it! He is "restoring" 'and  "restored" are two different things. We are not living on Eden YET. And because we aren't living in the "new jerusalem" (cf Revelations), we cannot expect to be without sickness or death.
Now for the bolded part of your quote:

I think we are in agreement in some parts here but here' what you need to see:

God is sovereign means that he is in control. Was he in control when ISIS was beheading people? Yes he was. Was he in control when Peter, his own disciple, was hung upside down on a cross? Yes he was. Was he in control when the romans beheaded Paul? Yes he was. Is he in control when you get diagnosed with diabetes? Yes he is. Is he in control when your whole family dies in a tragic aircraft crash? Yes he is.

To say that God isn't in control is to imply that God is NOT omnipotent. Even the open theists, who believe that it is impossible for God to know everything believe that he is in control because of his omnipotence.

But you agree with this because you say " God has ordain that it is that's person time to go. All the days of our live is written in God's Book. (Psalm 139:16 )
When it's time, it's time. God can use any way to usher us into Eternal Life, even if the devil wanted to do evil, He can turn it to good. "

EXACTLY! That is just how powerful God is and how the devil can't do anything to "surprise" him. We are told in the Bible that it was the doing of evil men to crucify the Messiah, yet God was so much more in control over the situation that he used this to gloriously demonstrate his great love for us. There are countless examples in the Bible whereby evil acts of men or the devil is used by God and allowed to happen so that God will reveal his glory even more!

That is what is meant when I say that we can trust God in our cancer! If we get cured, praise God! If we die, praise God! Because He knows best!

Think of Nick Vujicic: If you told him that true christianity = Christians who are physically healthy people, he would laugh at you: He prayed for God to give him limbs, but to no avail! And yet God uses him with his condition (we call it a curse because it's a disease) and blesses others with it! God uses Nick's impairment for the furtherance of his kingdom to places that no ordinary missionary would be allowed to go to. I might not agree with everything Nick has to say, but his whole life is an evidence as to why God's priorities isn't physical healing NOW for EVERYONE.

And he's not the only example. There are plenty of people who are diseased and sick, yet God uses them to accomplish his purpose.

So no, Jesus didn't die so that we may have "our best life now" or so that we will recover from any diseases that we are facing. He died because he wants to deal with the most serious problem with the human race: our sinful hearts. Yes, all these bad things will come to past, but not now. Yes, Jesus healed during his ministry on earth, but he didn't DIE so that the whole world may be physically healed.

Also, look at 1 Timothy 5:23 It's just a short statement Paul is saying to his beloved Timothy (Paul's spiritual son): Don't just drink water, drink some wine for your frequent stomach ailments. Notice how Paul, the "super apostle", doesn't say "In the name of Jesus I command your stomach problems to vanish". Why is that?

Yes, I understand. Doing good works does not guarantee a one way ticket to heaven. I'm still learning, reading bible verses. I can't believe I got so many different bibles in my house. I prefer NIV though.
Uh, I, er had bad experience with churches like this too. No offense.

what the dentist say?

Tattoo... Tattoo...

Can or cannot... at the end... caaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnn

http://blogs.christianpost.com/confident-c...oo-a-sin-12619/

so i assume you are not wearing t-shirt ? only nylon ? cuz bible say don't clothes from mixed material   

Deuteronomy 22:11
Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together.

Well, the truth is.

God uses reality to train us up. It hasn't reach the stage whereby the supernatural is dorminant.
God provides us with wisdom to deal with reality.

Yes, what is seen is temporarily(reality)
The unseen is eternal(spiritual)

The thing with you is. You think that just because you are in Christ, you do not think you have to live in reality anymore.
The fact is reality gets even real when you are in Christ.

Because we are in Christ, We have to undergo persecution etc. Things will no longer go as smoothly as before. We also get more attack from Satan. Things can actually get worse.

Christians in Islam countries even have to die in the name of Christ.

The thing is, through reality, we can also confirm our identity in Christ. When people persecute us because we speak the truth. When people persecute us because we reveal our identity in Christ, it just confirms even more that we are Children of God.
You think that because we are in Christ, we will proper(Things will get better)

The thing is, we will not. In fact, because we are in Christ, we may even be poorer for that(materialistically) because we use our resources to help those in need.

The thing is, the verse which you posted. Yes, we fix our eyes unseen. Not what is seen.
So that is why even though we may suffer from a materialistic point of view or even sometimes an emotional or social point of view,
we look forward because we focus on the eternal things.

Even though our friends or even family will insult us because of our belief. We may even lose dignity. We may even lose material things. But because we are in Christ, we perservere because we are holding on for the hope in the future.

The thing about you is, you are always on the view that God has to do things your way just because you have been saved. You make God your puppet rather then your lord.
Now there is a possibility that God would want a change in direction in your life. But then there is also a possibility that God wants to use the situation to train you up even more.

If there is a strong conviction in you that changing of direction is the way to go, then go for it. If not, then most likely you are just trying to convince yourself that this is the direction that you want to go when in fact God did not intend you to change direction.