cooling index R32 is 160 while R410 only 92. Japanese use top loader because they take a bath once a day or no sweat so no need front loader?

This post has been edited by leonhart88: May 18 2015, 12:00 PM

Cooling index means nothing basically.
I can put an 1 HP air cond that uses R32 in my 22*20 living hall and then condemn it is not cold at all.
Then I use a 2HP air cond that uses R410 in the same room and boast it is freaking cold.

To make it clear, medium used are not important, other factors need to be considered together.

it saves electricity liao. like kimsim uses R410A 2HP in a 10*10 room.

Japanese use top loader because they take a bath once a day or no sweat so no need front loader?

Basically the air cond we choose shall be under or over size. Both also got pros and cons.
Japanese using TL as it is more space savings, power efficient, most important safe time.

For me if you want to save electricity then choose R32 rather than inverter thingy
Logic failed. FL is more space savings since I can put under the kitchen top. FL also can use quick wash mode.

Only people that have no brain will keep a WM below kitchen.
And a FL quick wash can only wash 5-10% of its rated capacity. Like if I have 5KG of laundry to wash, if I were to use a FL that rated at 8KG, I need to wash 6 times. Then I can boast around like you saying my FL's washing my laundry very fast only 30 minutes. But I will always skip how many times I'm washing my laundry.
My logic never fails

Why you guy talk Aircon until washing machines? Any related to Aircon? Just the heat pump or inverter motor?
But washer don't have compressor wow..

Don't act like simpy simply add in washer here. Please lah

R32 gas in the beining just like before launched on R410a should be very less ppls would recommended or carry that model..

Also not much ppl would guarranty they installed won't leak after that..

Also how much mm thickening copper pipe they prefer to used?

Again how much cost they able to charge you guy?

How much you guy should pay for each unit installation cost on R32 after gas leak how much they charge you?

Anyway that is still in being..

Even green country like s'pore still prefer on R410a at the 1st..

In M'sia susah lah.. Ppls alway look at R22 like god Aircon and also thinking for budget in the 1st place..

If you were ask supersound bro what he would told you?

Using stand/ceiling fan should suit for thier sleeping as well.

Aircon is useless also concern on higher monthly bills

Perhaps the only sensible thing is to hold off R32 purchase until cooling only models arrives which may bring down the price. Current models seems to be cooling and heating. Don't think an average consumer is willing to fork out 3-4x equivalent.

I wouldn't buy R32 right now. Its uncommon which means not many people have the gas or even trained to handle it. Should anything happen you sure pay to the roof.

Like how R22 is still cheaper than R410A in Malaysia right now.

http://www.daikin.co.uk/binaries/3340_Intr...m511-342471.pdf

According to Daikin


Daikin says their R32 is 6% more efficient in a 4kW system compared to R410A. What do I deduce from that? The efficiency gains is miniscule and only observed in larger power draws. For small home use, 1HP air cond is below 1kW lah. So the power efficiency difference is drawing straws.

R410A won't be banned anytime soon. Use will only be restricted by year 2030 in the EU.

Who got air con using R32 here?

R32 cheap.pipe need 0.6mm thick.

When buying something, always consider maintenance and service first. Don't bother on the gas being used.

Best efficient for HVAC are using chiller system.
With chiller system you can get room temperature of 8-10°C

wan to ask...
i plan to buy non inverter 1.5hp aircon which use r410a gas at first
but then the salesman keep saying r22 is ok la
but i insist to buy use r410a one la..
told him tat if i buy r22.. then if next time.. the r22 aircon spoil dy
if i wan to install other air con will be troublesome.. since i ald stay inside
but then he said r22 aircon can use r410a pipe mah...
izit can do like this?

tqtq...

Just remember R410a gas do not mixed with R22 gas, can be caused by chemical else. Or spoil compressor or won't be cold as fast than normal

Also R22 gas Cooper can be used thicker than R410a gas, next time don't have a chance to be reused with R410a or R32 as well.

If you be a concealed into wall.

means.. the r22 aircond can install with r410a pipe~
but cannot use it anymore if i install r410 aircond next time?

Cause R22 installation fee was cheaper also use cheaper copper pipe and the thickness you should expected how much you pay for.

R410a gas Cooper would be much expansive cost need to avoid higher pressure and gas leak after that.

Avoid the shop, go to another shop. I do not recommend dealing with dishonest sellers.

My parents strictly say no to china brand air-cond...
So i think will decide to go for daikin adi...
How to differentiate between daikin GA or daikin thailand?
And which one is better?
Will go for d basic 1.0hp unit...

This post has been edited by Str33tBoY: May 19 2015, 05:41 PM

this 1 i know.. gt research before..
but i just dun und can r22 aircon install with r410a pipe?

i ald buy T_T
just haven install onli
may i know.. how s he dishonest?
izit the r22 aircon cnt install with r410a pipe?