I agree on this. Panasonic Inverter 1hp vs York Cooling King L 1hp.
25C on York is cooler than 23C on Pana... and the room with the York is bigger.

My personal experience.

I had Daikin Inverter 1hp (before York) in the same room before it was replaced by the Panasonic... the Daikin was also colder than the Panasonic on 25C vs 23C.

I am guessing Panasonic's 25C setting is not as cool as others because they want to win their claim as power efficient..

Inverter or Non-inverter? If your priority is best cooling, non inverter.. Daikin Cooling King L lor.. you want best power saving.. Pana inverter.. on Econavi..then you will sweat lah.. lol.

Midea is super cheap.. you pay peanuts you get....

Samsung..on paper spec damn keng wei..but I no experience.

I own York Cooling King L & Pana inverter...

3 air con for rooms, 1 for living room.

Budget is <RM1000 for each room. Biggest room is 3000mm x 4710mm.
Living room + dining area is 3000mm x 8210mm, but used sparingly - usually not around in the day.

For rooms:
1HP Midea Neola Inverter R410A RM999
1HP Panasonic CSPV9RKH Non-Inverter R410A RM928
1HP MHI SRK09CM R22 RM899
1HP Daikin Cooling King L R22 RM895

If the rooms are on R410A.. living room get 1.5hp Panasonic CSPV12RKH R410A RM1399. If rooms are on R22, then get the Daikin Cooling King L 1.5hp RM1138

Looking at the price, it makes no sense to go with R22 air con, the Panasonic CSPV9RKH 1HP R410A is only RM33 more than the cheapest R22 unit.

Brand new home..no existing piping.

Thoughts?

I was at homedec yesterday. From what I observed..prices are more than outside!

This post has been edited by Jason: May 2 2015, 12:22 PM

Don't see Daikin GA Inverter below RM1k for 1HP boss.


Exactly! Everything costs more there, from washers to fridges to air con. Daikin didn't even bother to list their price out. Probably cause its going to be ridiculously expensive.

True, but we can only afford what we can afford lah. I also concerned about fuel price, but cannot afford hybrid so drive a Perodua only lor.

So now, make lemonades with lemon lor.

Midea.. konon 2nd largest manufacturer in China, and using Toshiba-Carrier technology.

The girl promoting karaoke speakers in the first hall after you register is HOT. She's not for sale so can window shop her only,

This post has been edited by Jason: May 2 2015, 12:53 PM

Hahahah your friend damn funny!

In my current place, I was using the Pana deluxe inverter 1hp model.. not cold lah unless you set 22C or 23C.. now I change to sleep in another room.. Pana 1hp non-inverter..old model.. going to compare the electricity bill see how.. set 24C and its cooler than the Pana inverter @ 22C..and this room bigger some more!

I think Pana's inverter super power saving quite bullshit lah...they just program their aircon to save electricity 9 9.. for me.. installing air con is for cooling, power saving is secondary..if you want to save electricity..don't on air con lah!

Buy it. Brand new air con, with warranty, for the price. Can't be beat.
To save some electricity you can set timer to turn off around 4AM when its cooler in the wee hours of morning.

I used to do that, set timer to turn off my inverter air con around 5am, and I wake up ~7am not feeling hot at all.

Sharp compressor unit is smaller than York. My friend's house using York, except front master bedroom. Due to lack of space he chose Sharp because compressor smaller. Only then can fit.

So...based on that, if I had space for compressor unit I wouldn't choose Sharp. What are your criteria? If non-inverter, I will choose Daikin GA Cooling King L hands down, every time.

From what I gather from Singapore forums, ME is better than MHI. But MHI cheaper, and I can't find any info on MHI inverter units locally. Do share if you come across any.

Personally having tried Daikin non-GA Inverter (crap PCB burn out right after warranty), Panasonic Econavi super-power-saving-but-not-cold-so-wtf... my next choice would either be a Daikin GA inverter or ME Inverter one. Not worth risking other choices if you're shelling out top dollar.

Hisense RM5xx..versus Daikin Cooling King L RM8xx...
Gotta pay ~50% more for the Daikin....

If you're really on a budget..just whack the Hisense... got warranty mah..anything just claim lor. Then you can let us know how is it.

Not the Hitachi
Mitsubishi, Daikin, Pana.. I will choose the cheapest one with R410A gas.

This one Google confirm get answer lor.. .. That's like asking who is Jibby.

The PERFECT choice for YOU is the Panasonic Inverter Econavi air conditioner. It fits your requirements of silent and lowest impact on energy bill. With the Econavi feature turned on I don't think there's any air conditioner in the local market that can beat it. Of course, it won't be as cold which fits your requirement of not needing to be super cold.

I got my unit installed for RM1500. But I had an existing inverter air conditioner they replaced.

Nobody pays retail price one lah... Easily can find it for RM15xx with free delivery.
http://www.lazada.com.my/panasonic-10hp-pr...10a-939822.html

You look harder RM13xx also can find
http://www.jintexelectronics.com/index.php...roducts_id=1756

Maybe you should just put on a baby bib, and ask people spoon feed you la.

Point out your budget. Else we just wasting time suggesting.
Cheapest inverter air-conditioner is RM999, Midea.
Best for power savings, the Panasonic.

Electrical shops offers "all-in" pricing with installation included, you can ask around your area. RM2000.. you crazy.

I wouldn't buy R32 right now. Its uncommon which means not many people have the gas or even trained to handle it. Should anything happen you sure pay to the roof.

Like how R22 is still cheaper than R410A in Malaysia right now.

http://www.daikin.co.uk/binaries/3340_Intr...m511-342471.pdf

According to Daikin


Daikin says their R32 is 6% more efficient in a 4kW system compared to R410A. What do I deduce from that? The efficiency gains is miniscule and only observed in larger power draws. For small home use, 1HP air cond is below 1kW lah. So the power efficiency difference is drawing straws.

R410A won't be banned anytime soon. Use will only be restricted by year 2030 in the EU.

Who got air con using R32 here?

Avoid the shop, go to another shop. I do not recommend dealing with dishonest sellers.

Your original choice of purchasing a R410A air con is a good choice, since in future you can just plug and play R410A air conditioners. R22 is being phased out. Sure, you can install R410A air con using R22 pipes but it is wrong specification. Also the gas itself is different, don't think you can mix.

Just like how you can pour Minyak Masak Cap Helang into your car engine. Sure it won't explode, sure it can work for a while. But its not the right specification and bound to fail. You got to ask yourself, do you really want to do it?

This post has been edited by Jason: May 19 2015, 06:25 PM

walau, first salesperson lou dim u. now aircon man also tell you cock story ah?
diesel engine can use petrol or not? then answer your question lor.

Did you swap cars and test? It could be driving pattern.
Just like how the same air conditioner, in the same size room, can have very different power consumption based on usage pattern.

I think to summarize between R22 and R410A, very easy.. if you want cheap air con, seldom use, R22 lah. I also use R22 in my other home, I'm only there once every other month. No reason to get R410A or inverter there.

If you're moving into a new home, makes more sense for R410A as you need to lay out the copper pipes, especially true for concealed pipes, as R22 is being phased out.

that air con not cold 1 wor. power savings 9 9 lah.