Hmm, shall we have a list of foods for people who want to diet and for bodybuilders. Like how you cook it, steam it and etc. When there are alot of foods in the list, please consider to pin this thread up.

I will add all the foods in the list.

I only know some, still got alot more to learn.

- Rice (Small portion, half bowl for diet, 2 bowls for bodybuilders)
- Chicken breast (Steam style, apply some salt and ginger, or just salt.)
- Plain oat (For starter, add some raisins in it!)
- Green & Red vegetables (Such as Brocoli, carrot, salad vege (Eat raw, tasty sial! )
- Tuna sandwiches (Just plain tuna without mayonis. Remember to buy those tuna in water, not those tuna in oil. Add some cucumbers, and a little of chilli sauce (1 small teaspoon) will do.
- Fruits (The best recommended fruits are Oranges and Apples (Red & Green).
- Milk (Get HL Milk )
- Whey

- Combo* Oats + whey + HL milk + peanut butter or banana (All natural, no added sugar as ingredient), adding tuna is optional.
- Combo* Whey + HL milk + blended oats + raisin + apricot + almond + honey.
- Combo* Grill marinated slice beef + whole meal bread + peanut butter (the crunchy type) + a little bit of chill sause + vege.

This post has been edited by zeist: Sep 8 2006, 11:55 PM

whats with the small portion of rice?

zeist, nice list. But what's wrong with choc flavor for HL milk? I need it if my whey is vanilla.

And the rice, small bowl, i don't agree, if you're eating post workout, sometimes i take 2 bowls of rice. It's a good source of high GI carbs.

Anyway, overall a pretty good list.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Sep 7 2006, 09:27 PM

Ok, half bowl for diet and 2 bowls for bodybuilders.

Added the whey in the list too.

i dunno, half a bowl of rice per meal seems awfully light if youre eating the normal 3 meals per day. i dont micromanage my food and i dont count calories and such, do you get enough carbs per meal with that kind of diet to prevent muscle shrinking?

anyway, imo, one can lose fat weight while eating a full meal 3 times a day. i did. exercise and balanced diet > low carb diets.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Sep 7 2006, 09:54 PM

Yeah, i feel that at the end of the day, in the grand scheme of things, it's calories in vs out. Some people may call char kuay teow fattening, but if you eat one plate of that a day and nothing else, you're still gona be skinny.

And tuna, plain tuna in water, no matter how low in fat it is, if you eat 20 cans of it a day, you're still gonna be fat. Calories in vs out.

I feel apart from what you said which is important of course, nutrient timing is also a very important factor. So, it's calories in vs out + when you take those calories in.

regarding the tuna sandwich, try adding in avocado with a teaspoon of mayo.. i tell u.. delicious!!

i also drink HL milk.. but banana flavour.. yummy!!

peanut butter + instant oats + hot water. not that it's delicious or anything but it makes the oat more palatable.

and never mix tuna with milk, ever!

anymore oats recipe?

yuck!! tuan in milk!! yuck!! who invented that!?!?!

a spoon or two of condensed milk wif hot water and instant oats

yeah this works
this works well

er, a cat? coz they love both fish and milk?
LOL

for oats, I like mine with milk and honey. They taste nice that way

lol.. i actually lol-ed!! lol..

it's nice la, hl milk and tuna
it's the only way tuna can be eaten.

Ewww!!! Wtf is wrong with you?

Please don't tell me you tried it.

...so did you turn into a biological weapon after the milk+tuna combo?

No no dude. I think our friend Panadol meant blending tuna and milk together.

Well, i do eat milk and tuna, as in i swallow down chunks of tuna with milk instead of water cos of the added benefit of more protein but i don't know what you do.

lol, i don't mean that. i meant a bite of tuna + a gulp of milk. damn, tuna and milk blended!!!!

Oh... haha. Be mroe specific la.

Ok guys, try this, my fav bulking shake.

Oats, whey, milk and peanut butter OR banana (all natural, no added sugar as ingredient), ADDING TUNA IS OPTIONAL.

Btw, most of you don't realize this, but honey is like 50% of the post workout solution. Very good non fattening high GI carb to be added into the PWO shake.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Sep 7 2006, 11:08 PM

eh, can actually make a recipe out of this.

blender oats, milk, peanut butter, banana and ice cubes together (ADDING TUNA IS OPTIONAL). ultimate breakfast shake.

any idea where to get peanut butter without sugar and trans fat? lady's choice and all the likes do more harm than good.

last time i used to eat the grill marinated slice beef + whole meal bread + peanut butter (the crunchy type) + a little bit of chill sause + vege. Drink down with the whey prot + HLmilk + blended oats + raisin + apricot + almond + honey. This used to be my post workout meal.

This post has been edited by iDk: Sep 7 2006, 11:16 PM

That's ok, but for an immediate PWO shake, almonds aren't advised cos even though it's good fat in there, it slows down the absorption and digestion of protein.

yum... going to make some ON 100% choc mint + banana + weetbix soon.. hehehe

that's not the post workout shake, i took the whey shake after workout and shower and then only this meal. But it was the past.. now no more doing this, too expensive to be like that, i rather keep on eating outside for every 2~3 hours even through the food is not high in protein but cheap.

This post has been edited by iDk: Sep 7 2006, 11:35 PM

using a blender? wow.. never try that b4.. must try.. with ice cubes? man cold stuff is bad for health..

orgainc shop got those peanut butter, but they are freaking expensive.

Ermm.... not no trans fat, it dont have the hydrogenerated fat. And the sugar part, i'm not sure.. Those cost about rm20 per bottle.

here i got my own recipe

- 250 ml HL + 2 egg whites, beat the whites and mix, cover it by aluminium foil and steam for 25 minutes.

-a can Tuna + 3 whole egg. Dry the tuna, mix with eggs,cook it. spray some pepper and enjoy.

This post has been edited by kenyi: Sep 10 2006, 02:41 PM

Hmm, this one is like American Tau Fu Fah.



When you cook it? Do you apply oil or planta or something and cook? I have this thing that I can cook without using any oil whatsoever.

just wanna if cornflakes with milk is suitable as breakfast?

Yea ok, healthy food. Much better than those fried mee hoon, fried rice, fried eggs.

You might want to add 2 half boiled eggs, eat more.

Some people say that, scientific proven, eating 2 eggs daily (including the yolk) is not a big issue, is normal.

2 hhalf boiled eggs coupled with cornflakes and milk? is it too much in calories? i want to diet la.

Ops...

Cereal I think is ok, but get those plain cereal, those fruits cereal with raisins, i think is too sweet, so fattening lor.

half boiled egg cannot fully absorb the protein, do you know that? It is harder for you to digest also. Hard boiled egg is much better in term of protein absorption.

Hmm ok, tomorrow morning for breakfast, 2 hard boiled eggs.

But hard boiled eggs will make you full easily, so if want to whack so much of the egg white, have to eat in half boiled type ler.

how about coco crunch? i bought this cereal. is it different from the normal cereal?

This koko krunch is damn sweet, i whack before last time. I suggest you eat those Kellogs Frosties cereal or those Fruits & Raisins cereal, koko krunch is just like junkfood.

so, it is reli unsuitable as breakfast? hmm, ok, thanks, i will go to 7-11 to buy the normal cereal now.

one more question, guys, about the steamed chicken breast meat, can we eat it with sambal? is it fattening?

edit: forgot to ask, what is whey? what is it in bm or chinese?

This post has been edited by bidfordun: Sep 11 2006, 01:37 AM

Yea.. i use oil to cook it.

I think a little sambal is ok, I apply mayolite and ketchup.
"whey" is whey protein powder, protein supplement.

Not sure dude, but I think those cereal with fruits and raisins is definitely better. I'm gonna start eating this for my daily breakfast.

My first step of diet rules = No oily food

If I can control myself not taking any oily food first, i tried before many times, failed.

Sambal is definitely fattening, damn oily somemore.

Eat with some chilli sauce or tomato ketchup, but not too much.

for breakfast, oats and milk would be the best because oats have protein and that it does absorb fat to an extent.

So no need to pening bout breakfast

You're gonna crash and burn if you do this. I've seen it all too often. The more radical the change, hte greater the likelihood of failure. Especially when it comes to Malaysian food.

I don't know why some of you guys make cutting so complicated. Just eat a little less than what you're normally eating everyday. 3 tablespoons less rice from the plate, or one tablespoon less of oats in the morning, etc.

My weight is 80 kg and want to down to 75kg. I consume 5 tablespoon of oatmeal. Is it ok for me since i want to weight loss?

hmm, then is it fattening too, i mean the oat?

no, oats are not fattening per se.

it all depends to how much you consume, a non-fattening food can still make you fat if you eat too much and you can lose weight eating what you like/fattening foods if you eat in moderation while exercising.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Sep 12 2006, 03:50 AM

hmm, if like u said then, eat a lot of oat will be fattening too?

jeeez........
no.....

Anything taken in EXCESS will make you fat. The healthiest food, taken excessively, will make you godamnned fat.

Anything taken in moderation, will not make you fat, as long as suitable excercises are incorporated into your daily routine.

WTh's so hard to understand about this anyway? Take a tonne of milk daily, and sleep, you get fat. Take a tonne of cabbage and do nothing, you'll still get fat.
Take a kilo of fried pork, excercise like a dog, and you're okay.

egg white vs tuna vs chicken

I know egg white has the best protein absorbtion rate and also the cheapest but sucks in preparation(boil em, peel em.. messy)

canned tuna- 75 percent more expensive than egg white. maybe lower protein absorbtion rate. contain essential minerals.

chicken- never try yet. pls comment

whats the best protein food thats easy to prepare? other than whey.

unless you're taking raw celery.

This post has been edited by gsdfan: Sep 15 2006, 08:38 PM

I think you should eat all of them.
shouldn't rely on one source.

for me, the hard boiled egg is the easiest to prepare. Go search online how to cook and prepare the hard boiled egg correctly. There are tons of them out there, quick and easy, less than 10 minutes.

tuna can just get out of can.. Tune in water... easy..

eggs.. put in boiling water. wait 3-5 minutes. peels.. eat..

chicken.. u need to go to the market.. choose, go back wash, steam, put wat ever shit u like with it.. eat.. clean.. wash the wok.. damn trouble some

Try not to overload on tuna eh, as it contains mercury which is bad for you in excess. Eggs are good unless you have a cholesterol problem, then cut down on the yolks. Also you missed milk (although whey is from cow's milk), drinkin cartoned milk has zero preparation time, stick in a straw and suck it in.

How about raw egg? The image of Stallone in Rocky cracking 6 eggs into a mug and drinking all in one shot is still in my mind.

Those of you mentioning chicken breast, be sure it is skinless chicken breast. Skins are so fattening (except fish skin).

For cereals, can try those fruits and bran stuff (like Posts brand) instead of the children cereal like Koko Krunch, Coco Pops, Honey Star, etc.

Yah I have a question about the egg yolks - since they are high in cholesterol, does skipping them have any effect in protein absorption? Since I read the protein is all in the whites anyway.

And something about this thread - wouldn't food for dieters and bodybuilders be radically different anyway, in terms of (but not limited to) volume.

This post has been edited by Dannyl: Sep 19 2006, 02:12 PM

Hmm dunno about absorption but I'm pretty sure the whites does not contain all the protein... yolks have proteins as well.

absorption rate for protein is the best in solid form, which mean the egg suppose to cook it or boil it until the egg white become visible white colour. The best is hard boil it. For those raw egg, human body cannot fully absorb it as most of it will be wasted. That's why for those who drink so many raw egg white everyday, after drink so much still the same.

half boiled egg can or not?..coz mostly i go to chinese kopitiam there and call this....4 half boiled egg and 2pcs of bread...yeah..its so tasty and surely bettert han the cereal..yuck

you can eat half boiled eggs, theres nothing wrong with that. u just dont get as much protein/etc from half boiled eggs as you would fully cooked eggs.

Furthermore, half-boiled eggs taste like phlegm to me... And it's easier to separate the yolk of a hard-boiled egg than half-boiled egg.

I f***ing hate eggs. I know a lot of people will tell me they're a bodybuilder's best friend but they look like sperm to me. Most of my protein sources are from milk and whey. I'm not denying eggs have a great amino profile but yuck.

Aiyo that's why we prefer hard boiled eggs lah!

i like em fried

ahhahha...damn funny....
for me...if i want to eat anything that i hate.....close my eyes....hold my breath for a sec.....GULP!!!!
voila.......habis olredi



Chow.

im taking tuna in cans almost daily now to go with my sandwiches(as snacks). around a can off ayam brand tuna a day. how high is the mercury level in these tunas? is it too much that i should cut them down?