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post Jan 24 2016, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(shirogawawa @ Jan 24 2016, 10:14 PM)
What is hbm memory ?
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http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/softw...echnologies/hbm
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post Jan 25 2016, 01:37 AM

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Hi, im currently planning to get the ge72, just wondering is there any issue such as heating or what with this modal? Main purpose will be gaming. Any user kind to share their thoughts? Budget is around 4.5k
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post Jan 26 2016, 10:11 AM

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Bought msi pe70 yesterday. Wanna ask. When increase volume to max there's usually the 'ting' sound rite. Mine has extra flapping sound like fan hitting something sound coming out from the right side speaker. Anyone else having the problem?
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QUOTE(cslai89 @ Jan 26 2016, 10:11 AM)
Bought msi pe70 yesterday. Wanna ask. When increase volume to max there's usually the 'ting' sound rite. Mine has extra flapping sound like fan hitting something sound coming out from the right side speaker. Anyone else having the problem?
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I always crank up my pe70 6qe to max volume but never notice any abnormal sound.... Let me reconfirm tonite...

If it is obvious, better send to service center and let the expert to confirm.
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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ Jan 26 2016, 12:02 PM)
I always crank up my pe70 6qe to max volume but never notice any abnormal sound.... Let me reconfirm tonite...

If it is obvious, better send to service center and let the expert to confirm.
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Ok. Thanks. Most probably send for 1 to 1 exchange
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post Jan 27 2016, 11:29 AM

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Rainbow Six Siege Gaming Experience on GE62 Heroes version

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When speaking of Rainbow Six series, many often refer to Tom Clancy, an American novelist best known for his technically detailed espionage and military science stories set during and after the Cold War.


Tom Clancy, the Great Military Novelist and Expert in 20th Century

Seventeen of his novels were bestsellers, and more than 100 million copies of his books are in print. The movie “The Hunt for Red October” and “Clear and President Danger” reflect different situation of the world’s cold war generation. For FPS gaming, the famous “Rainbow Six” based the Squad of international military force, and “Ghost Recon” based on the Squad of US army.

Salute to Tom Clancy! (April 12, 1947 – October 1, 2013)
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Rainbow Six Series is a Legendary Cold War Squad Based FPS Games

In Rainbow Six, Team Rainbow is an international counter-terrorism operation hosted by NATO and funded by money funneled through the U.S. Department of the Interior. The latest game “Rainbow Six Siege” launched in December 2015 emphasized heavily on environmental destruction and cooperation between players.

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Rainbow Six Siege Runs Great on MSI Gaming Notebooks
Notebook I choose to test the gaming performance today is the GE62 Heroes of the Storm limited edition. I just love so much the special coating of this model. Two heroes on the notebook cover happen to be my favorite ones. GE62 Heroes of the Storm edition has an NVIDIA GeForce GTX970M on board, a very powerful discrete graphics card for all kinds of games (even heavy loading ones) playing under full HD resolution. Moreover, with this level of configuration, I supposed there should be no problem at all to continue using this piece to play all the heavy loading games for the next coming 2 years.

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Before getting into the “Rainbow Six Siege” and starting playing, remember to download the “Ultra HD Texture Pack” to get the best in game image quality. For those who play games with a 2.5K~4K external panel or on notebooks with a 3K/4K built-in panel, the pack is crucial for you to have greater image quality during gameplay.

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Setup Graphics Details for Best Image Quality
When entering the game, press F10 to go to the “Options” menu. You shall enter the built-in Benchmark mode of this game. It also shows the graphics name and the Video Memory. If Video Memory request exceeds your Graphics Memory, you could still play this game with higher setup and higher image quality. However, you might sense some jitter or low FPS rate during theme transitions or when in battlefields.

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The built-in Benchmark function and Graphics Memory info.

Show the Unique Gaming Style in Game
This game presents very good image quality and color contrasts. However, the reality of the texture and reflects is a bit lower than Battlefield 4 or COD: Advanced Warfare. Very good quality for gunshot and action. The overall gaming experience is good enough, better than most online FPS team battle games such as CS:GO or SF2.
When playing this game, users will have access to world’s most elite Special Forces units, the CSG9 from Germany, GIGN from France, Spetznaz from Russia, SAS from UK and FBI SWAT from US.

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Few modern shooters can match the heart-pounding exhilaration and immense strategic depth Siege achieves with its asymmetrical PvP. With five players per team and less resources support, every life suddenly feels meaningful and precious. Run-and-gun will almost certainly land you on the sidelines, so you're much better off using your drivable drone to scout ahead or coordinating with your teammates to ensure all sightlines are covered. You could feel how excited this game is!

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Rainbow Six Siege Runs Smoothly on GTX960M and Higher Graphics Platform
Here is a chart analyzing the FPS rate of different graphics cards from other MSI gaming notebooks with different GPUs when playing games. The GTX980 is so far the TOP configuration on can have in terms of mobile graphics card. Since the Benchmark Mode of this game is a rather simple environment, the FPS rate shall drop 60%~80%, depending on the number of units. According to this chart, the GTX960M shall run the benchmark smoothly. However, since playing this game involves connecting to different gamers online, I still suggest choosing a GTX965M or higher-powered graphics cards to have a smoother gaming experience and to be able to have more units in the same battlefield.

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post Jan 27 2016, 11:36 AM

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Rainbow Six Siege gaming experience on GE62 QA

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How to Setup the detail for Rainbow Six Siege game?

When entering the game, press F10 to go to the “Options” menu. With GTX980 / GTX980M could play at 4K resolution smoothly, the GTX970M I recommend to set Ultra quality, for GTX960M / GTX965M, I recommend to set Very High detail, for GTX950M/940M, I recommend to set High detail at Full HD resolution

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How is the gaming style on Rainbow Six Siege

This game presents very good image quality and color contrasts. However, the reality of the texture and reflects is a bit lower than Battlefield 4 or COD: Advanced Warfare. Very good quality for gunshot and action. The overall gaming experience is good enough, better than most online FPS team battle games such as CS:GO or SF2.
When playing this game, users will have access to world’s most elite Special Forces units, the CSG9 from Germany, GIGN from France, Spetznaz from Russia, SAS from UK and FBI SWAT from US.
Few modern shooters can match the heart-pounding exhilaration and immense strategic depth Siege achieves with its asymmetrical PvP. With five players per team and less resources support, every life suddenly feels meaningful and precious. Run-and-gun will almost certainly land you on the sidelines, so you're much better off using your drivable drone to scout ahead or coordinating with your teammates to ensure all sightlines are covered. You could feel how excited this game is!

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Can my GE series or GS series runs Rainbow Six Siege well?

The Benchmark Mode of this game is a rather simple environment, the FPS rate shall drop 60%~80%, depending on the number of units. According to this chart, the GTX960M shall run the benchmark smoothly. However, since playing this game involves connecting to different gamers online, as long as GE/GS series comes with GTX960M graphics or higher, your gaming notebook could run this game smoothly even with Ultra detail mode.

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post Jan 29 2016, 07:43 AM

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Nice TS. Looking forward to the Division. Anybody played it yet?
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QUOTE(raven143 @ Jan 29 2016, 07:43 AM)
Nice TS. Looking forward to the Division. Anybody played it yet?
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sign up the beta. download now.
- http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.com/game/en-us/beta/
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post Jan 30 2016, 05:46 PM

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Decided to downgrade to Windows 8.1. Agisoft Photoscan Pro aint working with Windows 10. It's a shame though.
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QUOTE(Michael_Lee @ Jan 20 2016, 08:10 PM)
Can you provide steps for solution for this? also im trying to understand "paging file a.k.a virtual memory i think"

Under Advance System Settings> System Properties ( Advanced ) > Settings > Advanced Tab >  Virtual Memory. How to i setting the correct value for this? Im using 8GB Ram and 250GB SSD
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I'm sorry for the late reply, please see: http://www.howtogeek.com/196238/how-big-sh...p-partition-be/ for a general discussion.

Uncheck "Automatically Manage" and instead set it to minimum 2000MB and maximum 8000MB. Let us know how you go. You can set the maximum to 16000MB but that might be unnecessary.

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QUOTE(shirogawawa @ Jan 24 2016, 10:14 PM)
What is hbm memory ?
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HBM2 memory will blow away GDDR5 VRAM (video memory) speeds:
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/221473-...ion-hbm2-memory

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QUOTE(raven143 @ Jan 21 2016, 08:51 AM)
on the side note, cant wait for Dx12 and Vulcan too. to some degree it'll help GPU intensive calculations.
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Yeah Vulcan is a little way off but DX12 will help a lot. The issue is PC game versions are still "second class" to console releases. Unlike things like Star Citizen which is PC-first, that's where we will see the best stuff for PC.

QUOTE(raven143 @ Jan 30 2016, 05:46 PM)
Decided to downgrade to Windows 8.1. Agisoft Photoscan Pro aint working with Windows 10. It's a shame though.
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I was having problems with Nvidia Optimus on Windows 10 but the latest Intel and Nvidia drivers are alright with Windows 10. Gaming and other stuff has been smooth. Photoshop was crashing recently but Nvidia released a driver fix. Haven't experienced any issues with individual software except for Daz 3D, VLC (some UI issues) and one or two other things.

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QUOTE(cslai89 @ Jan 26 2016, 03:11 PM)
Ok. Thanks. Most probably send for 1 to 1 exchange
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Manage to exchange?
I check and din notice any sound
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post Jan 30 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Dannyoski @ Jan 30 2016, 08:58 PM)
Manage to exchange?
I check and din notice any sound
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Hi. Sry for the slow updates but this few days dun have tat sound d. Anyway u got upgrade to m2 ssd?
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Hi,

I wanted to buy laptop and chose MSI PE70 6QE. Mostly for programming work, also for watching videos/movies and sometimes games. My goals for screen - good view angles, fast response and good black for video/games. But then I found out it has "bad" panel. Then I started to wonder whether I need this laptop. As I understand all the new Skylake PE70/PE60/GE72/GE62 6Q* have "bad" panel, while older 2Q* have "good" panel.

I wonder is panel of newer MSI notebooks is so bad I should avoid it? How bad it is? I'm not too picky about screen, but I'm gonna work at laptop a lot of time so I'd like to have screen that at least won't get in my way. Would gaming/movies on that panel be ok? Like no trails, good black? May be stick with older PE70 2QE (GE72 2QE has same panel?)? Or may be even other brand, seems e.g. ASUS ROG has both IPS and Skylake.

In other words people could say one panel is worse than other, but eventually I could see no difference looking at worse panel, right? smile.gif

And I wonder are IPS panels ok for games? I wanted to chose TN when I found out IPS aren't good for gaming. But gaming notebooks have IPS, so they should be ok?

PS. Such a headache to make a choice of such expensive item for me. Also don't have that notebooks in local store to go and stare at them. So good I've found this discussion about panels of new MSI notebooks, so small info on them. Thanks.
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QUOTE(demalexx @ Jan 31 2016, 01:05 AM)
Hi,

I wanted to buy laptop and chose MSI PE70 6QE. Mostly for programming work, also for watching videos/movies and sometimes games. My goals for screen - good view angles, fast response and good black for video/games. But then I found out it has "bad" panel. Then I started to wonder whether I need this laptop. As I understand all the new Skylake PE70/PE60/GE72/GE62 6Q* have "bad" panel, while older 2Q* have "good" panel.

I wonder is panel of newer MSI notebooks is so bad I should avoid it? How bad it is? I'm not too picky about screen, but I'm gonna work at laptop a lot of time so I'd like to have screen that at least won't get in my way. Would gaming/movies on that panel be ok? Like no trails, good black? May be stick with older PE70 2QE (GE72 2QE has same panel?)? Or may be even other brand, seems e.g. ASUS ROG has both IPS and Skylake.

In other words people could say one panel is worse than other, but eventually I could see no difference looking at worse panel, right? smile.gif

And I wonder are IPS panels ok for games? I wanted to chose TN when I found out IPS aren't good for gaming. But gaming notebooks have IPS, so they should be ok?

PS. Such a headache to make a choice of such expensive item for me. Also don't have that notebooks in local store to go and stare at them. So good I've found this discussion about panels of new MSI notebooks, so small info on them. Thanks.
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you wont few much different if not compare side by side.

But if panel really matter, why not go shop ask them check the type before purchase.

Or get an external LCD then issue solve.

good panel type
http://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Best-Note...k.120541.0.html

FYI, mine 2QE is using SDC324C. but best is still need calibrate by external devise for best color reproduction, like syper data color
http://spyder.datacolor.com/portfolio-view/spydercheckr/

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QUOTE(demalexx @ Jan 31 2016, 01:05 AM)
Hi,

I wanted to buy laptop and chose MSI PE70 6QE. Mostly for programming work, also for watching videos/movies and sometimes games. My goals for screen - good view angles, fast response and good black for video/games. But then I found out it has "bad" panel. Then I started to wonder whether I need this laptop. As I understand all the new Skylake PE70/PE60/GE72/GE62 6Q* have "bad" panel, while older 2Q* have "good" panel.

I wonder is panel of newer MSI notebooks is so bad I should avoid it? How bad it is? I'm not too picky about screen, but I'm gonna work at laptop a lot of time so I'd like to have screen that at least won't get in my way. Would gaming/movies on that panel be ok? Like no trails, good black? May be stick with older PE70 2QE (GE72 2QE has same panel?)? Or may be even other brand, seems e.g. ASUS ROG has both IPS and Skylake.

In other words people could say one panel is worse than other, but eventually I could see no difference looking at worse panel, right? smile.gif

And I wonder are IPS panels ok for games? I wanted to chose TN when I found out IPS aren't good for gaming. But gaming notebooks have IPS, so they should be ok?

PS. Such a headache to make a choice of such expensive item for me. Also don't have that notebooks in local store to go and stare at them. So good I've found this discussion about panels of new MSI notebooks, so small info on them. Thanks.
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If for gd viewing angles it's better if u opt for ips. As I'm using pe70 only looks ok if u look directly at it. For movie wise it's still Gd n the speakers r acceptable. Price increase by 100 d now I think. Try looking at each computer. Gaming brightstar at lowyat can c msi/rog/dell 7559/ Lenovo. If not tech armory?
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QUOTE(demalexx @ Jan 31 2016, 01:05 AM)
Hi,

I wanted to buy laptop and chose MSI PE70 6QE. Mostly for programming work, also for watching videos/movies and sometimes games. My goals for screen - good view angles, fast response and good black for video/games. But then I found out it has "bad" panel. Then I started to wonder whether I need this laptop. As I understand all the new Skylake PE70/PE60/GE72/GE62 6Q* have "bad" panel, while older 2Q* have "good" panel.

I wonder is panel of newer MSI notebooks is so bad I should avoid it? How bad it is? I'm not too picky about screen, but I'm gonna work at laptop a lot of time so I'd like to have screen that at least won't get in my way. Would gaming/movies on that panel be ok? Like no trails, good black? May be stick with older PE70 2QE (GE72 2QE has same panel?)? Or may be even other brand, seems e.g. ASUS ROG has both IPS and Skylake.

In other words people could say one panel is worse than other, but eventually I could see no difference looking at worse panel, right? smile.gif

And I wonder are IPS panels ok for games? I wanted to chose TN when I found out IPS aren't good for gaming. But gaming notebooks have IPS, so they should be ok?

PS. Such a headache to make a choice of such expensive item for me. Also don't have that notebooks in local store to go and stare at them. So good I've found this discussion about panels of new MSI notebooks, so small info on them. Thanks.
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Why not Lenovo y700 or Acer v .nitro ?
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QUOTE(cslai89 @ Jan 30 2016, 11:30 PM)
Hi. Sry for the slow updates but this few days dun have tat sound d. Anyway u got upgrade to m2 ssd?
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Yes, added Samsung 950 pro 256G m.2 2280 pcie3.0 x 4 lanes on top of my Samsung 850 evo 250G sata ssd and micron 512G ssd.

Window boot time shorten from 16sec to 11sec.

Certain small program can open faster than my eye blink. Overall experience I would say worth the upgrade.
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QUOTE(demalexx @ Jan 31 2016, 01:05 AM)
Hi,

I wanted to buy laptop and chose MSI PE70 6QE. Mostly for programming work, also for watching videos/movies and sometimes games. My goals for screen - good view angles, fast response and good black for video/games. But then I found out it has "bad" panel. Then I started to wonder whether I need this laptop. As I understand all the new Skylake PE70/PE60/GE72/GE62 6Q* have "bad" panel, while older 2Q* have "good" panel.

I wonder is panel of newer MSI notebooks is so bad I should avoid it? How bad it is? I'm not too picky about screen, but I'm gonna work at laptop a lot of time so I'd like to have screen that at least won't get in my way. Would gaming/movies on that panel be ok? Like no trails, good black? May be stick with older PE70 2QE (GE72 2QE has same panel?)? Or may be even other brand, seems e.g. ASUS ROG has both IPS and Skylake.

In other words people could say one panel is worse than other, but eventually I could see no difference looking at worse panel, right? smile.gif

And I wonder are IPS panels ok for games? I wanted to chose TN when I found out IPS aren't good for gaming. But gaming notebooks have IPS, so they should be ok?

PS. Such a headache to make a choice of such expensive item for me. Also don't have that notebooks in local store to go and stare at them. So good I've found this discussion about panels of new MSI notebooks, so small info on them. Thanks.
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I'm using pe70 6qe. I'm quite satisfy with it for the money I'm paying for. At first by not knowing it's an IPS panel n din pay attention to it. I got my photography works went wrong but after tilted to the right angel and I found the picture quality is not bad at all. Infact it perform better than my 2 external IPS panel fhd n 4k monitor when working on the sweetspot. And no more complaint afterward since I'm not moving my angle or level a lots.

All my 3 display without calibration.

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