Indeed. Flip It To Win It! When in doubt, fresh install ...For my GP62 2QE Leopard Pro I used the Windows 10 Home Single Language (English Internation) ISO and it will recognise the BIOS Windows key automatically.

Lord willing I will get my 256GB M2 after one (or more) successful projects. But for now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JVNMmsN3Co

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Nov 4 2015, 03:47 PM

I prefer 256GB SSD, because I also like having 16GB to 32GB of swap space on SSD plus space for Hibernate files. And I have lots and lots of apps to put on SSD...

But indeed, for game files, don't put it on the SSD, except for the game you are actively playing (loading the game, etc. will be really fast).

Cheers!

I think the very latest GE62 15" with Skylake, DDR4, Nvidia 960M or 965M with 2GB GDDR5 is looking good. As for where to buy it I can only recommend my regular shop at MidValley, "I-Tec", 2nd floor. They mainly have accessories but have several MSI laptop models set up there and the staff are quite nice.

Be sure to upgrade to a (at least) 128GB SSD when you have the budget, it makes a massive difference. 8GB RAM would be preferable too if the model you get comes with only 4GB. Again, I think you can upgrade the RAM as and when you have the budget.

That's what's nice, go for the Skylake i7 and Nvidia 960M or better, then as and when you have more funds get the SSD and more RAM. Personally, I think 16GB of RAM would be overkill, 8GB is enough for most apps and games especially if you have an SSD as your C drive.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Nov 9 2015, 12:22 PM

Hey about RM 4,400 to RM 4,500 ...Not sure how legit these links are but I'm sure the official MSI poster can comment here on the thread:
http://cforum2.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=v...ead&tid=3765845
http://www.ncs.com.my/show_detail.php?g_pa...d=573&g_main=23

You'll need to put the Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 (must be the right OEM .iso instead of Retail, in most cases) on a USB then reinstall from USB. As for MSI drivers and utilities that's usually available on the MSI website.

Yeah I wouldn't worry about Hibernate. As for shortening the SSD life, I've never "used up" an SSD before even after a few years.

That said, one shouldn't keep running SSD tests or actually "defrag" the SSD. However Auslogics "Disk Defragmenter" has a nice SSD-compatible optimisation etc. thing.

Indeed, with a good SSD, fast i7 CPU, and 12GB or more RAM, fresh install of Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, it flies.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Nov 11 2015, 07:28 PM

If you're going to get a good deal on a Broadlake (Intel 5th Gen), I would say go for it. Not too much difference with Skylake (Intel 6th Gen) unless of course you want the latest & greatest, which is cool too.

Praise God, I haven't faced any issues yet this past month or so (it's a new unit), as such I don't know.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Nov 16 2015, 06:13 PM

Hi, see above, what is your HD and RAM configuration? Laggy in games or Windows? Both?

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Nov 16 2015, 06:11 PM

Personally I suggest upgrade to Windows 10, install the latest drivers from MSI.com, install say Avira Free, do a virus scan. If you're still facing issues then I think an 128GB SSD will make a huge difference especially if you only have 4GB of RAM.

The current MSI configurations are nice in terms of the Broadwell and Skylake models, as well as Nvidia cards for a reasonable (but pity about the RM weakness) price.

But an 128GB SSD and 4GB of RAM to bring it to 8GB is a worthwhile investment to get the most out of it.

Basically I can "downclock" (through Windows Power Options) my Haswell Core i5 to 2.6GHZ max, use Intel only graphics, and still have everything except 3D stuff smooth, and in air-conditioning the fan goes silent from time to time as well! But I did put in an M.2 SSD (256GB, but 128GB is fine, ADATA brand), and have 8GB of RAM. (Mine is previous-generation GP62 2QE Leopard Pro).

Basically with an SSD Windows 10 operates smooth like butter, just ask anyone here ...I would say if you are still having issues upgrade to SSD first, then upgrade the RAM if you still need more smoothness.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Nov 16 2015, 06:21 PM

I went nuts and bought ADATA 16GB of RAM on 11Street.my: http://www.11street.my/productdetail/adata...ltage-so-303031

There's also that Maybank 11% discount thingy as well: http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p.../PRO-Promotions

Not sure if one will have the opportunity in the next few months to get 16GB of DDR3L RAM for less than RM 400.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Nov 16 2015, 06:27 PM

MSI "True Color" application on PE line AFAIK and have seen at the shop is a simple "out-of-the-box-just-works" "color-calibration" thingy. AFAIK you shouldn't be seeing the red tint in the PE line, but the GE and GP line you'd have to do some color calibration:

To really check the colors and tweak it you would need something like a Datacolor Spyder Pro. What most people see in real life on uncalibrated monitor screens is, as you suspect, very incorrect colors, one needs to calibrate using a ~hardware~ device such as Datacolor, ColorMunki, etc.

This is the case whereby if you are or know graphic designers or photographers... we will spend hours arguing with clients or each other about whether a green is "lime green" or "lime green with a dash of forest fragrance green". We will then get extremely furious because on everyone else's (usually uncalibrated) monitors, especially laptop monitors, the colours will usually look nothing like what's on a calibrated screen. Then on a Samsung OLED screen, the colours are extremely brain-piercing and oversaturated, but that's what consumers enjoy.

Anyway, if you don't have a hardware device, perhaps try the Lagom online calibration tool: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

A warning though, you might get even more upset at your display after using the above! ...But it may help you adjust settings like removing red or blue hues, etc. without having to go all the way with replacing/ refunding your screen (not to say that you shouldn't do that if you feel that's the right thing to do).

I'll have more information on my particular GP62 Leopard Pro (Haswell) "CMN15D2" screen. It's quite a bizarre one, and I'll explain shortly why.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 7 2015, 11:29 AM

Can you confirm the Malaysian online specification? If the online and brochure specification is different from the unit you got then that is clearly false advertising/ poor trade practice etc. For a company like MSI I'm sure they will address this grievance, it's quite serious, especially if an IPS panel is promised but you don't get an IPS panel. That's very serious, in fact.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 7 2015, 11:31 AM

I've noticed that in other gaming laptops as well. I stayed away from the Asus 551 and 552 this round because of what I thought were sub-par displays. The Gigabyte gaming laptop has a nice IPS screen, and Skylake.

As for MSI, you'll have to look at the actual screens carefully.

Very strange... My GP62 Leopard Pro (Haswell), is a wide-gamut RGB screen (the mysterious CMN15x screen ("CMN15D2"))... rare in consumer LCD screens, let alone laptops.

Pros: The colours are unbelievably good. Viewing angle is good. Everything looks awesome in "bright scenes" or scenes which are predominantly "bright" eg. "daytime" in a game.

Cons: The black levels (due to backlight "bleed") is really quite bad. Very noticeable in "dark scenes". This is probably a dealbreaker for most people, so be sure to CHECK THIS AT THE MSI SHOP for the laptop you're interested in.

Anyway, for various reasons I am keeping my laptop and still like it. One of the reasons is it was a trade that needed to be made quite quickly so I'll have to #dealwithit

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Colour Analysis (measured with Datacolor Spyder Pro 4)
(see later post with corrected colour graphs)

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 13 2015, 10:27 PM

One thing though the form factor of the Y700... The CPU is most likely going to throttle a lot.

Be sure to check if your model can sustain X GHZ over hours of heavy CPU and GPU use.

MSI Cooler Boost at maximum can be noisy but helps a lot with keeping temperatures manageable, reducing the possibility of throttling without having some super massive heat sink and cooler.

Be aware too that laptops do not always have Turbo Boost to the two or four core GHZ maximum all the time, that's why Turbo Boost speeds are not guaranteed, only the rated speed.

But yeah in the RM 4 to 5 thousand range currently one has to weigh the compromises. Nonetheless the Maxwell Nvidia and Intel Skylake with M2 SSD and DDR4 RAM... this is some really good tech.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 9 2015, 09:09 PM

Edit: I made some wrong graphics about the color gamut of GP62 Leopard Pro (Haswell). Will post corrected ones here shortly.

This is the screen color gamut (in wireframe) compared to SRGB (in solid). The screen has MORE colours than SRGB.



This is the screen color gamut (in solid) compared to iMac 4K/5K P3 (in wireframe). The screen has slightly LESS colours than P3.



This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 13 2015, 10:24 PM

I bought a Spyder4Pro a while back and Praise God it's still going strong. Honestly, I cannot imagine using any laptop without calibrating it with a Spyder or equivalent. The difference is massive.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 15 2015, 12:43 PM

I got an Adata 256GB. Very happy with it. I don't see how I would need anything faster. And to share, I also got Adata 16GB RAM. Also very happy with it.

Hi, it is definitely the HDD. An SSD even with 4GB of RAM will make a huge difference. Also antivirus and other software as the other poster mentioned makes a big difference. I removed all antivirus software, just using a firewall, VPN from time-to-time, and running the Trend Micro Housecall portable scanner from time-to-time. Avast, Trend, etc. running all the time, I just didn't like the system resources it was using.

I do suggest save up for the SSD first, that is more important than RAM unless you have specific RAM-heavy applications. Right now if you look at your HDD light on the laptop you will probably see it constantly flashing, ie. Windows 10, MS Office, Web browsing etc. IMO is usually all very hard disk intensive not really RAM intensive.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 17 2015, 02:03 PM

MSI SCREEN QUALITY MYSTERY SOLVED?
It says "IPS Level Panel" <-- This means IPS panel is NOT guaranteed?

"15.6" Full HD (1920 x 1080), Wide-viewing angle, IPS level panel "

In the specifications it says IPS-quality not guaranteeing IPS. This could explain why one may not get an IPS panel per se: http://my.msi.com/product/notebook/GE62-6Q...o-specification

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 17 2015, 02:00 PM

Ah, I think the video player is using the Nvidia GPU not the Intel GPU. Video players have a "hardware acceleration" option that will use the Nvidia GPU to give smooth video playback.

Try to set the video player to use the Intel GPU if using GPU acceleration, or set the video player to turn OFF the GPU acceleration (hence just use some CPU to playback video).

Are you using an SSD and at have at least 8GB of RAM? To be honest, with an SSD, Windows 10 is very fast and smooth... and the Windows 10 drivers are probably more suited for the latest hardware.

Personally I have no idea what I would even do with an RGB backlit keyboard. ...Is it mainly for MOBA?

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 23 2015, 02:58 PM

Fresh install is nice

Just need MSI SCM and Dragon Gaming Centre. Antivirus probably causes the most "grinding" and slowdown.

Praise God I managed to get ADATA M.2 256GB for just over RM 400 before the prices went up (due to the currency thing).

That said for RM 500 Samsung Evo probably gives good value for money, I've heard good things about it?

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Dec 31 2015, 03:37 PM

Congratulations! May you enjoy it! Check out Auslogics Disk Defrag which has optimisation for SSD including "proper"(?) TRIM.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Jan 5 2016, 01:19 PM

The Nvidia 950M series and above(Maxwell) is pretty impressive. I'm looking forward to Nvidia Pascal, the estimated boost at the same wattage is 50% (they claim 100% but that's for some CUDA-specific stuff).

It appears all the Maxwell cards support CUDA and lots of older cards too:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology.../supported-gpus

Realistically however the CUDA applications that one would commonly use is Blender 3D Cycles and Daz3D IRay - 3D rendering with GPU CUDA is very much accelerated nowadays.

The super-awesome increase in CUDA performance for Pascal appears to be CUDA applications that revolve around "deep learning" and "artificial intelligence" stuff.

Nonetheless for games and CUDA 3D rendering I hope, no, expect, Pascal to deliver at least 25%-50% improvement at same wattage - at least for those GPUs which have HBM (high bandwidth memory 3D memory thingy) attached because not only is that using Pascal GPU architecture but will have access to this super-fast GPU memory, way beyond GDDR5 speeds.