Developer : Sin Heap Lee
Price : from RM728k
Size : 22x75, 22x80, 2391sf
http://www.shlcb.com.my/goodview_main.html
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Sep 18 2014, 10:53 PM, updated 10y ago
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Discover this DSL freehold project when I visit to Semenyih today, any sifu here familiar with this project and developer? Appreciate if you willing to share your valuable opinion.
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Sep 18 2014, 10:53 PM) Discover this DSL freehold project when I visit to Semenyih today, any sifu here familiar with this project and developer? Appreciate if you willing to share your valuable opinion. sifu gor, open 1 threads alreadyDeveloper : Sin Heap Lee Price : from RM728k Size : 22x75, 22x80, 2391sf http://www.shlcb.com.my/goodview_main.html |
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Ok ok! I close it
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So sungei long south = semenyih?
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please continue our discussion here as the other 1 already temporary close by some1 who acting like a mod. i love 2 read this topic.
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My friend ended up pay deposit at Goodview after visit and compare with Eco Majestic.
Reason being, 1) Location 2) Unit layout |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Sep 22 2014, 05:29 PM) Haha near there laOh the one that same size but expensive rm8000 kah? That one new launching already sold out, probably because the back lane facing tall wall I guess got ppl loan rejected |
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[quote=enriquelee,Sep 22 2014, 04:19 PM]
My friend ended up pay deposit at Goodview after visit and compare with Eco Majestic. Reason being, 1) Location 2) Unit layout [/quote Goodview weak point is need to make big u-turn if come from Aeon Cheras Selatan. For the layout, i dun like the maid room and the extra bathroom beside the maid room. It makes the kitchen smaller. Overall it is still a good buy. |
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[quote=colarboy,Sep 22 2014, 06:03 PM]
[quote=enriquelee,Sep 22 2014, 04:19 PM] My friend ended up pay deposit at Goodview after visit and compare with Eco Majestic. Reason being, 1) Location 2) Unit layout [/quote Goodview weak point is need to make big u-turn if come from Aeon Cheras Selatan. For the layout, i dun like the maid room and the extra bathroom beside the maid room. It makes the kitchen smaller. Overall it is still a good buy. [/quote] Yes. The u turn is more than 10km after the Sg long toll. The ceiling height at 1st floor is like |
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QUOTE(manapergi @ Sep 18 2014, 11:58 PM) Donno ! Jolokia don't use Jolokia avatar, but Not Jolokia like to use Jolokia avatar. If cannot afford Goodview Height can always buy Goodview Residence which is much more convinient & Cheaper. Hey Bear2 consider buy Goodview Residence lah,, Cheap2 niah 699K corner lot 535K intermediate. |
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 22 2014, 06:30 PM) Donno ! Jolokia don't use Jolokia avatar, but Not Jolokia like to use Jolokia avatar. What is jolokia? If cannot afford Goodview Height can always buy Goodview Residence which is much more convinient & Cheaper. Hey Bear2 consider buy Goodview Residence lah,, Cheap2 niah 699K corner lot 535K intermediate. |
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congratulation to SHL yet again project with high entry 730k cash , and still draws sales, just like Palm walk 3 selling 550k..
looks like own stay will be the majority here another bandar mahkota cheras/sg long in the making.. |
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Any news when phase 2 coming? This better or tropicana phase 2 better, the price may be quite close
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Sep 22 2014, 06:21 PM) Yes. The u turn is more than 10km after the Sg long toll. Wonder if they will make traffic lights to allow turn right in front of the 1st guard house, really far need to male uturnThe ceiling height at 1st floor is like :shock: Really nice, just need to pay extra cost for Aircond. |
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Sep 22 2014, 07:22 PM) Wonder if they will make traffic lights to allow turn right in front of the 1st guard house, really far need to male uturn this one if not stated means very low chance.. having said that maybe on the way back take cheras kajang highway, then pass throught TTDI and take the ramp to sg long, you will arrive back on the other side of the road, same direction you going to KL |
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Sep 22 2014, 07:22 PM) Wonder if they will make traffic lights to allow turn right in front of the 1st guard house, really far need to male uturn Good idea, but i think unlikely b'cos this is highway. Just FYI, new proposed highway EKVE will have one exit between Twin Palms and Goodview. |
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Sep 22 2014, 07:22 PM) Wonder if they will make traffic lights to allow turn right in front of the 1st guard house, really far need to male uturn Maybe developer don't want to build nearest u turn cos prevent residents kajang perdana and ttdi to by pass gd view height . Heard there have proposed link road to twin palm from saujana but twin palm developer / residents not allow the link road connect to the twin palm site.This post has been edited by danielisme: Sep 22 2014, 10:05 PM |
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QUOTE(danielisme @ Sep 22 2014, 10:02 PM) Maybe developer don't want to build nearest u turn cos prevent residents kajang perdana and ttdi to by pass gd view height . Heard there have proposed link road to twin palm from saujana but twin palm developer / residents not allow the link road connect to the twin palm site. Hopefully in near future nearer route will be implemented |
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Sep 23 2014, 10:20 AM) Another thread on Goodview? The first two are already closed.https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3353042 https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3340674 https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3195063 The third one is good view in sg long, which is a different project from goodview height in sg long south ( aka Semenyih ). |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 22 2014, 06:45 PM) When they 1st visit EM, they like almost pay the deposit already.But after think twice, why not pay a visit to good view too. End up, 2 days later from the viewing, they pay the deposit and get a end lot. Lucky family! QUOTE(Maximp @ Sep 22 2014, 07:22 PM) Wonder if they will make traffic lights to allow turn right in front of the 1st guard house, really far need to male uturn I do not think it is a good idea to have traffic light at highway.QUOTE(danielisme @ Sep 22 2014, 10:02 PM) Maybe developer don't want to build nearest u turn cos prevent residents kajang perdana and ttdi to by pass gd view height . Heard there have proposed link road to twin palm from saujana but twin palm developer / residents not allow the link road connect to the twin palm site. Got such thing? |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 23 2014, 11:25 AM) yup to onwers, 1st phase still left with 22 X 80, and counting if any the loan rejections2nd phase will be launching next month (source SHL SA) with price adjustment from 2% to 5% max so it will be around 750k too 770k, 1st phase owner must be very happy.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 23 2014, 12:14 PM) yup to onwers, 1st phase still left with 22 X 80, and counting if any the loan rejections Wah, so fast they want to launch Phase 2, initially before Phase 1 launched they told me Phase 2 could be end of the year. 2nd phase will be launching next month (source SHL SA) with price adjustment from 2% to 5% max so it will be around 750k too 770k, 1st phase owner must be very happy.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 23 2014, 12:14 PM) yup to onwers, 1st phase still left with 22 X 80, and counting if any the loan rejections U closed ur goodview thread and cont' postin here? Any motive? Jz admit u r an prop agent. Nothin wrong be an agent. Its a decent income.2nd phase will be launching next month (source SHL SA) with price adjustment from 2% to 5% max so it will be around 750k too 770k, 1st phase owner must be very happy.. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Sep 23 2014, 10:32 AM) When they 1st visit EM, they like almost pay the deposit already. I heard my friend from saujana impian . Because thatside have many housing coming up then he said that side got proposed connection to silk highway but objected by twinpalm developer. So now don't know wats the statusBut after think twice, why not pay a visit to good view too. End up, 2 days later from the viewing, they pay the deposit and get a end lot. Lucky family! I do not think it is a good idea to have traffic light at highway. Got such thing? This post has been edited by danielisme: Sep 23 2014, 12:49 PM |
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QUOTE(danielisme @ Sep 23 2014, 12:48 PM) I heard my friend from saujana impian . Because thatside have many housing coming up then he said that side got proposed connection to silk highway but objected by twinpalm developer. So now don't know wats the status Must be rejected by the developer.I never heard the resident complain about this. And why would they complain? More routes are always welcome, right? |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Sep 23 2014, 10:32 AM) When they 1st visit EM, they like almost pay the deposit already. Congratulate for your fren purchase... But after think twice, why not pay a visit to good view too. End up, 2 days later from the viewing, they pay the deposit and get a end lot. Lucky family! I do not think it is a good idea to have traffic light at highway. Got such thing? So, this project generally is fairly far from city center, this does not concern him? BBW always condamn project far away and need to take more than 2 hours to travel during peak period, this never be a concern for your friend as well? |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Sep 23 2014, 10:32 AM) When they 1st visit EM, they like almost pay the deposit already. Did your fren ever asked why SHL don't want to build a tunnel as in twin palm? But after think twice, why not pay a visit to good view too. End up, 2 days later from the viewing, they pay the deposit and get a end lot. Lucky family! I do not think it is a good idea to have traffic light at highway. Got such thing? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 23 2014, 12:27 PM) built & sell, guess they had no confident the units with 73k also snapped out... but still is what i heard.. BBW, see your biased perception of so called ulu and spend more than 2 hours during jam hour cannot pakai one... This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 23 2014, 02:18 PM |
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QUOTE(danielisme @ Sep 23 2014, 12:48 PM) I heard my friend from saujana impian . Because thatside have many housing coming up then he said that side got proposed connection to silk highway but objected by twinpalm developer. So now don't know wats the status these areas twin palms, saujana and goodview need commercial activity, foods and restaurant, any which started to built, the proposed connection will be realized... |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 23 2014, 01:59 PM) Congratulate for your fren purchase... They currently staying at Bukit Belimbing, distance to good view not that far.So, this project generally is fairly far from city center, this does not concern him? BBW always condamn project far away and need to take more than 2 hours to travel during peak period, this never be a concern for your friend as well? From there no need 2 hour to reach town la. QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 23 2014, 02:10 PM) The tunnel is built by twin palms developer?QUOTE(danielisme @ Sep 23 2014, 02:24 PM) Extra routes are always welcome there. Cause Twin Palms only have 1 access from either directions. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 23 2014, 02:25 PM) these areas twin palms, saujana and goodview need commercial activity, foods and restaurant, any which started to built, the proposed connection will be realized... Can Ivory, Ameera, Oasis 1 will also beconnected with all the above, and can come out to SILK highway? Any Sifu can answer this? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 23 2014, 02:18 PM) BBW, see your biased perception of so called ulu and spend more than 2 hours during jam hour cannot pakai one... Agree. Too biased. Keep condemn SEH and EM sibeh ulu bcz sibeh damm 9 far from KLCC and need 2-3 hours, regardless how great is the township concept Now, this project location ( no disregards to SHL ) also far from KLCC but called it great project just simply bcz 700k+ buyers profile are not flippers but own stay. |
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Sep 23 2014, 08:34 PM) Agree. Too biased. Hard sell, bulldoze his idea through.Keep condemn SEH and EM sibeh ulu bcz sibeh damm 9 far from KLCC and need 2-3 hours, regardless how great is the township concept Now, this project location ( no disregards to SHL ) also far from KLCC but called it great project just simply bcz 700k+ buyers profile are not flippers but own stay. |
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Semenyih landed very laku leh,although now market slow down...
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Sep 23 2014, 08:34 PM) Agree. Too biased. finish sell oh, hmm.. next month phase 2... potential buyers shrinking di....Keep condemn SEH and EM sibeh ulu bcz sibeh damm 9 far from KLCC and need 2-3 hours, regardless how great is the township concept Now, this project location ( no disregards to SHL ) also far from KLCC but called it great project just simply bcz 700k+ buyers profile are not flippers but own stay. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 23 2014, 12:14 PM) yup to onwers, 1st phase still left with 22 X 80, and counting if any the loan rejections Funny.. 2nd phase will be launching next month (source SHL SA) with price adjustment from 2% to 5% max so it will be around 750k too 770k, 1st phase owner must be very happy.. Why u dun buy phase 1 but wait for phase 2? I m very confused.. Seriously, ther is sa named wong..is tht u, bear bear wong? |
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According to SHL's 2014 Annual Report, Goodview Heights was acquired at 31/3/2000, total area 188.01 acres, net book value RM80.4 million, address stated is Lot 7989,7990 ,PT 10503, Mukim of Semenyih, District of Hulu Langat, Selangor.
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QUOTE(Maximp @ Sep 24 2014, 11:06 AM) Not surprise nia.. Goodview height to Sungai long about 8km, Goodview height to Twin palm is about 4km. Goodview height to Ecomajestic Satellite office in Semenyih is about 5km. Good viewheight is actually on the border of mukim kajang and mukim Semenyih I suppose, but the land is register for under semenyih mukim. This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 24 2014, 12:59 PM |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Sep 22 2014, 04:19 PM) My friend ended up pay deposit at Goodview after visit and compare with Eco Majestic. I presume after the Ecohill link completed, the distance wise from KL just different by about 5 minutes driving between goodview and SEH/EM.Reason being, 1) Location 2) Unit layout Do you mind to enlighten how the unit layout of goodview is more superior than 22 x 75 of Eco Majestic, which sell at about the same price... This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 24 2014, 01:07 PM |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 24 2014, 12:57 PM) I presume after the Ecohill link completed, the distance wise from KL just different by about 5 minutes driving between goodview and SEH/EM. Not more superior la. Just a more preferred layout to them. Coz this kinda thing is very subjective.Do you mind to enlighten how the unit layout of goodview is more superior than 22 x 75 of Eco Majestic, which sell at about the same price... The reasons are 1) Staircase EM, straight up with small turn, GV, U turn 2) 1st floor family hall EM smaller, GV bigger 3) Ceiling height GV 1st floor ceiling height is really give you the grand feel. (Very very high) |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Sep 24 2014, 02:50 PM) Not more superior la. Just a more preferred layout to them. Coz this kinda thing is very subjective. Thanks for sharing... The reasons are 1) Staircase EM, straight up with small turn, GV, U turn 2) 1st floor family hall EM smaller, GV bigger 3) Ceiling height GV 1st floor ceiling height is really give you the grand feel. (Very very high) EM have put the high, high, high gate outside, inside lower... |
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Saw this analyst report on SHL. Good info on company and plans.
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QUOTE(scouser7 @ Sep 24 2014, 03:25 PM) As a investor i like this most:....SHL does not have a fixed dividend policy, it has been distributing dividends since its IPO. Over the past five years, SHL has had impressive net dividend payout ratios ranging from 49% to 75% during FY10-FY14. .. that mean from 1995 to 2014 dividend for 20 years without fail, not many company in Bursa can do it. This post has been edited by Palmwalker001: Sep 24 2014, 03:53 PM |
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However GV not G&G but guarded only.
To be exact the land acquired in 2000, 14 years ago not 20 years. |
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..In addition, the company owns and operates a golf resort in Bandar Sg. Long, which it could cease operation within a year’s notice to make way for new property developments within the township.
My goodness, hope they won't do so....anyway anything can happened Sg Long Golf Club is SHL's second largest land bank at 160 acres. |
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I believe SEH & EM will grow faster and higher than GV, SHL just lack of ability to build a township, bandar Sg long is an example which they own majority of the land there
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Sep 24 2014, 04:34 PM) I believe SEH & EM will grow faster and higher than GV, SHL just lack of ability to build a township, bandar Sg long is an example which they own majority of the land there It's a big contrast if one compares the shop houses in sg long verses the shop houses in mahkota cheras.At around 7 pm, the birds shit everywhere, especially under the big trees. You can imagine if it is going to spread bird flu at that location ....And after that the shops in sg long turn into yam yam cham cham dark ghosty place. |
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Sep 24 2014, 04:34 PM) I believe SEH & EM will grow faster and higher than GV, SHL just lack of ability to build a township, bandar Sg long is an example which they own majority of the land there Just personal opinion la, i think GV will need at least 10years to develop a proper township,I have few property for own stay at bandar tun hussien onn currently, 10years ago this whole township macam ghost town and ulu want to eat need to drive 10min, no hospital no shoplot no buses, only good thing is morning macam at genting got haze For some reason whole town suddenly developed so fast that now had almost everything nearby. Last time rm280k now selling at least 650k Give GV 10-15 years to develop i believe will turn into proper town but if investment need to hold quite sometime |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 24 2014, 04:41 PM) It's a big contrast if one compares the shop houses in sg long verses the shop houses in mahkota cheras. sg long is more on residential area..roughly about 20% of coomerical and 80% of residential.At around 7 pm, the birds shit everywhere, especially under the big trees. You can imagine if it is going to spread bird flu at that location ....And after that the shops in sg long turn into yam yam cham cham dark ghosty place. mahkota cheras is 50% vs 50% |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 24 2014, 04:41 PM) It's a big contrast if one compares the shop houses in sg long verses the shop houses in mahkota cheras. Really wondering why mahkota balakong and sg long full of birds at makan places, non food places doesnt seems to have such problemsAt around 7 pm, the birds shit everywhere, especially under the big trees. You can imagine if it is going to spread bird flu at that location ....And after that the shops in sg long turn into yam yam cham cham dark ghosty place. |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 24 2014, 04:41 PM) It's a big contrast if one compares the shop houses in sg long verses the shop houses in mahkota cheras. When UTAR PJ and Setapak students move into Sg Long in 2015 or 2016, I believe it will more happening at the commercial area in Sg Long....more jam definately.At around 7 pm, the birds shit everywhere, especially under the big trees. You can imagine if it is going to spread bird flu at that location ....And after that the shops in sg long turn into yam yam cham cham dark ghosty place. |
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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Sep 24 2014, 05:27 PM) When UTAR PJ and Setapak students move into Sg Long in 2015 or 2016, I believe it will more happening at the commercial area in Sg Long....more jam definately. Really ? I can't see that in Wangsamaju desa setapak area, how to project this into sg long ?This post has been edited by puchongite: Sep 24 2014, 05:32 PM |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 24 2014, 05:31 PM) Hopefully TARCian don't come to spoilt the area, Sg Long now look peaceful & not many Kapchai Rider without helmet blasting on the road & double triple parking at road side.Nowsdays i see Desa Setapak also i stay away, messy like hell. But Good news if really TARC move out of Setapak area, peaceful & Nice Condo no longer turn into student hostel |
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QUOTE(tmdsad @ Sep 24 2014, 07:10 AM) We all wonder why the same group of lowyat .....prefer touching out of topic ....individual.....from old thread to new thread....this is not kopitiam....please respect. it poses competation, and vp earlier than those projects..and they also amazed why such entry prices and ungated also ppl sapu instead of others there are mixed motive in their comments, part of it competation.. well, still finish selling. ystd a unit 22 x75 tiles type rejected loan within 2 hours was retaken back |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 24 2014, 09:09 PM) it poses competation, and vp earlier than those projects.. Competition? Why there is competition? Other people sell about 600 units also almost finish mah, compete of what?and they also amazed why such entry prices and ungated also ppl sapu instead of others there are mixed motive in their comments, part of it competation.. well, still finish selling. ystd a unit 22 x75 tiles type rejected loan within 2 hours was retaken back You see, Semenyih north project even not GnG also sapu habis, your so called "2 hours travel one way" nobody really believe loh... |
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Agent told me gonna start selling phase 2 soon, after the cascading waterfall completed
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thread died?
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Cancellation unit snapped up very fast, GV = GP (good product)
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Look forward to this development .
Problem if all phase are completed built and developer move out don't know mpkj manage to maintain the landscape and environment there not . |
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QUOTE(danielisme @ Sep 27 2014, 07:20 PM) Look forward to this development . I don't think MPKJ will maintain it nicely even though surrendered. SHL will also wash hand after certain period. Em.... this is the fact lo.....Problem if all phase are completed built and developer move out don't know mpkj manage to maintain the landscape and environment there not . |
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What happen? Thread died? Phase 1 fully sold and phase 2 coming soon, expected 3 to 5% price increaae
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Oct 8 2014, 11:32 PM) Same product like phase 1 22 x 75 and 22 x 80, but more units sharing one guard house which is about 250 units and 150 units for phase 2 and phase 1 respectively. Interest to see how much increase for phase 2 and market respond coz tropicana height din increase much for its phase 2 compare to phase 1 |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 24 2014, 09:09 PM) it poses competation, and vp earlier than those projects.. Look better than SEH, 2 of them can compare (FNG).and they also amazed why such entry prices and ungated also ppl sapu instead of others there are mixed motive in their comments, part of it competation.. well, still finish selling. ystd a unit 22 x75 tiles type rejected loan within 2 hours was retaken back |
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QUOTE(hello-hello92 @ Oct 9 2014, 07:47 AM) looks better? interms of what? SEH is selling faster than this...SEH got international school, got 10 theme gardens and got tesco, macdonald, KFC,pizza hut justs tone away, got nottingham university, got local food just nearby...got direct link road to lekas highway...good view heights got what nearby? This post has been edited by doomdoom: Oct 9 2014, 08:59 AM |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 9 2014, 08:59 AM) looks better? interms of what? SEH is selling faster than this...SEH got international school, got 10 theme gardens and got tesco, macdonald, KFC,pizza hut justs tone away, got nottingham university, got local food just nearby...got direct link road to lekas highway... first phased full sold good view heights got what nearby? |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 9 2014, 08:59 AM) looks better? interms of what? SEH is selling faster than this...SEH got international school, got 10 theme gardens and got tesco, macdonald, KFC,pizza hut justs tone away, got nottingham university, got local food just nearby...got direct link road to lekas highway... +1good view heights got what nearby? |
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SEH is good, no doubt, I also one of the disappointed buyers who blocked by the guard when I drove there about 11am and told me no more, fully taken, who manage to buy the cluster and semi d congrat them, very low price compare with the recent launch.
Goodview height is not really surrounded by rock mountain, only the high way side and a short stretch beside the shop lot. Other direction is clear with good view of kajang area. Twin palms also got none amenities nearby and same goes to the upcoming BRDB project. Distance btwn good view height and twin palms/ BRDB merely 3 - 4mins, 5 mins will reach sungai long main junction and 7 mins will able to see jusco on yr rite hand side and 10 to 11 mins will reach the mines junction. Not that "rural" and yet you got the cozy feeling due to its high ground and the good view toward kajang. Who been there b4 will understand my view. From good view height to SEH and ECO Hill is also very near, about 8 mins reach the new eco link. All timing above based on google map, taikor here driving good car can be faster |
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QUOTE(Col @ Oct 9 2014, 05:44 PM) SEH is good, no doubt, I also one of the disappointed buyers who blocked by the guard when I drove there about 11am and told me no more, fully taken, who manage to buy the cluster and semi d congrat them, very low price compare with the recent launch. From google map:Goodview height is not really surrounded by rock mountain, only the high way side and a short stretch beside the shop lot. Other direction is clear with good view of kajang area. Twin palms also got none amenities nearby and same goes to the upcoming BRDB project. Distance btwn good view height and twin palms/ BRDB merely 3 - 4mins, 5 mins will reach sungai long main junction and 7 mins will able to see jusco on yr rite hand side and 10 to 11 mins will reach the mines junction. Not that "rural" and yet you got the cozy feeling due to its high ground and the good view toward kajang. Who been there b4 will understand my view. From good view height to SEH and ECO Hill is also very near, about 8 mins reach the new eco link. All timing above based on google map, taikor here driving good car can be faster Goodview to twin palm: 3.5 km, highway road (silk) Goodview to Sungai Long commercial area: 7.5 km, highway road (silk) + city road (jalan sungai long) Goodview to aeon mahkota cheras: 8.5km, highway road (silk) + city road (Jalan sungai long + Persiaran mahkota cheras) Goodview to mines junction: 14.5 km, highway road (silk) Goodview to the starting point of Ecohill link: 9.2km, highway road (silk + Lekas) By looking at the distance, the timing given maybe true, but if after consider the road condition (some highway, some are highway + city road), the timing may change. The biggest problem for goodview from my perception is residents need to make a big U-turn from KL if they use silk highway, a terrible infra connection... |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 9 2014, 11:44 PM) From google map: No doubt the big U-turn is less than satisfactory, the distance about 6km extra luckily it all highway I believe time spent should be less than 10 minutes? Goodview to twin palm: 3.5 km, highway road (silk) Goodview to Sungai Long commercial area: 7.5 km, highway road (silk) + city road (jalan sungai long) Goodview to aeon mahkota cheras: 8.5km, highway road (silk) + city road (Jalan sungai long + Persiaran mahkota cheras) Goodview to mines junction: 14.5 km, highway road (silk) Goodview to the starting point of Ecohill link: 9.2km, highway road (silk + Lekas) By looking at the distance, the timing given maybe true, but if after consider the road condition (some highway, some are highway + city road), the timing may change. The biggest problem for goodview from my perception is residents need to make a big U-turn from KL if they use silk highway, a terrible infra connection... |
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U turn take additional 4-5 mins. Suggest to use plus- silk which pass by sungai ramal and kajang prima during peak hour. From besraya to balakong very jam during peak
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QUOTE(hello-hello92 @ Oct 14 2014, 08:45 AM) After visit the site last week, first phased 150 unit fully booked. The design of the house no bad and GNG concept. You feel cool and fresh air. Only land strata title property is called GnG, understand that Goodview Height is individual title at most is F&G (fenced and gated) |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 14 2014, 09:07 AM) visit on the 1st day launch..oledy saw huge crack on multiple houses at good view heights... Sure no, if all projects are hot in Kajang/Semenyih then winner also residents Kajang/Semenyih.u din notice? seems like u also like to talk badside on SEH and talk good on good view heights...remind me on someone... |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 14 2014, 09:07 AM) visit on the 1st day launch..oledy saw huge crack on multiple houses at good view heights... After read all this .. Can see doom doom damn hate this good view height ..haha .. Any recommend around this price ?u din notice? seems like u also like to talk badside on SEH and talk good on good view heights...remind me on someone... |
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Heard the VP date for phase 1 is mid of next year. Quite fast. Phase 2 will increase 2-5% subject to the respond of "booking"of phase 2
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This Goodview is single phase electric power or 3 phase? I looks to me it is a single phase. Why not 3 phase?
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 18 2014, 06:10 PM) Sad......only single phase. Nowadays, many landed is 3 phase wiring.By the way, I saw there is a factory inside or just beside this Goodview. Went to take a look, it is some sort like a stone or granite processing site. Do you guys see that? Any idea? |
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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:15 PM) Sad......only single phase. Nowadays, many landed is 3 phase wiring. I think got over price abit..... By the way, I saw there is a factory inside or just beside this Goodview. Went to take a look, it is some sort like a stone or granite processing site. Do you guys see that? Any idea? |
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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:15 PM) Sad......only single phase. Nowadays, many landed is 3 phase wiring. That granite processing site belong to SHL, Goodview in fact consist of three piece of land based on their Annual ReportBy the way, I saw there is a factory inside or just beside this Goodview. Went to take a look, it is some sort like a stone or granite processing site. Do you guys see that? Any idea? Lot 7989, Mukim of Semenyih 106.65 acres (freehold land) Lot 7990, Mukim of Semenyih 70.57 acres (freehold QUARRY LAND) PT10503 Mukim of Semenyih 10.79 acres (leasehold QUARRY LAND expiring year 2027) Total 188.01 acres |
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is the first phase completely sold?
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do you means they are selling the show room as well?
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phase 2 start from RM738k start to booking now..
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Phase 2 250++ units. I think due to higher dense and not investment friendly, respond should be slower than phase 1
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[quote=colarboy,Sep 22 2014, 06:03 PM]
[quote=enriquelee,Sep 22 2014, 04:19 PM] My friend ended up pay deposit at Goodview after visit and compare with Eco Majestic. Reason being, 1) Location 2) Unit layout [/quote Goodview weak point is need to make big u-turn if come from Aeon Cheras Selatan. For the layout, i dun like the maid room and the extra bathroom beside the maid room. It makes the kitchen smaller. Overall it is still a good buy. [/quote] Another weak point is the area will be very dusty... Because quali is nearby. |
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I think no more quarry, this is no way for authority to approve residential dev. When quarry so near to it.
I heard formally it was quarry land but it stopped and now go for residential development. The current land owner is kajang quarry sdn bhd and the title will later transfer to house owner |
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Oct 26 2014, 02:57 PM) Boss u misund liao. Bro bear just pmed me just now saying he gotten approval tis morning. Thou I know it's impossible cos toda y is Sunday. Bank won't giv answer wan. But it's ok la. Kita sumua kawan ma. So I kenot tell bro bear liddat. Save face bit hor. |
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 26 2014, 08:21 PM) Boss u misund liao. Bro bear just pmed me just now saying he gotten approval tis morning. Thou I know it's impossible cos toda y is Sunday. Bank won't giv answer wan. But it's ok la. Kita sumua kawan ma. So I kenot tell bro bear liddat. Save face bit hor. But now u blow trumpet in public liao..u should PM tiger kor instead Now whole world also know liao lor |
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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Oct 26 2014, 08:35 PM) But now u blow trumpet in public liao..u should PM tiger kor instead My banker friend told me he got a case. Gross salary want to apply 730k loan. Heard that guy also pay undertable to valuation to make it 830k. But the banker told me it ll be crazy if they approve his loan.Now whole world also know liao lor |
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Guy can anyone confirm 2nd phase Goodview Height really 738K coz i am interested, i heard can kawtim loan if agreed to pay under table, one fellow gross income 5.5K or Nett 4.5K also eligible, any idea this is true ?
If not maybe i buy next door Jelok Impian next to Kajang Jail 600K but i still preferred SHL Goodview as made of red bricks |
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i wan buy but no money pay downpayment
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 26 2014, 08:21 PM) Boss u misund liao. Bro bear just pmed me just now saying he gotten approval tis morning. Thou I know it's impossible cos toda y is Sunday. Bank won't giv answer wan. But it's ok la. Kita sumua kawan ma. So I kenot tell bro bear liddat. Save face bit hor. aiyo ................ |
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Anyone been to the sales gallery recently? Mind to share the phase 2 respond? Very much appreciated.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 11:00 AM) 2nd phase open only 55 units.. deepavali time.. sold 20units plus .. developers are finding market deem I guess or possible want to increase price over launches no concept, not near public transport, no nearby township, no amenities, location so far, so expensive, no concept township.. BBW, can buy ah? Bear bear now Goodview agent.. very hard sell... This post has been edited by twincharger07: Nov 4 2014, 11:17 AM |
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how's market response to this type development?
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Nov 4 2014, 11:15 AM) no concept, not near public transport, no nearby township, no amenities, location so far, so expensive, no concept township.. BBW, can buy ah? I am not an agent, guess so long you see me comment you have know... it is not an investment ground for sure..Bear bear now Goodview agent.. very hard sell... if there are in the 1st phase, probably now would have been slamming chairs and table, developers launching 2nd phase 738800 i.e around 10k more than 1st phase... given there are no rebates schemes, and completion coming next year April, 1st phase hand keys, start to service loans, and bare in mind S&P sign now, 5 years from now still RPGT, that would be 2014 +5 = 2019 no PRGT.. if developers continue to launch with extra 10k each phase, dun dream investment.. This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jun 28 2021, 01:52 PM |
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QUOTE(vajos @ Nov 4 2014, 01:04 PM) can see not as hot semenyih and other areas, this is built and sell concept, explanation as per above, RPGT, loan servicing start very fast, and new phases are launching extra 10k more, not investment ground..no rebates, no freebies and etc, but ironically 1st phase all 250 units sell off, second phase only 55 units test water market, 1 week only finish about 30 units, not as hot as semenyih... but own stay is confirm, those investors jumping here going to get burned |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 01:39 PM) I am not an agent, guess so long you see me comment you have know... it is not an investment ground for sure.. EM and SEH has better town planning more than 1000 over acres connected to highway, almost similar pricing wor..if there are in the 1st phase, probably now would have been slamming chairs and table, developers launching 2nd phase 738800 i.e around 10k more than 1st phase... given there are no rebates schemes, and completion coming next year April, 1st phase hand keys, start to service loans, and bare in mind S&P sign now, 5 years from now still RPGT, that would be 2014 +5 = 2019 no PRGT.. if developers continue to launch with extra 10k each phase, dun dream investment.. but tropicana cheras more expensive right? 800k upwards, but many rebates.. freebies . goodview got highway access and roads connecting to kajang perdana , shops, till now will have to gamble, nth to eat and no access road yrt to kajang perdana EM full GnG summore... You always call other ppl agent, now you know when ppl call you agent huh... This post has been edited by twincharger07: Nov 4 2014, 02:23 PM |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Nov 4 2014, 02:21 PM) EM and SEH has better town planning more than 1000 over acres connected to highway, almost similar pricing wor.. im sure BBW not an agent....EM full GnG summore... You always call other ppl agent, now you know when ppl call you agent huh... if he is...sure can sleep road side already. because his mindset DDD and buy when bubbles come. |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Nov 4 2014, 02:21 PM) EM and SEH has better town planning more than 1000 over acres connected to highway, almost similar pricing wor.. so good and confirm sale township no need give rebates 7 freebies already lor... straight ask 10% hard deposit and deliver it 6 months after that like goodview BTS... EM full GnG summore... You always call other ppl agent, now you know when ppl call you agent huh... how good are they now? you notice you skipped the freebies section in TH... |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 05:12 PM) good, finally somebody knows.. Bro, I do believe karma in current world (not so much on the after world). Honestly, I found the some of your comments did disgrace people / projects woh. So, whenever there is a chance, sure people hentam balik lar...have you notice ur other counterparts, those in BBB , their comments are really really disgraceful, only irrelevant attacks and not related to property one at all do most investors/agents do like that? or behave like this? how they manage to survive in front of their friends talking like that? such a disgrace some even starting to call "paria" if you notice.. is our education system really that clogged up ??? But hoh, we can be friend friend though sometimes I do make joke out of you |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 05:12 PM) good, finally somebody knows.. Goodview Height actually got how many phase in total??have you notice ur other counterparts, those in BBB , their comments are really really disgraceful, only irrelevant attacks and not related to property one at all do most investors/agents do like that? or behave like this? how they manage to survive in front of their friends talking like that? such a disgrace some even starting to call "paria" if you notice.. is our education system really that clogged up ??? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 05:10 PM) so good and confirm sale township no need give rebates 7 freebies already lor... straight ask 10% hard deposit and deliver it 6 months after that like goodview BTS... Giving freebies or discount is one thing, good township and good sales are another things mah. Can't just deny the fact mar.how good are they now? you notice you skipped the freebies section in TH... |
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 4 2014, 06:28 PM) Bro, I do believe karma in current world (not so much on the after world). Honestly, I found the some of your comments did disgrace people / projects woh. So, whenever there is a chance, sure people hentam balik lar... but I like BBW.... But hoh, we can be friend friend though sometimes I do make joke out of you |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 05:10 PM) so good and confirm sale township no need give rebates 7 freebies already lor... straight ask 10% hard deposit and deliver it 6 months after that like goodview BTS... How good is consider good for u?how good are they now? you notice you skipped the freebies section in TH... |
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 4 2014, 06:37 PM) like this, S&P concept not to say no credit, to attract young buyers they are hit the target, if S&P setia project is located at bandar mahkota cheras, then no need you to line up, me also line up to buy.. this project needs the concept and the easy entry to attract ppl in buying, try reduce 1 of the concept or price factor see got these kind of heat or not.. price factor, further with low entry factor are the main pushing factor, without it even investors will go away.. that price start 400k plus for a reason, ownstay, not short term investment like after 5 years... try changing it to 40k DP , see how and what it will happen? |
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Bear bear you keep defending this project kao kao, did u buy??
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 08:53 PM) BBW, yes I'm confident with EM @ Semenyih - that's why I bought it. The way you defend your points shows that you have confidence in GVH, but do you buy?Are you trying to tell me that the very recent 95% sales of EM DSL in one day is solely due to the rebate / discount? The discount is about RM20k only and it doesn't really make a lot of diff for the D/P. I would say it is kind of ignorant and so wrong by not considering at all other factors e.g. the township masterplan, the landscape, the design and layout, the amenities, accessibility etc into the analysis. Discount / rebate / freebies or whatever you like to call it just play a (very) small part in attracting the buyers. |
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 4 2014, 09:27 PM) BBW, yes I'm confident with EM @ Semenyih - that's why I bought it. The way you defend your points shows that you have confidence in GVH, but do you buy? bbw believes.... "....in fact investors never even consider abandoned projects as risk at all at the point of purchase."Are you trying to tell me that the very recent 95% sales of EM DSL in one day is solely due to the rebate / discount? The discount is about RM20k only and it doesn't really make a lot of diff for the D/P. I would say it is kind of ignorant and so wrong by not considering at all other factors e.g. the township masterplan, the landscape, the design and layout, the amenities, accessibility etc into the analysis. Discount / rebate / freebies or whatever you like to call it just play a (very) small part in attracting the buyers. so he target only built then sell or build and sell only..... if not sub-sale..... |
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Nov 4 2014, 09:33 PM) bbw believes.... "....in fact investors never even consider abandoned projects as risk at all at the point of purchase." If that's his believe, then all investors are naive - let the God save them (and perhaps BBW too) so he target only built then sell or build and sell only..... if not sub-sale..... |
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 4 2014, 09:27 PM) BBW, yes I'm confident with EM @ Semenyih - that's why I bought it. The way you defend your points shows that you have confidence in GVH, but do you buy? I think ppl buy EM bcos believe its will bcome a successful new Township, just need some time prove it Are you trying to tell me that the very recent 95% sales of EM DSL in one day is solely due to the rebate / discount? The discount is about RM20k only and it doesn't really make a lot of diff for the D/P. I would say it is kind of ignorant and so wrong by not considering at all other factors e.g. the township masterplan, the landscape, the design and layout, the amenities, accessibility etc into the analysis. Discount / rebate / freebies or whatever you like to call it just play a (very) small part in attracting the buyers. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 05:10 PM) so good and confirm sale township no need give rebates 7 freebies already lor... straight ask 10% hard deposit and deliver it 6 months after that like goodview BTS... You agent of cos say good one la...how good are they now? you notice you skipped the freebies section in TH... what freebies wat TH? |
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I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction.
For me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 10:38 AM) I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction. Congrats on your purchase, however GH is neither Kajang nor Sungai Long but Mukim Semenyih their address stated in the developer's Annual Report is Lot 7989 & 7990, PT 10503 Mukim of Semenyih of District of Hulu LangatFor me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. Nothing wrong with Semenyih, one should not feel inferior/ulu just because live there. Just my two cents, hope no offend. This post has been edited by Palmwalker001: Nov 5 2014, 12:08 PM |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 10:38 AM) I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction. I totally agree with you. I'm also one of the Phase 1 buyer. I bought this for own stay as well. For me, as long as you like it then no point keep on arguing Semenyih or Kajang (It is actually Kajang, but developer just want to name it as "Sg.Long South"), which project is better. Of course if you buy it for pure investment then it is different story.For me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 10:38 AM) I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction. I'm glad that you bought a unit you like and you are satisfied with the environments and the price paid. It's nothing wrong at all. I think you get offended because some are criticising here and there about this project. But it is due (mainly) to BBW who triggered the arguments. It's a long story...For me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. No worries, so long as you are happy with your decision. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 10:38 AM) I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction. Congratulation.For me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. Hope bear bear will take action rather than empty talking |
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oh this goodview can enter via saujana? means it's nearby the condos. ameera,ivory etc.
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Oh, yeap, alternative enter via Jelok Impian or Kajang Perdana.
Haha. No get offended lah. Just that there are so many questions and wrong information thats why only step my leg in for sharing info. I also not sure actually why Mukim Semenyih, but it's actually locate between Kajang and Sg. Long. But because it's SHL project, thats why they want to link to Sg. Long and call as South. 2,391 built-up for a 22 x 75' consider generous already, eventhough the workmanshop may not good enough, but just take a little effort to ask developer to rectify during the vacant possession period or defect liability period. Take a yellow sticker and stick around all the defects and make comments to them. By the way, those who interested, I heard there are rejected units at Phase 1, although now launching phase 2 as well with difference in 10k. Free S&P Agreement, Free S&P Legal, but Loan Legal need to pay. This is my 3rd property (previously sold 1, remain 1 apartment on rental). Yes, we all know that property price is consider high now, previously I do wanted to wait for the market to burst, but market burst may affect on condo pricing, but landed because of limited land, hence the value may still there. However if thats something you like and suit you, this is most important. This just my 2cent opinion. Cheers. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 02:33 PM) Oh, yeap, alternative enter via Jelok Impian or Kajang Perdana. hi bro, im new in property. may i ask how much u paid for the S&P and legal?Haha. No get offended lah. Just that there are so many questions and wrong information thats why only step my leg in for sharing info. I also not sure actually why Mukim Semenyih, but it's actually locate between Kajang and Sg. Long. But because it's SHL project, thats why they want to link to Sg. Long and call as South. 2,391 built-up for a 22 x 75' consider generous already, eventhough the workmanshop may not good enough, but just take a little effort to ask developer to rectify during the vacant possession period or defect liability period. Take a yellow sticker and stick around all the defects and make comments to them. By the way, those who interested, I heard there are rejected units at Phase 1, although now launching phase 2 as well with difference in 10k. Free S&P Agreement, Free S&P Legal, but Loan Legal need to pay. This is my 3rd property (previously sold 1, remain 1 apartment on rental). Yes, we all know that property price is consider high now, previously I do wanted to wait for the market to burst, but market burst may affect on condo pricing, but landed because of limited land, hence the value may still there. However if thats something you like and suit you, this is most important. This just my 2cent opinion. Cheers. im very interested wit GW but i poor fag |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 10:38 AM) I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction. Congra For me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. No Regret buying this, after 5 year u will earn a lot from this...... |
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QUOTE(soket @ Nov 5 2014, 03:20 PM) hi bro, im new in property. may i ask how much u paid for the S&P and legal? Haha, its okay, you can ask anything.im very interested wit GW but i poor fag Basically is like this, for Goodview Height: 1. S&P Agreement and S&P Legal fees is free if you take from their panel bank (RHB, Public Bank, Maybank, Ambank and Citibank) 2. Legal fees and Loan Agreement need to pay, approximate RM8k plus including disburtment fees. 3. 10% downpayment, if RM738k, means pay RM73,800, booking fee RM10k will be counted inside the downpayment. 4. For Phase 1, certificate of completion issuance is June 2015; for Phase 2 is by end of 2015. So if you buy now, you won't need to pay any construction interest because of their 'Built-then-sell' concept, not like typical development need to pay the interest till completion. So, other than that (RM8k plus + RM73,800), nothing to pay for now. If you can see the empty unit, its consider renovation free because they provided a lot include plaster ceiling and grill door between the wet kitchen and back yard. What you need is furniture, lighting, and maybe grill for sliding door and back yard. This development is double tier security hence consider quite safe, as also no commercial building or low end flat / apartment that constitute to a lot foreigner. Price frankly consider quite good already for new landed nowadays, consider location and built-up size, but of course please think twice on your budget, don't get something that will make you suffer in installment later, in the end because we still need a comfortable life. As an alternative for you, there is another new development (next to UNITEN) which I think quite cheap but not sure other info because didn't go and see: Alam Sari by I&P group |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 04:27 PM) Haha, its okay, you can ask anything. thanks for the info bro! for now i think i am able to handle the load but juz the dowpayment part is the issue.Basically is like this, for Goodview Height: 1. S&P Agreement and S&P Legal fees is free if you take from their panel bank (RHB, Public Bank, Maybank, Ambank and Citibank) 2. Legal fees and Loan Agreement need to pay, approximate RM8k plus including disburtment fees. 3. 10% downpayment, if RM738k, means pay RM73,800, booking fee RM10k will be counted inside the downpayment. 4. For Phase 1, certificate of completion issuance is June 2015; for Phase 2 is by end of 2015. So if you buy now, you won't need to pay any construction interest because of their 'Built-then-sell' concept, not like typical development need to pay the interest till completion. So, other than that (RM8k plus + RM73,800), nothing to pay for now. If you can see the empty unit, its consider renovation free because they provided a lot include plaster ceiling and grill door between the wet kitchen and back yard. What you need is furniture, lighting, and maybe grill for sliding door and back yard. This development is double tier security hence consider quite safe, as also no commercial building or low end flat / apartment that constitute to a lot foreigner. Price frankly consider quite good already for new landed nowadays, consider location and built-up size, but of course please think twice on your budget, don't get something that will make you suffer in installment later, in the end because we still need a comfortable life. As an alternative for you, there is another new development (next to UNITEN) which I think quite cheap but not sure other info because didn't go and see: Alam Sari by I&P group |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 04:27 PM) Haha, its okay, you can ask anything. ops double post!Basically is like this, for Goodview Height: 1. S&P Agreement and S&P Legal fees is free if you take from their panel bank (RHB, Public Bank, Maybank, Ambank and Citibank) 2. Legal fees and Loan Agreement need to pay, approximate RM8k plus including disburtment fees. 3. 10% downpayment, if RM738k, means pay RM73,800, booking fee RM10k will be counted inside the downpayment. 4. For Phase 1, certificate of completion issuance is June 2015; for Phase 2 is by end of 2015. So if you buy now, you won't need to pay any construction interest because of their 'Built-then-sell' concept, not like typical development need to pay the interest till completion. So, other than that (RM8k plus + RM73,800), nothing to pay for now. If you can see the empty unit, its consider renovation free because they provided a lot include plaster ceiling and grill door between the wet kitchen and back yard. What you need is furniture, lighting, and maybe grill for sliding door and back yard. This development is double tier security hence consider quite safe, as also no commercial building or low end flat / apartment that constitute to a lot foreigner. Price frankly consider quite good already for new landed nowadays, consider location and built-up size, but of course please think twice on your budget, don't get something that will make you suffer in installment later, in the end because we still need a comfortable life. As an alternative for you, there is another new development (next to UNITEN) which I think quite cheap but not sure other info because didn't go and see: Alam Sari by I&P group by the way wats the differences between Legal fees and Loan Agreement vs Legal fees and Loan Agreement? This post has been edited by soket: Nov 5 2014, 04:46 PM |
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QUOTE(soket @ Nov 5 2014, 04:45 PM) ops double post! I think you are talking about difference between S&P Legal Fees and Loan Agreement Legal Fees.by the way wats the differences between Legal fees and Loan Agreement vs Legal fees and Loan Agreement? S&P Legal: Lawyer that prepare the S&P agreement for you to sign, the same time as 10% downpayment to pay Loan Agreement Legal: Lawyer that prepare the loan agreement after bank offer, the same time the RM8k plus need to pay. Hmm.. maybe need to find ways to fork out the downpayment loh, a dream house, if you really like, maybe miss already then won't get it anymore. But again, advise is try not to force yourself, make life simple a bit, and please don't go for Ah Long. haha. For the time being, from all my research, RHB currently giving the best package as their new Full Flexi Loan is free monthly charges, free transaction fees because its a new launch for them. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 04:54 PM) I think you are talking about difference between S&P Legal Fees and Loan Agreement Legal Fees. thanks for the info.S&P Legal: Lawyer that prepare the S&P agreement for you to sign, the same time as 10% downpayment to pay Loan Agreement Legal: Lawyer that prepare the loan agreement after bank offer, the same time the RM8k plus need to pay. Hmm.. maybe need to find ways to fork out the downpayment loh, a dream house, if you really like, maybe miss already then won't get it anymore. But again, advise is try not to force yourself, make life simple a bit, and please don't go for Ah Long. haha. For the time being, from all my research, RHB currently giving the best package as their new Full Flexi Loan is free monthly charges, free transaction fees because its a new launch for them. by the way they already issue the title for this property? |
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QUOTE(soket @ Nov 5 2014, 05:04 PM) Btw, MOT (Memorandum of transfer) is also free.So means S&P Agreement Stamp Duty, S&P Agreement Legal and MOT is free. Goodview Height Phase 1 and Phase 2 are all individual title, not master title. Currently they are progressing for the Semi-D as well. The shop lots should complete the same time as Phase 1 and 2. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 05:11 PM) Btw, MOT (Memorandum of transfer) is also free. how many phase in total actually?? How many unit in total??So means S&P Agreement Stamp Duty, S&P Agreement Legal and MOT is free. Goodview Height Phase 1 and Phase 2 are all individual title, not master title. Currently they are progressing for the Semi-D as well. The shop lots should complete the same time as Phase 1 and 2. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 04:27 PM) Haha, its okay, you can ask anything. I noticed that there is walk-up apartment next to shop houses, any idea their price range?Basically is like this, for Goodview Height: 1. S&P Agreement and S&P Legal fees is free if you take from their panel bank (RHB, Public Bank, Maybank, Ambank and Citibank) 2. Legal fees and Loan Agreement need to pay, approximate RM8k plus including disburtment fees. 3. 10% downpayment, if RM738k, means pay RM73,800, booking fee RM10k will be counted inside the downpayment. 4. For Phase 1, certificate of completion issuance is June 2015; for Phase 2 is by end of 2015. So if you buy now, you won't need to pay any construction interest because of their 'Built-then-sell' concept, not like typical development need to pay the interest till completion. So, other than that (RM8k plus + RM73,800), nothing to pay for now. If you can see the empty unit, its consider renovation free because they provided a lot include plaster ceiling and grill door between the wet kitchen and back yard. What you need is furniture, lighting, and maybe grill for sliding door and back yard. This development is double tier security hence consider quite safe, as also no commercial building or low end flat / apartment that constitute to a lot foreigner. Price frankly consider quite good already for new landed nowadays, consider location and built-up size, but of course please think twice on your budget, don't get something that will make you suffer in installment later, in the end because we still need a comfortable life. As an alternative for you, there is another new development (next to UNITEN) which I think quite cheap but not sure other info because didn't go and see: Alam Sari by I&P group |
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Cassia East (Phase 1)
Approximate 22 x 75' = 130 units 22 x 80' = 27 units Cassia West (Phase 2) Approximate 22 x 75' = 200+ units 22 x 80' = 40 units Retail Shop Lot (Concurrent development with Phase 1 & 2) Should be more or less 150 units plus. Future Phases (no further details) Magnolia - Semi-D Tecoma - Terrace Apartments I not sure whether the apartments is walk-up apartment, and no details on the pricing because even sales agent has no info yet. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 08:34 PM) Cassia East (Phase 1) Understand that 22x75 started with RM728k plus additional RM10k for phase 2. What about price and built-up for 22x80?Approximate 22 x 75' = 130 units 22 x 80' = 27 units Cassia West (Phase 2) Approximate 22 x 75' = 200+ units 22 x 80' = 40 units Retail Shop Lot (Concurrent development with Phase 1 & 2) Should be more or less 150 units plus. Future Phases (no further details) Magnolia - Semi-D Tecoma - Terrace Apartments I not sure whether the apartments is walk-up apartment, and no details on the pricing because even sales agent has no info yet. |
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Oct 26 2014, 09:50 PM) Guy can anyone confirm 2nd phase Goodview Height really 738K coz i am interested, i heard can kawtim loan if agreed to pay under table, one fellow gross income 5.5K or Nett 4.5K also eligible, any idea this is true ? Hi jolokia,If not maybe i buy next door Jelok Impian next to Kajang Jail 600K but i still preferred SHL Goodview as made of red bricks I think you referring to TTDI grove next to Sg. Jelok. Actually the housing in terms of price isbquite reasonable, but you need to know the built up for the 600k is less than 2000sqft, because there are many different types of unit there i think. |
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 5 2014, 09:16 PM) Understand that 22x75 started with RM728k plus additional RM10k for phase 2. What about price and built-up for 22x80? 22x80' is 2672sqft built up @ 798,000 for phase 1.But 22x80' understand from agent is quite hard to sell. As I also realize there isn't significant different when you're inside the unit because the additional area is like 'living room bug a bit, kitchen big a bit etc', and the built up take into consideration of additional balcony area. Corner @ 899,000 for phase 1, same built up, but additional 5 ft area at the corner. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 09:25 PM) 22x80' is 2672sqft built up @ 798,000 for phase 1. Alright. Both types are around RM300 psf.But 22x80' understand from agent is quite hard to sell. As I also realize there isn't significant different when you're inside the unit because the additional area is like 'living room bug a bit, kitchen big a bit etc', and the built up take into consideration of additional balcony area. Corner @ 899,000 for phase 1, same built up, but additional 5 ft area at the corner. Btw, you did a better job than BBW in promoting GVH. |
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 5 2014, 09:36 PM) Haha.. I just trying to help anyone who interested to know more info, and awareness on current property market.So that all will have their dream house or for good investment. =) |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 09:15 PM) Peri-Peri, why you say after 5 yrs will earn a lot geh? Got 10 Mil ppl in KV wor when 2020.....all KV property sure increase price punya la.....have u see anything drop price?? except car and kangkung la I am investor myself, but I didnt really think in further GVH can earn a lot.. Haha. |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:34 AM
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Haha. Always involve BBW.
I wonder how's the sale in Phase 2 of Goodview Height. Also, I think alternative MKH Kajang East also seems not bad. |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 6 2014, 10:34 AM) Haha. Always involve BBW. yup MKH east is not a bad choice too, just access road a bit far though... not direct to LEKAS..I wonder how's the sale in Phase 2 of Goodview Height. Also, I think alternative MKH Kajang East also seems not bad. good view as of lst week, should stand around 30 units out of 55 units launched since deepavali, just call Sin heap lee office will know.. warn you, for own stay only... cannot flip... 1st phase ppl thinking to flip will be cursing , developers launching 2nd phase at 10k extra along that highway, after twin plams, there are developments in Tman pusara too, behind the tropicana.. can see the surian residence 3 strorey from there |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 09:15 PM) Peri-Peri, why you say after 5 yrs will earn a lot geh? very frank, by then the semnyih project will flood the market... 738k is no where to invest anymore.. coz goodview @ sg long 2.5 storey still with developers selling 998k developers sales...I am investor myself, but I didnt really think in further GVH can earn a lot.. Haha. those investing and trying to be funny going to be burn... look at Semenyih, their price are same or mroe expensive, but they lot of freebies and rebate.. investors grounds... desa coalfields /setia alam in the making |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 5 2014, 12:47 PM) I'm glad that you bought a unit you like and you are satisfied with the environments and the price paid. It's nothing wrong at all. I think you get offended because some are criticising here and there about this project. But it is due (mainly) to BBW who triggered the arguments. It's a long story... wNo worries, so long as you are happy with your decision. This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jun 28 2021, 01:53 PM |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:47 AM
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Nov 6 2014, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 10:38 AM) I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction. there is a risk here... shops and food really gotta drive out.. but since it is BTS and no rebate, preety sure many are occupying..For me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. but some say SHL works are bad... dunno how bad |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 10:47 AM) i think you think you think too much agents... u check the property bubble before right, saw ur comrades brainwashing everybidy price are not due to speculations.. you now The person who think too much is you keep on calling ppl agent.who is my comrades? show me... |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 10:39 AM) yup MKH east is not a bad choice too, just access road a bit far though... not direct to LEKAS.. bbw set rule in buying prop now........ good view as of lst week, should stand around 30 units out of 55 units launched since deepavali, just call Sin heap lee office will know.. warn you, for own stay only... cannot flip... 1st phase ppl thinking to flip will be cursing , developers launching 2nd phase at 10k extra along that highway, after twin plams, there are developments in Tman pusara too, behind the tropicana.. can see the surian residence 3 strorey from there |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:03 AM
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Nov 6 2014, 11:06 AM
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guess brainwashing starts.. and trolling too...
ppl already say GH is a good home owned/staying projects... u trolls know why they prefer this over park field, tender fields? ask them as purchasers.. take alook at TTDI groove kajang, vacant or not? look at Mutiara villa saujana suria area, damm vcant units since vp... This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 6 2014, 11:07 AM |
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Buying for own stay or long term investment (>10 yrs) in areas like Semenyih is okay.
Buy to flip even for kajang area is very risky. But high risk = high reward. |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 6 2014, 11:07 AM) Buying for own stay or long term investment (>10 yrs) in areas like Semenyih is okay. if this is happening then it is well and good... a healthy growth, at least the shops and resident will have been up and booming, if badly invested, ghost town, no shops no open and etc..Buy to flip even for kajang area is very risky. But high risk = high reward. not like pon vp sflip 400k, take a look at Semenyih 1st phase SEH, sure 700k one... the same buyers from Setia Alam This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 6 2014, 11:10 AM |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 11:06 AM) guess brainwashing starts.. and trolling too... The annoying thing is.. ppl didnt talk about goreng but you terus POINT FINGER AT EVERY PERSON ACCUSING THEM SPECULATORS.. do you have a problem?ppl already say GH is a good home owned/staying projects... u trolls know why they prefer this over park field, tender fields? ask them as purchasers.. take alook at TTDI groove kajang, vacant or not? look at Mutiara villa saujana suria area, damm vcant units since vp... |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:24 AM
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Nov 6 2014, 11:27 AM
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BBW, seriously, I think you do more harm than good in promoting GVH. Learn from dominic86 lah.
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Nov 6 2014, 11:30 AM
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Nov 6 2014, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 6 2014, 11:27 AM) come on that measn ask me dun comment? why not u tell those ppl stop trolling? cant you see they are just trolling?This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jun 28 2021, 01:54 PM |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 11:24 AM) I assuming you don't know how to respect ppls even don't know how to respect ur family members. Pls go back to ur dream land. I wonder why you don't like investor? If no investor in Malaysia. U think Malaysia will grow for the next 10yrs? Imagine 90% of the ppls don't spent. U think economic will grow? |
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QUOTE(Palmwalker001 @ Nov 6 2014, 11:30 AM) haiya, this is not simply any entry for invetors, 1st phase fully sold, 2nd pahse developer also conservative about market or want to play with the price, launch 55 units only test .. the later launch should be more expensive and upwards, but not like 10-20% difference ...here 1st phase paper gain 10k, but own stay don't feel like this, investors do feel paper gain.. the more the better |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:37 AM
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domminic86, how do you think about Semenyih project? like SP setia, during the 1st phase launching, SEH &EM also launching, what makes prefer this over those?
heard you say the word "far", is the distance that significant to you? forumers from there say mere 10 minutes via lekas to GH.. any views? |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:40 AM
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[quote=MaiGehGeh,Nov 6 2014, 11:35 AM]
I assuming you don't know how to respect ppls even don't know how to respect ur family members. wah personal attacks wor... not related to topic... well, you still remember Jolokia use the word 'paria" right? I am the first objected on your behalf, this is what i get? Pls go back to ur dream land. cant you just address the point? I wonder why you don't like investor? If no investor in Malaysia. U think Malaysia will grow for the next 10yrs? Imagine 90% of the ppls don't spent. U think economic will grow? of course Malaysia need investors, just that investors can invest in a variety of products, not only property right? and not by speculating it and sell upon vp right? This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 6 2014, 11:43 AM |
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it ok Jason, I know there are no disadvantage of Semenyih in terms of investment or even own stay right?
dominic86, just tell them on their face, Semenyih is far, despite LEKAS.. but they feel the same, "so what we are investing what, just waiting water fish to buy" dun kacau us brainwash buyers that price going up, and it a good buy any new launch project... check the threads... none of the project are have no disadvantage one.. |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Nov 6 2014, 11:35 AM) I assuming you don't know how to respect ppls even don't know how to respect ur family members. Of course every sector needs investors, but excessive speculation in property sector is not good for our future generations.Pls go back to ur dream land. I wonder why you don't like investor? If no investor in Malaysia. U think Malaysia will grow for the next 10yrs? Imagine 90% of the ppls don't spent. U think economic will grow? We need an orderly and sustainable property sector. |
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 6 2014, 11:43 AM) Of course every sector needs investors, but excessive speculation in property sector is not good for our future generations. dun so hard on him, I know you buying for children, but one of your prop and his prop are located in old klang road too, his is rainz, leafz or sth, next to Z residence, targeting young ppl to hantam at 600k above subsale..We need an orderly and sustainable property sector. i think he offline already This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 6 2014, 11:52 AM |
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 5 2014, 12:47 PM) I'm glad that you bought a unit you like and you are satisfied with the environments and the price paid. It's nothing wrong at all. I think you get offended because some are criticising here and there about this project. But it is due (mainly) to BBW who triggered the arguments. It's a long story... if ppl already made their stand that GH is Kajang, then all your previous arguments are wasting time lor...No worries, so long as you are happy with your decision. it is fact even buyers know Semenyih is far.. of course ppl get offended, Semenyih is far, you guys are trying to associate this with Semenyih and nirvana , prison, remember? |
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Nov 6 2014, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 11:45 AM) dun so hard on him, I know you buying for children, but one of your prop and his prop are located in old klang road too, his is rainz, leafz or sth, next to Z residence, targeting young ppl to hantam at 600k above subsale.. please check properly b4 comment, dont just guess like how you predict there is DDD.i think he offline already if u think i personal attack you, you r totally wrong. |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Nov 6 2014, 11:57 AM) please check properly b4 comment, dont just guess like how you predict there is DDD. u got something wrong, dun dare hantam cfa28? he hantam ur speculation idea... that one is still not personal attack talking about family, try that on najib see...if u think i personal attack you, you r totally wrong. |
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Nov 6 2014, 11:35 AM) I assuming you don't know how to respect ppls even don't know how to respect ur family members. No need ask him go back his dreamland lah....... Pls go back to ur dream land. I wonder why you don't like investor? If no investor in Malaysia. U think Malaysia will grow for the next 10yrs? Imagine 90% of the ppls don't spent. U think economic will grow? But ai agreed that "Imagine 90% of the ppls don't spent. U think economic will grow?" this is true 101% |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:06 PM) of course we know...najib too, but to determine whether it is personal attack is now decided by the one uttering it rather than the other end receiving it..see what position is he? he now say it is not a personal attack wor... typical |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 12:04 PM) okok sorry should not say like that.. whenever there are someone with views against them rather than BBW, they will keep quit.. some offline.. and most trolling Make no mistake,there may not be a bubble but the current CAGR increase of more 10% to 15% and more in property prices will do more harm than good in.the long run.The government has finally woken up and realized this but the steps taken to address is too little too late. Eventually, we risk many lower and middle income who cannot afford to buy their own property, esp the current generation Y and beyond. As parents, we must buy more now cos our children will no longer be able to buy their own property in 15 to 20 yrs time |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM) of course we know...najib too, but to determine whether it is personal attack is now decided by the one uttering it rather than the other end receiving it.. no need personal attack lah......all sharing different views only see what position is he? he now say it is not a personal attack wor... typical |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Nov 6 2014, 11:35 AM) I assuming you don't know how to respect ppls even don't know how to respect ur family members. Agreed that respect is a mutual thing. What one receives sometimes is reflective of what it gives to others.Pls go back to ur dream land. I wonder why you don't like investor? If no investor in Malaysia. U think Malaysia will grow for the next 10yrs? Imagine 90% of the ppls don't spent. U think economic will grow? Investors are important, undeniable fact. IMO, for a property project, a mix of buyers, investors and speculators / flippers are part of the necessary ingredients to make it a success. |
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM) Make no mistake,there may not be a bubble but the current CAGR increase of more 10% to 15% and more in property prices will do more harm than good in.the long run. too late damage done, but also many middle class too in investing, these guys are trying to brain wash that price are not speculated but rather that it should be..The government has finally woken up and realized this but the steps taken to address is too little too late. Eventually, we risk many lower and middle income who cannot afford to buy their own property, esp the current generation Y and beyond. As parents, we must buy more now cos our children will no longer be able to buy their own property in 15 to 20 yrs time and spurring buyers to accept and upgrade and take in bigger debts to accommodate the house of the price and their expected profit.. they dunno what happening meh? they cashing out.. some rental and very few for own stay.. you yourself know how many genuine home owners are there in any property forum.. |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM) Make no mistake,there may not be a bubble but the current CAGR increase of more 10% to 15% and more in property prices will do more harm than good in.the long run. "The government has finally woken up and realized this but the steps taken to address is too little too late."The government has finally woken up and realized this but the steps taken to address is too little too late. Eventually, we risk many lower and middle income who cannot afford to buy their own property, esp the current generation Y and beyond. As parents, we must buy more now cos our children will no longer be able to buy their own property in 15 to 20 yrs time if u are Gov, wat will u do??? 3rd prop only can 70% max loan make many developer suffer.......any more good ways to reduce flipper?? 50% loan on 3rd house and 70% loan on 2nd house ok for u?? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 11:51 AM) if ppl already made their stand that GH is Kajang, then all your previous arguments are wasting time lor... I think no point of keep on arguing / repeating with you. We / I hear your voice.it is fact even buyers know Semenyih is far.. of course ppl get offended, Semenyih is far, you guys are trying to associate this with Semenyih and nirvana , prison, remember? |
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Nov 6 2014, 12:12 PM) Agreed that respect is a mutual thing. What one receives sometimes is reflective of what it gives to others. ...Investors are important, undeniable fact. IMO, for a property project, a mix of buyers, investors and speculators / flippers are part of the necessary ingredients to make it a success. This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jun 28 2021, 01:57 PM |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 12:13 PM) too late damage done, but also many middle class too in investing, these guys are trying to brain wash that price are not speculated but rather that it should be.. Never be too late.......thw World still not END yet....... and spurring buyers to accept and upgrade and take in bigger debts to accommodate the house of the price and their expected profit.. they dunno what happening meh? they cashing out.. some rental and very few for own stay.. you yourself know how many genuine home owners are there in any property forum.. |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 12:16 PM) champion is here... I dun see I accepting the same when I am mentioning about the distance in Semenyih project? where are you and your mutual respect? skipping the legal profession part? ask him Z residence how many buyers vs speculators? OUG parklane?mixed of buyers investors and speculators? izzit, new thing we learn everyday, wondering why many projects are 80% vacant for 1 year.. mixture of buyers and speculators right? ask him Z residence how many buyers vs speculators? OUG parklane? I wish to kno...can share?? |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM) of course we know...najib too, but to determine whether it is personal attack is now decided by the one uttering it rather than the other end receiving it.. Watever is it. if u think too negative about my comment. im sincery sorry about that and make no harm to you.see what position is he? he now say it is not a personal attack wor... typical Hope you will get your dream house soon. |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Nov 6 2014, 12:19 PM) Watever is it. if u think too negative about my comment. im sincery sorry about that and make no harm to you. ok lor accepted apology... let the thread run back its own course..Hope you will get your dream house soon. you peers too back in bubble even worse... never meet any person of such.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 12:18 PM) after last year burget put 70% loan for 3rd house, all prop slow down a lot & many developer delay launch their new project.....I don't think price will keep increase very high on years 2014-2016......mayb 2017 is a good years if crisis did not come, if crisis come I hope is a very short period...... |
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QUOTE(Peri2014 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:14 PM) "The government has finally woken up and realized this but the steps taken to address is too little too late." First 2 properties - current scale RPGT as per budget 2014if u are Gov, wat will u do??? 3rd prop only can 70% max loan make many developer suffer.......any more good ways to reduce flipper?? 50% loan on 3rd house and 70% loan on 2nd house ok for u?? Third and subsequent property, 30% flat RPGT for first 10 yrs, after 10 yrs, 0% RPGT Third Housing Loan, 50% LTV with 12 mths cooling off period after clearing off previous Housing Loan Above okay with u guys, will not affect most long term investors who can afford 1 property for own stay and 1 for long term investment This post has been edited by cfa28: Nov 6 2014, 12:39 PM |
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Nov 6 2014, 12:26 PM
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There is no right or wrong.
IF BBW predict correctly. then he could able to buy his own dream house on that period of time. while we BBB mode, if there is still no bubbles. then BBW own nothings and didnt lose anythings right? Just m2c |
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Nov 6 2014, 01:20 PM
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so far i only identified only 2 buyers from lowyat.net~ anyone else bought?
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Hmm. I think the topic here is about Goodview Height, the most is difference between Semenyih, Kajang, Sungai Long only right?
My opinion, the distance 10 mins, from Kajang if use saujana impian highway, can reach near to Cheras Sentral already (not considering traffic jam). As an example, if from Kajang take 25 mins to reach KL, if traffic jam may up to 1 hour, and may consider far and jam staying in Kajang. Then you shift to Semenyih, which further, addition 10 mins, traffic jam another 20 mins. What my thinking is that, Kajang for me is the maximum acceptable distance from KL. Still personal preference again, eventhough there are Lekas, but still... Semenyih is a good investment or own stay ground, no doubt, there's a reason SP Setia, Ecoworld, Country Garden, MKH invest on those area. Because to north, like Rawang/Sg. buloh, or Setapak side, further that that there isn't any more suitable land for bigger development. Hence semenyih which are at north has bigger potential, due to its much empty land, which in future maybe another Petaling Jaya, but that would be at least 10yrs because previously is really just an old town. Again, Semenyih is a good area, but not preferable for me due to distance. If you can get anywhere nearer, why not? There are retail shoplot in GoodView Height, if consider thats the only retail at that area where Goodview residents will depend on, I think retailer will have interest on doing business there. According to the quantities of housing lot (more than 500 units not including the apartment), actually its not little at all. |
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If for property market investment, what I can say that location for investment is very important, because not only one time selling gain, but also consider rental gain. Future investment market is into MRT, which condo can have more positive revenue.
I was in Singapore for years previously, the property near MRT is much difference compare to others, and no worry no rental. One of my propertt is on rental, eventhough the property price for that already 3 times, but I still not wanting to sell it because there are rental income. Anyway, future market, i think condo will be the trend. While landed will be for own stay. Due to affordability and lack of land in Klang Valley. |
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I passed by Goodview Height via Silk Highway in one early morning, there is a lot of mist around there., something like Genting Highland feel ,i think this is the plus point for GH.
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 6 2014, 03:14 PM) Hmm. I think the topic here is about Goodview Height, the most is difference between Semenyih, Kajang, Sungai Long only right? friends...when u move in to stay??My opinion, the distance 10 mins, from Kajang if use saujana impian highway, can reach near to Cheras Sentral already (not considering traffic jam). As an example, if from Kajang take 25 mins to reach KL, if traffic jam may up to 1 hour, and may consider far and jam staying in Kajang. Then you shift to Semenyih, which further, addition 10 mins, traffic jam another 20 mins. What my thinking is that, Kajang for me is the maximum acceptable distance from KL. Still personal preference again, eventhough there are Lekas, but still... Semenyih is a good investment or own stay ground, no doubt, there's a reason SP Setia, Ecoworld, Country Garden, MKH invest on those area. Because to north, like Rawang/Sg. buloh, or Setapak side, further that that there isn't any more suitable land for bigger development. Hence semenyih which are at north has bigger potential, due to its much empty land, which in future maybe another Petaling Jaya, but that would be at least 10yrs because previously is really just an old town. Again, Semenyih is a good area, but not preferable for me due to distance. If you can get anywhere nearer, why not? There are retail shoplot in GoodView Height, if consider thats the only retail at that area where Goodview residents will depend on, I think retailer will have interest on doing business there. According to the quantities of housing lot (more than 500 units not including the apartment), actually its not little at all. |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 6 2014, 11:55 PM) oh no lar... not all agents... some ask commission, mark up for them, you know those kind of things and act bossy with 20 cents intelligence, pushing to go fast kononya vendor want to fast, but just want to take commission ( like only his file in this world) and dunno why most of them UTAR product.. agree lehh.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 12:01 AM) oh no lar... not all agents... some ask commission, mark up for them, you know those kind of things and act bossy with 20 cents intelligence, pushing to go fast kononya vendor want to fast, but just want to take commission ( like only his file in this world) and dunno why most of them UTAR product.. agree lehh.. Taikors, recently really not plan to buy 1 Highrise meh?? |
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 7 2014, 12:13 AM) Our bbw gor very rich one. Buy now pay too cheap. Agent n owner no meat to eat. Buy next year at higher price. Owner sell higher price. Agent make more commission n govt may be get 6% gst tax if bbw buy commercial title. Win win win mah... price drop next years?? who knos ?? |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:21 AM) Agreeable. High rise price nw quite unstable. Recession may have effect on new property. Just take note, 2007 recession didnt affect much on property pricing, however that time the property price not that high yet also, hence we can still believe. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 07:21 AM) Agreeable. High rise price nw quite unstable. Recession may have effect on new property. Just take note, 2007 recession didnt affect much on property pricing, however that time the property price not that high yet also, hence we can still believe. Recession time only God will kno....... |
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Goodview Heights being actively promoted on Radio - LiteFM Acasia West
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 08:59 AM) No. I no money buy that Mentioned in the previous post, from the layout plan:But I wanna congra. Good concept and nice design. Any idea how many unit in total phase 1 & 2?? got phase 3?? Cassia East (Phase 1) Approximate 22 x 75' = 130 units 22 x 80' = 27 units Cassia West (Phase 2) Approximate 22 x 75' = 200+ units 22 x 80' = 40 units Retail Shop Lot (Concurrent development with Phase 1 & 2) Should be more or less 150 units plus. Future Phases (no further details) Magnolia - Semi-D Tecoma - Terrace Apartments |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:28 PM) Mentioned in the previous post, from the layout plan: Ty for ur infor............Cassia East (Phase 1) Approximate 22 x 75' = 130 units 22 x 80' = 27 units Cassia West (Phase 2) Approximate 22 x 75' = 200+ units 22 x 80' = 40 units Retail Shop Lot (Concurrent development with Phase 1 & 2) Should be more or less 150 units plus. Future Phases (no further details) Magnolia - Semi-D Tecoma - Terrace Apartments Today Sin Chew Full Page A&P......Look very nice the design&Concept really wanna buy grap 1 biji |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:28 PM) Mentioned in the previous post, from the layout plan: when can move in??Cassia East (Phase 1) Approximate 22 x 75' = 130 units 22 x 80' = 27 units Cassia West (Phase 2) Approximate 22 x 75' = 200+ units 22 x 80' = 40 units Retail Shop Lot (Concurrent development with Phase 1 & 2) Should be more or less 150 units plus. Future Phases (no further details) Magnolia - Semi-D Tecoma - Terrace Apartments |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:40 PM) Ty for ur infor............ haizzz... very nice GHToday Sin Chew Full Page A&P......Look very nice the design&Concept really wanna buy grap 1 biji this is propeety market injury time.. buying expensive reli dumb feeling... This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 7 2014, 01:10 PM |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 02:16 PM) Not possible lah. now structure work also not really consider complete yet. electrical, telecom, plaster ceiling, roof,, drainage, road works etc leh.Surrounding landscape also still doing, the waterfall, garden, water stream etc. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 02:28 PM) Not possible lah. now structure work also not really consider complete yet. electrical, telecom, plaster ceiling, roof,, drainage, road works etc leh. This not BTS project meh?? I tot BTS must handover key between 2 month??Surrounding landscape also still doing, the waterfall, garden, water stream etc. |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 02:30 PM) Not one will have the exact requirement of Built-Then-Sell concept, the only that important to me is that, the development is built 70% completed, and Bank will only release the remaining loan amount when CF issued, hence no construction interest will be charged. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:07 PM) Not one will have the exact requirement of Built-Then-Sell concept, the only that important to me is that, the development is built 70% completed, and Bank will only release the remaining loan amount when CF issued, hence no construction interest will be charged. than this should call VPTS=VP Than Sales ???BTS, Build= Not VP yet ?? |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:10 PM) there are basically 2-models in MYBTS - Build Then Sell - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of completion. Pray no abandoned project STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan the 10:90% STB (or BTS) - Pay 10% on SPA and balance 90% upon VP |
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:14 PM) there are basically 2-models in MY BTS - Build Then Sell - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of completion. Pray no abandoned project STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan the 10:90% STB (or BTS) - Pay 10% on SPA and balance 90% upon VP |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:10 PM) Actually people will only concern BTS system is that bank will only release the remaining loan amount to developer when CF issued, so that developer cannot run away with all the money. Moreover, 70-80% completed when selling time, no developer will stupid enough to abandone the project at that point of completion.VP then Sell or not, as long the concept and benefit is correct. |
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:14 PM) there are basically 2-models in MY why potpourri ara damansara do not use STB concepts??BTS - Build Then Sell - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of completion. Pray no abandoned project STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan the 10:90% STB (or BTS) - Pay 10% on SPA and balance 90% upon VP |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:17 PM) Actually people will only concern BTS system is that bank will only release the remaining loan amount to developer when CF issued, so that developer cannot run away with all the money. Moreover, 70-80% completed when selling time, no developer will stupid enough to abandone the project at that point of completion. Got Point VP then Sell or not, as long the concept and benefit is correct. Very good |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:18 PM) For these two:BTS - Build Then Sell - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of completion. Pray no abandoned project STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan I think you have terbalik these two. STB is what 99% developer are doing. |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:28 PM) For these two: confuise...... BTS - Build Then Sell - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of completion. Pray no abandoned project STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan I think you have terbalik these two. STB is what 99% developer are doing. any sifu can clearify this??? |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:30 PM) I no sifu but to my understanding.BTS mean you build then you sell, meaning the house should be almost complete then developer starts selling. STB mean collect DP first then starts building, which is practice by almost all the developer now. Why so confused ?? |
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 7 2014, 05:43 PM) I no sifu but to my understanding. ""STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan""BTS mean you build then you sell, meaning the house should be almost complete then developer starts selling. STB mean collect DP first then starts building, which is practice by almost all the developer now. Why so confused ?? This 1 correct?? |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:46 PM) ""STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan"" My 2 kupang knowledge think is wrong.This 1 correct?? Sell then build is like most of the project in the market, developer already collect money even before put on 1 pillar. |
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I copy this and do the correction below to avoid u guys confusing.
STB - Sell then build - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell or received booking before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of stage ofcompletion. Pray no abandoned project BTS - Built then sell (100% model) - Only very strong financial Developer will do this. Built 90-100% completion or completed unit with / pending CCC ( CFO ) |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 05:46 PM) ""STB - Sell Then Build (100% model) - Only very stromg Developer will do this. Sell 100% completed unit with CF - See Hoy Chan"" Not correct.This 1 correct?? Why most developer perform STB because when in construction period (normally beginning or in the midst when main contractor awarded), developer can start to sell, not only gain the 10% deposit but bank also will also periodically release the loan amount to developer depending on 30%, 50% etc of construction. So that developer will have these money for the construction. Thats why most developer perform STB. BTS can only apply for developer that financially strong and have stable construction strategy that wont delay or lose money becayse they can only collect full payment from bank when handover during CF. These are the clarification. |
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 7 2014, 07:30 PM) I copy this and do the correction below to avoid u guys confusing. sifu ...... STB - Sell then build - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell or received booking before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of stage ofcompletion. Pray no abandoned project BTS - Built then sell (100% model) - Only very strong financial Developer will do this. Built 90-100% completion or completed unit with / pending CCC ( CFO ) this is clear..... |
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 7 2014, 07:30 PM) I copy this and do the correction below to avoid u guys confusing. Lol... chris gor, still discussing STB and BTS huh? Already discuss long time ago mah... STB - Sell then build - what 99% of Developer are doing. Developer sell or received booking before construction, we buy, get charged as construction is being done based on % of stage ofcompletion. Pray no abandoned project BTS - Built then sell (100% model) - Only very strong financial Developer will do this. Built 90-100% completion or completed unit with / pending CCC ( CFO ) STB - developer launching using current price as they using purchaser's loan money to roll the cash flow. The initial selling price normally is lower than subsale price. Purchaser may need to bear the risk developer will gulung tikar coz can't manage cash flow well, this risk however is minimum for the reputable developer. BTS - developer launching using subsale price, coz developer can't use loan money from purchaser for cash flow. To cover the losses of cash flow, developer normally will jack up the house price as the subsale. Purchaser normally need to buy such houses with higher price (as like developer selling subsale), but since developer already fork out a lot cash for the project, the risk for such developer to abandon the project is very minimum too.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 01:39 PM) I am not an agent, guess so long you see me comment you have know... it is not an investment ground for sure.. BBW, we discussed long long time already mah... if there are in the 1st phase, probably now would have been slamming chairs and table, developers launching 2nd phase 738800 i.e around 10k more than 1st phase... given there are no rebates schemes, and completion coming next year April, 1st phase hand keys, start to service loans, and bare in mind S&P sign now, 5 years from now still RPGT, that would be 2014 +5 = 2019 no PRGT.. if developers continue to launch with extra 10k each phase, dun dream investment.. but tropicana cheras more expensive right? 800k upwards, but many rebates.. freebies . goodview got highway access and roads connecting to kajang perdana , shops, till now will have to gamble, nth to eat and no access road yrt to kajang perdana Buyer of goodview height can be flipper as well, just not flipper for VP loh, is flipper for 4 years later, can also mah... SEH first phase no rebate also woh, straight 10% downpayment, so?? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 01:41 PM) can see not as hot semenyih and other areas, this is built and sell concept, explanation as per above, RPGT, loan servicing start very fast, and new phases are launching extra 10k more, not investment ground.. BBW, 250 units how many are for staffs and associate jek? no rebates, no freebies and etc, but ironically 1st phase all 250 units sell off, second phase only 55 units test water market, 1 week only finish about 30 units, not as hot as semenyih... but own stay is confirm, those investors jumping here going to get burned SEH DSL first phase launch 600 units, 200 units go to associates and staffs liao woh... This post has been edited by samkps: Nov 7 2014, 08:33 PM |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 05:10 PM) so good and confirm sale township no need give rebates 7 freebies already lor... straight ask 10% hard deposit and deliver it 6 months after that like goodview BTS... Goodview also give freebies like those SPA legal fees mah... how good are they now? you notice you skipped the freebies section in TH... Everyone also like rebates and freebies mah, you dun like meh? Take a 700k property for example, 3% discount only 21k mah, can be used to pay MOT later mah... Goodview height MOT developer absorb or not? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 08:27 PM) BBW, we discussed long long time already mah... u oso got strong point......GH oso can Flip after 4 or 5 years when good price, when we sales that time consider flipper?? Buyer of goodview height can be flipper as well, just not flipper for VP loh, is flipper for 4 years later, can also mah... SEH first phase no rebate also woh, straight 10% downpayment, so?? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 08:52 PM) like this, S&P concept not to say no credit, to attract young buyers they are hit the target, BBW ah... already ask you do more survey in Semenyih property before give info mah.. if S&P setia project is located at bandar mahkota cheras, then no need you to line up, me also line up to buy.. this project needs the concept and the easy entry to attract ppl in buying, try reduce 1 of the concept or price factor see got these kind of heat or not.. price factor, further with low entry factor are the main pushing factor, without it even investors will go away.. that price start 400k plus for a reason, ownstay, not short term investment like after 5 years... try changing it to 40k DP , see how and what it will happen? You know the price of Semenyih DSL before SP Setia going in or not? MKH Pelangi Semenyih 2, which launched end 2011 / starting 2012 only selling around 300k ++ woh, 20 x 70 some more, go and check true or not. SP Setia launch price is 408k, 20 x 65 only (now you say cheap), basically already at least 20% higher than the surrounding development loh, during last year lah. People still buying is because its affordability in a great township mah. As I say many times already, for SEH, people can buy it for own stay or flip, but cannot flip during VP loh, after 5 years when the township stepping to mature stage already, then can consider loh, no? This post has been edited by samkps: Nov 7 2014, 08:48 PM |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 4 2014, 08:53 PM) BBW, you really think those 20 discount for a purchaser that afford to buy a 700k property really that important and crucial ah? Without that, will never consider to buy ah? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 10:39 AM) yup MKH east is not a bad choice too, just access road a bit far though... not direct to LEKAS.. Different SA tell you different thing mah... Last week my friend went to goodview height and being told there is still unit available for phase 1 one, loan reject unit, you trust or not? good view as of lst week, should stand around 30 units out of 55 units launched since deepavali, just call Sin heap lee office will know.. warn you, for own stay only... cannot flip... 1st phase ppl thinking to flip will be cursing , developers launching 2nd phase at 10k extra along that highway, after twin plams, there are developments in Tman pusara too, behind the tropicana.. can see the surian residence 3 strorey from there |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 08:48 PM) BBW ah... already ask you do more survey in Semenyih property before give info mah.. "People still buying is because its affordability in a great township mah." You know the price of Semenyih DSL before SP Setia going in or not? MKH Pelangi Semenyih 2, which launched end 2011 / starting 2012 only selling around 300k ++ woh, 20 x 70 some more, go and check true or not. SP Setia launch price is 408k, 20 x 65 only (now you say cheap), basically already at least 20% higher than the surrounding development loh, during last year lah. People still buying is because its affordability in a great township mah. As I say many times already, for SEH, people can buy it for own stay or flip, but cannot flip during VP loh, after 5 years when the township stepping to mature stage already, then can consider loh, no? |
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Nov 7 2014, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 11:06 AM) guess brainwashing starts.. and trolling too... Different people have different preference mah, some like tenderfield, some like parkfield, some like goodview, own preference loh. ppl already say GH is a good home owned/staying projects... u trolls know why they prefer this over park field, tender fields? ask them as purchasers.. take alook at TTDI groove kajang, vacant or not? look at Mutiara villa saujana suria area, damm vcant units since vp... But who the hell are you that can say only goodview is good, all own stay while others all flipper buy it, will become ghost town.. How many people will be convinced with your broken crystal ball oh? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 11:09 AM) if this is happening then it is well and good... a healthy growth, at least the shops and resident will have been up and booming, if badly invested, ghost town, no shops no open and etc.. people sell 700k you mah dun buy loh, I sell you mine 550k loh, deal or no deal? not like pon vp sflip 400k, take a look at Semenyih 1st phase SEH, sure 700k one... the same buyers from Setia Alam |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 08:52 PM) BBW, you really think those 20 discount for a purchaser that afford to buy a 700k property really that important and crucial ah? Without that, will never consider to buy ah? there are alot of ppl who can afford to buy 700k, 800, 900k no doubt... question is those ppl who can afford these price tags are usually have a good house on thier own or have own a better location than these...so that would left option of leaving for kids or investment... if the project is of good height scheme, you sure those ppl who can afford such price will DIP in? Goodview @ sg long still have many 2.5 storey under developers hands, location is undeniable, concept, size and etc.. but sellling 998k.. cant finish... |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 7 2014, 07:31 PM) Not correct. conclution SHL > than Sp setia Why most developer perform STB because when in construction period (normally beginning or in the midst when main contractor awarded), developer can start to sell, not only gain the 10% deposit but bank also will also periodically release the loan amount to developer depending on 30%, 50% etc of construction. So that developer will have these money for the construction. Thats why most developer perform STB. BTS can only apply for developer that financially strong and have stable construction strategy that wont delay or lose money becayse they can only collect full payment from bank when handover during CF. These are the clarification. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 11:34 AM) come on that measn ask me dun comment? why not u tell those ppl stop trolling? cant you see they are just trolling? SEH and EM very near to Lekas highway, consider disadvantage or not? since you are semenyih buyer, there cannot be only advantage to sp setia project there, name us some disadvantage... I cant tell disadvantage, coz will get flamed, we have senior lawyers who follow law practice like god given statute but keeping a blind eye on next door neighbour of same profession "i dun jaga tepi kain " this is a piece of advice from seniors who control bar council? I am a human, not a super hero, if it is beyond out capability, how to jaga tepi orang lain? Sendiri don't do mai okay loh... |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:00 PM) there are alot of ppl who can afford to buy 700k, 800, 900k no doubt... question is those ppl who can afford these price tags are usually have a good house on thier own or have own a better location than these... BBW suddenly come out...... so that would left option of leaving for kids or investment... if the project is of good height scheme, you sure those ppl who can afford such price will DIP in? Goodview @ sg long still have many 2.5 storey under developers hands, location is undeniable, concept, size and etc.. but sellling 998k.. cant finish... |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 08:27 PM) BBW, we discussed long long time already mah... sure, flipper here also need to be strong in cash for the 1st 4 years... and higher DP... and open risk to RPGT..Buyer of goodview height can be flipper as well, just not flipper for VP loh, is flipper for 4 years later, can also mah... SEH first phase no rebate also woh, straight 10% downpayment, so?? for Sp and other same model, 1-2 years goyang kaki, 3 rd year shall be (Shl 1ST YEAR) , loan serviced lower, lower entry, reduced RPGT effect for 2 years during construction.. at the end, one need to service more loans in SHL model ( could be strong cash, as this is sure pay amount ) the other models are not , well you know.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:02 PM) BBW taikor, buy this:Property Type : Gated & Guarded 3 storey Super-Link houses Total Units : 76 houses - 1st Phase Land : Freehold Residential The houses are all 3 storeys with 5 Bedroom + 1 Utility room and 5 Bathrooms. There are 3 basic house Types: Type A - 22 x 70 : 2,896 sf : 24 units RM 899k onwards Type B - 22 x 70 : 2,892 sf : 26 units RM 890k onwards Type C - 20 x 70 : 2,750 sf : 8 units - RM 800k onwards (Type A & B Corner & End Lots : 18 units) Prices above are after rebate and there might still be some slight changes before official booking starts. Location : Persiaraan Sepang, Cyberjaya, Selangor DE (Opposite Lake Front Residences by MCT) |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:00 PM) there are alot of ppl who can afford to buy 700k, 800, 900k no doubt... question is those ppl who can afford these price tags are usually have a good house on thier own or have own a better location than these... You dun let the people want to upgrade meh? Used to be condo, now want to upgrade to DSL for the kids and family, cannot meh? so that would left option of leaving for kids or investment... if the project is of good height scheme, you sure those ppl who can afford such price will DIP in? Goodview @ sg long still have many 2.5 storey under developers hands, location is undeniable, concept, size and etc.. but sellling 998k.. cant finish... As I say many times already, many people tends to stay in landed compare to highrise, 700k DSL in a full GnG township with luxury 3.7 acres greenery park within the guarded precint, you cannot deny there are people that would like such environment mah.. 700k where you can get such landed house that is near to KL and with such features? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:05 PM) sure, flipper here also need to be strong in cash for the 1st 4 years... and higher DP... and open risk to RPGT.. Taikor, how is that CBJ landed project?? 800K@310psft for Sp and other same model, 1-2 years goyang kaki, 3 rd year shall be (Shl 1ST YEAR) , loan serviced lower, lower entry, reduced RPGT effect for 2 years during construction.. at the end, one need to service more loans in SHL model ( could be strong cash, as this is sure pay amount ) the other models are not , well you know.. worth to buy bor?? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:05 PM) sure, flipper here also need to be strong in cash for the 1st 4 years... and higher DP... and open risk to RPGT.. Yaloh... Actually this is the kind of flipper you need to scare of, they are cash rich and able to sustain long time. Once they set the sell price, either you take it or leave it.. for Sp and other same model, 1-2 years goyang kaki, 3 rd year shall be (Shl 1ST YEAR) , loan serviced lower, lower entry, reduced RPGT effect for 2 years during construction.. at the end, one need to service more loans in SHL model ( could be strong cash, as this is sure pay amount ) the other models are not , well you know.. So finally can lead to birth of a ghost town.. |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:11 PM) You dun let the people want to upgrade meh? Used to be condo, now want to upgrade to DSL for the kids and family, cannot meh? just thinking when he will start buy??As I say many times already, many people tends to stay in landed compare to highrise, 700k DSL in a full GnG township with luxury 3.7 acres greenery park within the guarded precint, you cannot deny there are people that would like such environment mah.. 700k where you can get such landed house that is near to KL and with such features? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:02 PM) SEH and EM very near to Lekas highway, consider disadvantage or not? U are wrong, when seniors controlling the bar do also acted jaga tepi kain, how to expect the juniors to salvage the situations? they are in power and do not use them...I am a human, not a super hero, if it is beyond out capability, how to jaga tepi orang lain? Sendiri don't do mai okay loh... repeat the dun jaga tepi kain in front of juniors and seniors openly, what ever giant firm also will be f upside down.. |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:11 PM) You dun let the people want to upgrade meh? Used to be condo, now want to upgrade to DSL for the kids and family, cannot meh? that means semenyih are aiming for upgrade?.. then many high rise in kl will collapse..As I say many times already, many people tends to stay in landed compare to highrise, 700k DSL in a full GnG township with luxury 3.7 acres greenery park within the guarded precint, you cannot deny there are people that would like such environment mah.. 700k where you can get such landed house that is near to KL and with such features? must be using the analogy " since high rise in kl are reaching 650k, why not top another 100k to buy landed in Semenyih? samkps ( I will do so).. though not all are working in KL, but most are.. i see it like this, SP projects before launch many ppl line up long long for a unit.. and it cost 400k above, with (superb concept) good access, still need low entry? the low entry & freebies are selling points.. GH also new launch, do you see ppl line up overnight for it? GH is concept may not be as fancy as SP, does it seems bad? can pretty much know one is investment or otherwise right? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:14 PM) Yaloh... Actually this is the kind of flipper you need to scare of, they are cash rich and able to sustain long time. Once they set the sell price, either you take it or leave it.. the entry is the main and selling concept i.e BTS are the main factors of the differing demands in SP & GH right?So finally can lead to birth of a ghost town.. many ppl would know Semenyih are heavily invested by many, maybe you are not.. ask someone not from Semenyih projects.. if Chris is buying in rows, do you think he is staying there? This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 7 2014, 09:26 PM |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:18 PM) U are wrong, when seniors controlling the bar do also acted jaga tepi kain, how to expect the juniors to salvage the situations? they are in power and do not use them... Very chium.. don't understand Tim??repeat the dun jaga tepi kain in front of juniors and seniors openly, what ever giant firm also will be f upside down.. Can u simple way to explain? |
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QUOTE(dominic86 @ Nov 5 2014, 10:38 AM) I bought a unit in Goodview Height Phase 1. Phase 1 named as Cassia East while Phase 2 as Cassia West, difference should be facing slightly east and west also and based on compass direction. First of all, congratulate with your purchase.. For me, it's for my own stay, I like the house a lot, and red brick concept is always what me and my partner dream. Yes, the access is not so friendly, but still, there are two access at TTDI Grove / Saujana Impian highway there. If travelling from Goodview Height to KL, use the Silk Highway pay RM1 toll for access to Sg. Besi Highway or Cheras Highway; if travelling from KL to Goodview Height, use the TTDI Grove access. What's the problem? This will eventually avoid the common jam in Sg.Long or BMC as well. The development yes is not a township like EcoMajestic, Ecohill or Setia Alam, as no school as well, but this would constitute to quiet environment and nice to stay. Two guardhouse for each area (1 for main entrance, 1 for each Cassia entrance), double tier. Free maintenance/security fees for first two years. Free video intercom provided for each unit as well. Good Landscape environment. If you know the market well (which I think I quite good, and I'm working in developer myself), in Klang Valley, there are already very little new Landed House available, as for GoodView Height consider quite affordable pricing comparing to others. There is other option like sub-sale or condo, but even condo nowaday in cheras area is selling even more costly than this, so you think. Goodview Height is not Semenyih, but is Kajang / Sg. Long, so think before you conclude this. If you compare Ecohill or Ecomajestic which is truly is Semenyih (further than Semenyih Town). Although there is Lekas highway, if you are from Kajang, you will understand Semenyih is actually 'Far'. So, it's your choice, for me Goodview Height is very good. A friend of mine even say regret getting MKH Kajang East, should have go for Goodview Height. There are a few points that need to be clarified: 1.) Will goodview height fully fenced and guarded or shall let the JMC to do it? 2.) How many entry points to goodview height? Developer building double guardhouses solely for tightening the security and no other purpose? 3.) What is the expected maintenance fees for goodview height since it is consisted of double guardhouse? 4.) Goodview height confirm is building on a piece of land that registered under mukim semenyih. Goodview height is located at the border between semenyih and kajang, the land after the silk highway actually all semenyih land. So it is considered located in between kajang / semenyih, or another word within kajang-semenyih corridor. 5.) So the jelok impian connecting road shall be single lane or dual lane? Connecting road from EM/SEH till jelok impian all highway or dual lane bypass woh. If you are okay with the location of goodview height, I really cannot understand why you would still consider they are "far". Be frankly, from my perception, they are just nearby, especially connected by highway. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:25 PM) the entry is the main and selling concept i.e BTS are the main factors of the differing demands in SP & GH right? Lol, as I say, I will not know who is investor and who is for home stay. many ppl would know Semenyih are heavily invested by many, maybe you are not.. ask someone not from Semenyih projects.. if Chris is buying in rows, do you think he is staying there? You perception to judge who is investor and who is for home stay from "how they talk" really amuse me and I personally feel it is just too naive. Listen to people hearsay only is very dangerous, better wait after the completion and then only comment. Many people telling me those buying tiara east 3 years are "committing suicide" as well, but hey now I can see there are more and more people moving in and some renovations are going on there as well... |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:31 PM) to be honest.. I have not much hope in CJ areas... most probably Malai area & gov area.. Chinese food would be a good bench mark.. you see any? mayb thing will change.....I believe more Chinese will start staying CBJ for coming few years..... I got same feeling as BBW when last 3 week I visit CBJ - "most probably Malai area & gov area" |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:37 PM) Lol, as I say, I will not know who is investor and who is for home stay. how do you come about they are home owners? not the same way?You perception to judge who is investor and who is for home stay from "how they talk" really amuse me and I personally feel it is just too naive. Listen to people hearsay only is very dangerous, better wait after the completion and then only comment. Many people telling me those buying tiara east 3 years are "committing suicide" as well, but hey now I can see there are more and more people moving in and some renovations are going on there as well... more and more what ppl? This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 7 2014, 09:41 PM |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:23 PM) that means semenyih are aiming for upgrade?.. then many high rise in kl will collapse.. Told you already mah... SEH selling 400k DSL no rebate mah, straight away paying 40-50k as downpayment woh.must be using the analogy " since high rise in kl are reaching 650k, why not top another 100k to buy landed in Semenyih? samkps ( I will do so).. though not all are working in KL, but most are.. i see it like this, SP projects before launch many ppl line up long long for a unit.. and it cost 400k above, with (superb concept) good access, still need low entry? the low entry & freebies are selling points.. GH also new launch, do you see ppl line up overnight for it? GH is concept may not be as fancy as SP, does it seems bad? can pretty much know one is investment or otherwise right? Highrise in kL won;t collapse lah, you know how many people come to KV cari makan or further study every year from different state boh... Lol, already told you mah, SHL now selling goodview height as subsale mah, subsale where need people to line up overnight leh? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:18 PM) U are wrong, when seniors controlling the bar do also acted jaga tepi kain, how to expect the juniors to salvage the situations? they are in power and do not use them... Wrong... repeat the dun jaga tepi kain in front of juniors and seniors openly, what ever giant firm also will be f upside down.. If every seniors controlling the bar can behave properly and jaga their own juniors properly, do you think jaga tepi kain is needed? You thought everyone also suka suka go confront other people meh? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:41 PM) Told you already mah... SEH selling 400k DSL no rebate mah, straight away paying 40-50k as downpayment woh. big market... not investing in KL highrise? currently reaching 700k above after rebate like green residence 1200 sqHighrise in kL won;t collapse lah, you know how many people come to KV cari makan or further study every year from different state boh... Lol, already told you mah, SHL now selling goodview height as subsale mah, subsale where need people to line up overnight leh? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:47 PM) Wrong... kkIf every seniors controlling the bar can behave properly and jaga their own juniors properly, do you think jaga tepi kain is needed? You thought everyone also suka suka go confront other people meh? This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jun 28 2021, 02:06 PM |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:49 PM) About 10km center to center loh... why? Semenyih and Kajang are well connected with Lekas, Silk and dual lane bypass mah.May I ask how far Goodview height to kajang center then? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:50 PM) ok lor, just a side from the answer, you have lots of friends in Semenyih threads, say if next year end hand keys and they are not staying there, you feel sad? or not? |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:52 PM) About 10km center to center loh... why? Semenyih and Kajang are well connected with Lekas, Silk and dual lane bypass mah. if you read clearly, buyers of GH already answer this.. distance issue, they are up in arms to have include GH into Semenyih, and they do say "far"May I ask how far Goodview height to kajang center then? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:52 PM) first of all, jaga tepi kain is not simply jaga, you are empowered to do so, otherwise dun take the position right or not? nah... BBW, this time you really confusing people lagi.. then you holding the power for what? giving discounts is not allow, that also seniors sked to confront? cannot always live in your owns small world , you have your established business through bigger under table, point gun small fish? same like current regime... big time money whack cant see, small time whacker no justice is fairer than Malaysia.. typical sapu money group and you are in it.. btw, not everyone are allowed do this, only members.. jaga tepi kain - not your responsibility but you see something not right, then need to report here and report there cause you have no capability to solve it If you are holding power to commit the task, that's call responsibility and not call jaga tepi kain okay.. People work in big law firm doesn't mean always can have the power to control other mah... |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:53 PM) ok lor, just a side from the answer, you have lots of friends in Semenyih threads, say if next year end hand keys and they are not staying there, you feel sad? or not? Lol... you are not me, how you know my fren shall not stay there? You thought my friend only in Lyn ah? Don't be so naive lah, how many people is here woh.. If all the SEH/EM purchasers come to lyn spit on you once only, I think you also maybe drowning loh... I have some friends, even colleague say will stay in SEH / EM later woh.. |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:59 PM) Lol... you are not me, how you know my fren shall not stay there? You thought my friend only in Lyn ah? Don't be so naive lah, how many people is here woh.. If all the SEH/EM purchasers come to lyn spit on you once only, I think you also maybe drowning loh... u 2 is too PRO.....newb as me hard understand I have some friends, even colleague say will stay in SEH / EM later woh.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:55 PM) if you read clearly, buyers of GH already answer this.. distance issue, they are up in arms to have include GH into Semenyih, and they do say "far" Lol.. simple, they don't really understand Semenyih location and how it will be after the connecting road is up.After the infra is up, I bet many people will say, hey this is not the semenyih road that i used to know... |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 10:18 PM) No wonder.....Newb as me still not learn any of Davinci code, Sam KOR, if u free teach me little ok?? No need Da Vinci code lah, Bear2 SMK students he 1st language is BM, So use BM he will understand.Bear2 kamu pagi malam merapu pasal SEH & EM buat pe ? hang mampu ke tak ? Kalo mampu beli je ! Kalo tak mampu usah jaga tepi kain orang, biar le dia orang nak tinggal ke, nak bela burung ke, hang apa susah ? Asalkan dia orang bahagia, kan kan ? |
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 7 2014, 10:55 PM) No need Da Vinci code lah, Bear2 SMK students he 1st language is BM, So use BM he will understand. Lu punya BM byk kuat....BBW tahu keh lu punya BM bor?? X kut dia x faham..... Bear2 kamu pagi malam merapu pasal SEH & EM buat pe ? hang mampu ke tak ? Kalo mampu beli je ! Kalo tak mampu usah jaga tepi kain orang, biar le dia orang nak tinggal ke, nak bela burung ke, hang apa susah ? Asalkan dia orang bahagia, kan kan ? |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 09:40 PM) Bbw..... GH not selling well? Why need heavy adv oh?....... DDD always says good project no need adv mah........ QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 7 2014, 09:18 AM) QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:40 PM) |
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Guys, BTS or STB is influenced and determined by few factors like policy, law, market, etc. The one in Malaysia is a very classical and conventional type which has run for half a century I think. Has pros and cons between the two but most developed countries are BTS. Some developing countries are BTS too.
Spend some time in reading the below 2 local research papers. It give you much insights. http://eprints.usm.my/7957/1/DTERMINANT_FA...OIN_OF_VIEW.pdf http://idosi.org/wasj/wasj12(4)/24.pdf This post has been edited by ckl1998: Nov 8 2014, 02:18 AM |
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QUOTE(samkps @ Nov 7 2014, 09:59 PM) Lol... you are not me, how you know my fren shall not stay there? You thought my friend only in Lyn ah? Don't be so naive lah, how many people is here woh.. If all the SEH/EM purchasers come to lyn spit on you once only, I think you also maybe drowning loh... No need to spit at bearbear. He is jz a tin kosong trolling around. Actualy he is pityful one. His salary only 4k. With dat salary, his choice of prop and location is very limited. He can only afford to join pipu in forum discussion on prop but he cant afford to buy one himself. So most of the time he got envy and jealous with owner like u and talk bad bout the prop. Wat do u expect pipu like bearbear who never buy prop b4 v no experience but tryin to talk like a prop guru. Pls pardon him. Kesian him.I have some friends, even colleague say will stay in SEH / EM later woh.. This post has been edited by CloudAtla$: Nov 8 2014, 08:10 AM |
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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ Nov 8 2014, 02:15 AM) Guys, BTS or STB is influenced and determined by few factors like policy, law, market, etc. The one in Malaysia is a very classical and conventional type which has run for half a century I think. Has pros and cons between the two but most developed countries are BTS. Some developing countries are BTS too. TySpend some time in reading the below 2 local research papers. It give you much insights. http://eprints.usm.my/7957/1/DTERMINANT_FA...OIN_OF_VIEW.pdf http://idosi.org/wasj/wasj12(4)/24.pdf |
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 08:02 AM) No need to spit at bearbear. He is jza tin josong trolling around. Actualy he is pityful one. His salary only 4k. With dat salary, his choice of prop and location is very limited. He can only afford to join pipu in forum discussion on prop but he cant afford to buy one himself. So most of the time he got envy and jealous with owner like u and talk bad bout the prop. Wat do u expect pipu like bearbear who never buy prop b4 v no experience but tryin to talk like a prop guru. Pls pardon him. Kesian him. haha kawan, salary 4K oso can own a house ma...... how come u so sure he only 4K?? |
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Peri peri khor, pls support bearbear in bubble thread. He alone there so kesian. U his no 1 fansi, pls support him.
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 08:18 AM) Peri peri khor, pls support bearbear in bubble thread. He alone there so kesian. U his no 1 fansi, pls support him. bubble susah cakap.....cannot folo him blink blink punya.......if bubble come I more scare cos 3 property still in installment and just bought this years https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3392892/+520 |
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Heard good view height advertise in radio every morning...normally only those projects with very bad sales only will put money to advertise in media, somemore SHL is consider very kiam siap developer, so if put money in advertisement, means really bad sales.....so those phase 1 sold out la, maybe just sticker game...
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 08:24 AM) Heard good view height advertise in radio every morning...normally only those projects with very bad sales only will put money to advertise in media, somemore SHL is consider very kiam siap developer, so if put money in advertisement, means really bad sales.....so those phase 1 sold out la, maybe just sticker game... Got Point. Some project never see got A&P. All ppl dun kno anything than kena sapu habis. |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 08:21 AM) bubble susah cakap.....cannot folo him blink blink punya.......if bubble come I more scare cos 3 property still in installment and just bought this years Thn u in big trouble now. Bearbear the prop guru predic next year 2015 after gst bubble burst. Thts whn bearbear pick all the dead chicken with his 4k salary. 700k+ prop will crash to 400k. Tht y he aim current 700k+ prop even he cant afford it now. But he can afford it next year. |
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 08:41 AM) Thn u in big trouble now. Bearbear the prop guru predic next year 2015 after gst bubble burst. Thts whn bearbear pick all the dead chicken with his 4k salary. 700k+ prop will crash to 400k. Tht y he aim current 700k+ prop even he cant afford it now. But he can afford it next year. sifu, prop not VP yet call sales to orther bor?? |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 08:24 AM) Heard good view height advertise in radio every morning...normally only those projects with very bad sales only will put money to advertise in media, somemore SHL is consider very kiam siap developer, so if put money in advertisement, means really bad sales.....so those phase 1 sold out la, maybe just sticker game... U can ask bear bear. He been in out the sales office many timez aimin one of the unit in phase1. He is goodview no 1 fansi. |
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This thread become.....you are poor....I am rich.....threas.....lol
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 08:24 AM) Heard good view height advertise in radio every morning...normally only those projects with very bad sales only will put money to advertise in media, somemore SHL is consider very kiam siap developer, so if put money in advertisement, means really bad sales.....so those phase 1 sold out la, maybe just sticker game... suspected so, if 1st phase is all sold out... or (maybe staff hold many units) and 2nd phase only open 55 units (sold 30 units), 20 units left should not need to heavily advertise... bad sales is very possible... how is S&P over there? bad sales dun hit 1 developers, it hits many..on top that, this will be interesting developments to subsales market, if developers sales suffering slow down isn't? |
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 08:41 AM) Thn u in big trouble now. Bearbear the prop guru predic next year 2015 after gst bubble burst. Thts whn bearbear pick all the dead chicken with his 4k salary. 700k+ prop will crash to 400k. Tht y he aim current 700k+ prop even he cant afford it now. But he can afford it next year. hahahaha ... keep guessing one salary and put figures whatever you like.. no body entertain in bubble talk you come here find me? more than that I think jolokia guess b4.. still here one, you joined us on the last survey and now keep coming..ur flats in damansara rental good hor |
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Setia eco hil and eco majestic project sell very well compare to this....due to better developer, better concept and reasonable pricing...not heard adverstise so heavily in media, especially eco hill, just launch and easilly sold 100%, affordable pricing for those who really need a landed home in good planning township to stay....
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:01 AM) suspected so, if 1st phase is all sold out... or (maybe staff hold many units) and 2nd phase only open 55 units (sold 30 units), 20 units left should not need to heavily advertise... bad sales is very possible... how is S&P over there? bad sales dun hit 1 developers, it hits many.. I think every way slow nows the day....many cannot get loan.....70% policy stop a lot of flipper on top that, this will be interesting developments to subsales market, if developers sales suffering slow down isn't? |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 09:05 AM) Setia eco hil and eco majestic project sell very well compare to this....due to better developer, better concept and reasonable pricing...not heard adverstise so heavily in media, especially eco hill, just launch and easilly sold 100%, affordable pricing for those who really need a landed home in good planning township to stay.... so good concept still affordable pricing? low entry lar tu...it a good platform for those who really really wanted to invest too? right?SP semenyih advertisement billboard ones, some faded billboards they change new.. since one bought SP everything goes.. we interested on the selling price, if GH really abd sales at 723k, the 1st phase of SP DSL going to have hard time subsales.. price tag are not far apart for subsales vs goodview right? |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 09:05 AM) Setia eco hil and eco majestic project sell very well compare to this....due to better developer, better concept and reasonable pricing...not heard adverstise so heavily in media, especially eco hill, just launch and easilly sold 100%, affordable pricing for those who really need a landed home in good planning township to stay.... SEH which 1 sold out 100% so geng just launch??Agreed this EM/SEH is very strong player....I wish to buy their property as well..... |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:10 AM) it a major slow down, not normal.. coz normally before GST, before year end ppl buy a lot due to coming new year which will increase price and GST... in other country b4 GST buying spree.. here looking and seeing spree only... like completely loss..the 70% loan restriction are for 3rd property above, 70% DSR are for 1st buyers and etc.. I say many investors out there, that explains why new launches finish within days while subsales takes year.. also cant finish, now even more important, to have see developers sales cant finish despite vp like Altitude 236, OUG parklane, strands of MK projects , SP setia, EM they going to see unsold new units even after vp especially those priced 600k above..' subsales dreams in these areas will have problem |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:14 AM) SEH which 1 sold out 100% so geng just launch?? of course, you see subsales later... takes years... so much for demand of property for own stay.. demand to invest is many out there..Agreed this EM/SEH is very strong player....I wish to buy their property as well..... developers also got the wrong signal , they thought demands, but demands to invest...see Setia Alam or not? that threads is completely silenced.. |
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Nov 8 2014, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:16 AM) it a major slow down, not normal.. coz normally before GST, before year end ppl buy a lot due to coming new year which will increase price and GST... in other country b4 GST buying spree.. here looking and seeing spree only... like completely loss.. "they going to see unsold new units even after vp especially those priced 600k above..''the 70% loan restriction are for 3rd property above, 70% DSR are for 1st buyers and etc.. I say many investors out there, that explains why new launches finish within days while subsales takes year.. also cant finish, now even more important, to have see developers sales cant finish despite vp like Altitude 236, OUG parklane, strands of MK projects , SP setia, EM they going to see unsold new units even after vp especially those priced 600k above..' subsales dreams in these areas will have problem This I agreed. 600K- monthly installment at lease 2700K with 35 years, not easy for those income 6000 and below |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:17 AM) of course, you see subsales later... takes years... so much for demand of property for own stay.. demand to invest is many out there.. Setia Alam is the one many ppl buy for invest and expect earn money when VP. developers also got the wrong signal , they thought demands, but demands to invest...see Setia Alam or not? that threads is completely silenced.. DST 18 x 60 wanna sales at 550K that time I ask....dman crazy |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 08:24 AM) Heard good view height advertise in radio every morning...normally only those projects with very bad sales only will put money to advertise in media, somemore SHL is consider very kiam siap developer, so if put money in advertisement, means really bad sales.....so those phase 1 sold out la, maybe just sticker game... By end of Nov SHL needs to announce their result for period ended 30/9/14 we can judge whether GVH sale slow or not? |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:19 AM) "they going to see unsold new units even after vp especially those priced 600k above..'' 6k consider high income? Normally tech skill workforce like IT, engineering and get 7k after 5 years working, those in sales n marketing, hardworking type can also hit 5 figures monthly...This I agreed. 600K- monthly installment at lease 2700K with 35 years, not easy for those income 6000 and below Husband and wife both working and combine income also not difficult more than 5 figure... Those who complaint expensive one normally are those cannot perform well at job, and get min increment, mostly those ppl who always spent time in forum and complaint tis and tat,, heaven n earth east and west.... Only can give tis ppl one advice" work hard, dun spent too much time on forum" |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 09:05 AM) Setia eco hil and eco majestic project sell very well compare to this....due to better developer, better concept and reasonable pricing...not heard adverstise so heavily in media, especially eco hill, just launch and easilly sold 100%, affordable pricing for those who really need a landed home in good planning township to stay.... Seh just saraca only 70% |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:19 AM) "they going to see unsold new units even after vp especially those priced 600k above..'' that means the property price has reach its apex already...This I agreed. 600K- monthly installment at lease 2700K with 35 years, not easy for those income 6000 and below 600k above properties , yes 2700k (only if the buyer still have the capacity to take on 35 years loan), buyers of single and with those salary can afford that sum and a decent car... well think further.. you can only afford it when you are single.. children? marriage? debts bound is coming in so, to sum it up, 600k above proeprties are not more landed section, guys in SP setia semenyih are greedy, looking 750k above.. this will be 3.2k plus, of course we can have joint incomes purchase.. but look again even jopint income group of ppl cant afford, joint income for 6k alot, but enough to run a family? cars ? 2 biji? pertol 2 biji? children? sumore semenyih haizzz pain of jam and etc.. even buy already also suffer, work KL, cannot afford not to work loan installments is every month |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 09:25 AM) 6k consider high income? Normally tech skill workforce like IT, engineering and get 7k after 5 years working, those in sales n marketing, hardworking type can also hit 5 figures monthly... haha.....u got point oso Husband and wife both working and combine income also not difficult more than 5 figure... Those who complaint expensive one normally are those cannot perform well at job, and get min increment, mostly those ppl who always spent time in forum and complaint tis and tat,, heaven n earth east and west.... Only can give tis ppl one advice" work hard, dun spent too much time on forum" |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:04 AM) hahahaha ... keep guessing one salary and put figures whatever you like.. no body entertain in bubble talk you come here find me? more than that I think jolokia guess b4.. still here one, you joined us on the last survey and now keep coming.. Dun hav to feel shy of ur salary. 4k is not too low. Fresh graduate startin pay now only 3k. Urs still better. But if u aim for 700k+ prop, ur loan application sure rejected unless ur prediction bubble burst after gst next year came true. Thn a lot of dead chicken waitin for u to choose.ur flats in damansara rental good hor I m oso ready to grab few units in flora whn prop crash next year. Sure can get positive rental yield. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:26 AM) that means the property price has reach its apex already... majority household income in KV I think is less than 8,000 (I guest 60%).600k above properties , yes 2700k (only if the buyer still have the capacity to take on 35 years loan), buyers of single and with those salary can afford that sum and a decent car... well think further.. you can only afford it when you are single.. children? marriage? debts bound is coming in so, to sum it up, 600k above proeprties are not more landed section, guys in SP setia semenyih are greedy, looking 750k above.. this will be 3.2k plus, of course we can have joint incomes purchase.. but look again even jopint income group of ppl cant afford, joint income for 6k alot, but enough to run a family? cars ? 2 biji? pertol 2 biji? children? sumore semenyih haizzz pain of jam and etc.. even buy already also suffer, work KL, cannot afford not to work loan installments is every month 60% too much?? this kind of group cannot spend more than 5000 on house/car/insurance... |
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 8 2014, 09:25 AM) 6k consider high income? Normally tech skill workforce like IT, engineering and get 7k after 5 years working, those in sales n marketing, hardworking type can also hit 5 figures monthly... hitting 5 figures joint is simple... many can, for IT 7k kind of ting... like this.. if the salary of what you mention are true, we should not be seeing major mass units waiting for sale out there, the bad developers sales not only GH..Husband and wife both working and combine income also not difficult more than 5 figure... Those who complaint expensive one normally are those cannot perform well at job, and get min increment, mostly those ppl who always spent time in forum and complaint tis and tat,, heaven n earth east and west.... Only can give tis ppl one advice" work hard, dun spent too much time on forum" those complain expensive are justifiable, the property price today you have forgotten, to factor in the speculated 200k above at least profit margin.. if you say it is not expensive, will you buy back for additional 200k subsales product even it is from Semenyih SP project? since you said it how good concept, how good planning? everything has a price, not speculated price find it hard to answer? I answer for you... NOO these simple minded ppl saying joint hits 5 digits defiantly can buy.. this is how investors thinks.. can borrow loans can buy already.. buyers with 10k is barely enough upon purchasing 600k above properties.. no cars? no children? if stay semenyih, double tolls, double petrol, double jam, that is the pain... investors they are not staying there.. i think 13k nett joint income will be the best to absord 700k properties above and outksirt.. only investors will bother defending and spend time negating bad effect on projects, home owners don't bother whatever you said they need to stay coz is their plan.. investors different, upon vp yellow banners agents come to call.. This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Nov 8 2014, 09:42 AM |
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Nov 8 2014, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 09:28 AM) Dun hav to feel shy of ur salary. 4k is not too low. Fresh graduate startin pay now only 3k. Urs still better. But if u aim for 700k+ prop, ur loan application sure rejected unless ur prediction bubble burst after gst next year came true. Thn a lot of dead chicken waitin for u to choose. keep trolling and putting your won expected figures ahead.. that is the only thing you can contribute in LYN isn't..I m oso ready to grab few units in flora whn prop crash next year. Sure can get positive rental yield. |
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Nov 8 2014, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:31 AM) majority household income in KV I think is less than 8,000 (I guest 60%). as for ppl who can afford properties with 600k, 700k & 800k above tags, these ppl must have already gotten a good properties to stay or better location in their hands.. most of them.. if there are no low entry, minimal exposure in cost, their next thing is investing... with GH concept and BTS concept, that is even ppl whjo can afford to invest will go away.. so obvious, do you see ppl lining up? for the projects? no rebates and low entry is the key answer..60% too much?? this kind of group cannot spend more than 5000 on house/car/insurance... take example of Midfields 2 lauching, I am sure papers all hit out how many days, how long que, finish , that price was around 550k above... new launch , few days finish... but why? Midfields 1 was subsaling at those price too and completed... still it cant be finished within months and years after vp.. so where are the demands to own stay? most are demands to invest... * those who think Midfields1 workmanship had contributed to bad subsales, try other example, I am sure there re phase 1 vs 2, you can take One south as well..or any so easy to observe what is happening |
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Nov 8 2014, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:33 AM) hitting 5 figures joint is simple... many can, for IT 7k kind of ting... like this.. if the salary of what you mention are true, we should not be seeing major mass units waiting for sale out there, the bad developers sales not only GH.. only investors will bother defending and spend time negating bad effect on projects, home owners don't bother whatever you said they need to stay coz is their plan.. investors different, upon vp yellow banners agents come to callthose complain expensive are justifiable, the property price today you have forgotten, to factor in the speculated 200k above at least profit margin.. if you say it is not expensive, will you buy back for additional 200k subsales product even it is from Semenyih SP project? since you said it how good concept, how good planning? everything has a price, not speculated price find it hard to answer? I answer for you... NOO these simple minded ppl saying joint hits 5 digits defiantly can buy.. this is how investors thinks.. can borrow loans can buy already.. buyers with 10k is barely enough upon purchasing 600k above properties.. no cars? no children? if stay semenyih, double tolls, double petrol, double jam, that is the pain... investors they are not staying there.. only investors will bother defending and spend time negating bad effect on projects, home owners don't bother whatever you said they need to stay coz is their plan.. investors different, upon vp yellow banners agents come to call.. I like this, got point |
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Nov 8 2014, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:16 AM) it a major slow down, not normal.. coz normally before GST, before year end ppl buy a lot due to coming new year which will increase price and GST... in other country b4 GST buying spree.. here looking and seeing spree only... like completely loss.. Bearbear, work harder la. B4 or after gst, u still cant afford to buy 700+k prop with ur current salary. U hope too much on bubble crash after gst to own ur 1st home. Not goin to happen 100%. U goin to b disappointed again like ur other prediction which goes wrong many times. U hope for klse crash recently. U hope for BLR increase just 2 days ago. U hope for gomen implememt BTS. U hope for US subprime in Malaysia. Bearbear keep hoping for all the bad news to crash the market. But many times he got it wrong.the 70% loan restriction are for 3rd property above, 70% DSR are for 1st buyers and etc.. I say many investors out there, that explains why new launches finish within days while subsales takes year.. also cant finish, now even more important, to have see developers sales cant finish despite vp like Altitude 236, OUG parklane, strands of MK projects , SP setia, EM they going to see unsold new units even after vp especially those priced 600k above..' subsales dreams in these areas will have problem |
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Nov 8 2014, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 09:47 AM) Bearbear, work harder la. B4 or after gst, u still cant afford to buy 700+k prop with ur current salary. U hope too much on bubble crash after gst to own ur 1st home. Not goin to happen 100%. U goin to b disappointed again like ur other prediction which goes wrong many times. U hope for klse crash recently. U hope for BLR increase just 2 days ago. U hope for gomen implememt BTS. U hope for US subprime in Malaysia. Bearbear keep hoping for all the bad news to crash the market. But many times he got it wrong. "BUBBLE CRASH" -This only God and Soros will kno....... |
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Nov 8 2014, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 09:33 AM) hitting 5 figures joint is simple... many can, for IT 7k kind of ting... like this.. if the salary of what you mention are true, we should not be seeing major mass units waiting for sale out there, the bad developers sales not only GH.. Hitting 5 figures joint is simple. For the 1st time I agree v bear bear. A fine example is bearbear himself. His salary although onli 4k, his gf is earning 6k+. Both joint salary already 5 figures. Now he can afford 700k+ prop by joint loan application. Thn I advise u not to wait until gst. U should buy now. Phase 1 mayb stil available.those complain expensive are justifiable, the property price today you have forgotten, to factor in the speculated 200k above at least profit margin.. if you say it is not expensive, will you buy back for additional 200k subsales product even it is from Semenyih SP project? since you said it how good concept, how good planning? everything has a price, not speculated price find it hard to answer? I answer for you... NOO these simple minded ppl saying joint hits 5 digits defiantly can buy.. this is how investors thinks.. can borrow loans can buy already.. buyers with 10k is barely enough upon purchasing 600k above properties.. no cars? no children? if stay semenyih, double tolls, double petrol, double jam, that is the pain... investors they are not staying there.. i think 13k nett joint income will be the best to absord 700k properties above and outksirt.. only investors will bother defending and spend time negating bad effect on projects, home owners don't bother whatever you said they need to stay coz is their plan.. investors different, upon vp yellow banners agents come to call.. |
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 09:53 AM) Hitting 5 figures joint is simple. For the 1st time I agree v bear bear. A fine example is bearbear himself. His salary although onli 4k, his gf is earning 6k+. Both joint salary already 5 figures. Now he can afford 700k+ prop by joint loan application. Thn I advise u not to wait until gst. U should buy now. Phase 1 mayb stil available. hahhahahah.......finally u agree with his statement |
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Nov 8 2014, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 09:53 AM) Hitting 5 figures joint is simple. For the 1st time I agree v bear bear. A fine example is bearbear himself. His salary although onli 4k, his gf is earning 6k+. Both joint salary already 5 figures. Now he can afford 700k+ prop by joint loan application. Thn I advise u not to wait until gst. U should buy now. Phase 1 mayb stil available. I \This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jun 28 2021, 02:03 PM |
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Nov 8 2014, 10:02 AM
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Nov 8 2014, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 10:01 AM) I assume that you are English literate, how do you find my points , to prove that you are trolling or not... do they look trolling like yours and your comrades? wat is ccris report?? havent i posted my ccris report before.. reflective of 4 k or not? want to see which month.. I time for you the spending 1k spending? 499? any amounts [attachmentid=4206329] |
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Nov 8 2014, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 10:02 AM) Bearbear no different fr other prop gurus. Most of the time tryin to bullshit but once in the blue moon still manage to hit 1 or 2 correct points. Kudos to bearbear dis time. not all his views is wrong actually, he too worry of market crash.......nothing wrong mah.... |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 10:01 AM) I assume that you are English literate, how do you find my points , to prove that you are trolling or not... do they look trolling like yours and your comrades? Y u show ur pama ccris? Or ur gf? Last time not d same one? havent i posted my ccris report before.. reflective of 4 k or not? want to see which month.. I time for you the spending 1k spending? 499? any amounts [attachmentid=4206329] |
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Nov 8 2014, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:03 AM) the ones the bank negara have full access and your self only by tumb print in bank negara to know all your credit status and repayment records before they approve the loans for you..all loans/commitments on car loans, housing loans, credit card and etc and their payment records whether you are punctual or not will be here.. before they decide to borrow you loans... |
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Nov 8 2014, 10:10 AM
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Bro bear ocbc card no gd. Cancel it. Use citibank.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 10:08 AM) the ones the bank negara have full access and your self only by tumb print in bank negara to know all your credit status and repayment records before they approve the loans for you.. all loans/commitments on car loans, housing loans, credit card and etc and their payment records whether you are punctual or not will be here.. before they decide to borrow you loans... too deep..... |
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 10:08 AM) that is what i say.. If you believe that I need to trouble my father mother go to bank negara and tumb print their report.. very good, that is the only way to get ccris report..I can do few times for you in months |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:10 AM) I think BBW should not attack those who buy oledi, no good in this way.....if ppl buy oledi just congra them la, give some positive to those buyer lah......only time will prove everything this one I have to admit, buyers who bought will be sad, but if the buyer is of a plan to stay as residential, should not pose big disappointment coz they bought developer sales, price will up ( but not like jokers upon vp flip 200k), but buyers who are investors (and investors who leveraging credit till max) they of course will be angry..the ones taikors/taijie (aka lot of cash ) feel lose face.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 10:11 AM) that is what i say.. If you believe that I need to trouble my father mother go to bank negara and tumb print their report.. very good, that is the only way to get ccris report.. As I said b4, some pipu earn lower thn u. Fresh grads onli got 3k. So, no need to feel shy v 4k salary.I can do few times for you in months |
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Bro bear last time u said tis project sibeh gd wo. Now y challenge others for buying it???
Hav shl settled the commission to u??? If they havnt done so u can take legal action ma. U the loyar wo sure can repo gao them clean clean wan. |
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Nov 8 2014, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 10:14 AM) this one I have to admit, buyers who bought will be sad, but if the buyer is of a plan to stay as residential, should not pose big disappointment coz they bought developer sales, price will up ( but not like jokers upon vp flip 200k), but buyers who are investors (and investors who leveraging credit till max) they of course will be angry.. easy to say BBW don't like Flipper...... the ones taikors/taijie (aka lot of cash ) feel lose face.. |
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 8 2014, 11:15 AM) Pls pardon him. He is lawyer by profession cum prop guru. Sometime I oso got into difficulty in understandin all the lawyer terms. Hi zuiko. How much is your 2014 monthly income?Last year I show everyone you are liying. See this year I can repeat doing it or not. |
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Nov 8 2014, 10:18 AM) Bro bear last time u said tis project sibeh gd wo. Now y challenge others for buying it??? mayb market slow kua....... Hav shl settled the commission to u??? If they havnt done so u can take legal action ma. U the loyar wo sure can repo gao them clean clean wan. |
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 8 2014, 10:10 AM) I think BBW should not attack those who buy oledi, no good in this way.....if ppl buy oledi just congra them la, give some positive to those buyer lah......only time will prove everything QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 10:14 AM) this one I have to admit, buyers who bought will be sad, but if the buyer is of a plan to stay as residential, should not pose big disappointment coz they bought developer sales, price will up ( but not like jokers upon vp flip 200k), but buyers who are investors (and investors who leveraging credit till max) they of course will be angry.. Bbw really think that by talk kok here can make the market crash.the ones taikors/taijie (aka lot of cash ) feel lose face.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 10:14 AM) this one I have to admit, buyers who bought will be sad, but if the buyer is of a plan to stay as residential, should not pose big disappointment coz they bought developer sales, price will up ( but not like jokers upon vp flip 200k), but buyers who are investors (and investors who leveraging credit till max) they of course will be angry.. Reali? But u talk like if u buyin for own stay, but u act like an investor. U buying for own stay or for investment? Lawyer term again, I got into difficulty. the ones taikors/taijie (aka lot of cash ) feel lose face.. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 8 2014, 11:14 AM) this one I have to admit, buyers who bought will be sad, but if the buyer is of a plan to stay as residential, should not pose big disappointment coz they bought developer sales, price will up ( but not like jokers upon vp flip 200k), but buyers who are investors (and investors who leveraging credit till max) they of course will be angry.. Bear bear just dont put too personal on the zoo kui n the malugibbs geng la.the ones taikors/taijie (aka lot of cash ) feel lose face.. I have know them for ages. Last time they said DDD like me only ride motorbike, live in flat, income too low. They asked you to buy house. But they never ask their leader malugibbs to buy. Until now still a virgin This post has been edited by tikaram: Nov 8 2014, 10:26 AM |
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