Pump the form into ur A-pillar...u can get from Ace hardware for RM40
sound will oso be diff..allow 2 days to fully cure

How i wish p99rs can play flac. Cd is too stone age

Pedanggila bro you can try to convert you flac to wav. Then try on your pioneer. It should take wav files.

Yup, cd is too troublesome. But still a lot of shop outside there don't know what is flac or wav. Files. Still cd is king in the car audio world.

This post has been edited by sonyman: Mar 16 2015, 06:55 AM

Ya thats the only option while really i fancy less wav format because of its wierd metadata. My library is not that much but quite a hasle to convert especially with cap ayam converter. If things go as plan I'll go for another upgrade in fourth quarter this year. I'll be damned if they upgraded to flac in 2016

You can try audison but play HD.

CD still sounds better than FLAC....

but I am guilty for using MP3 as well actually..

Agree with you. Cd is the best. But nowadays cd is hard to come by and audiophile cd are really well, expensive if it is new.

But give it a couple of years when technology catches up, cd be In big big trouble. Btw tai ko crazychild MP3 is a no no. Minimum also wav files. At least it's the closest to cd.

Mp3 sampled from directly from quality cd is ok la at least me it sounds good enough but yea if feed that so so source to high end equipment the artifact/badly engineered songs is still a bad sound.

I skip cd actually and now buying flac directly from online shop like hdtrack, prostudiomasters etc. That audison bitplay hd is cool but the price is almost like p99rs if not more. Then I had a look at its audison bit one (the only dsp that has 6channel output plus two more to sub) the coaxial input only reads 24bit/48khz while bitplay sends out 24/96khz. Lol. Yeah i know i wont be able to hear a fking difference in a car like stock myvi. Need to soundproof this 7 yer old buffalo for another rm10k. Mati kering.

a lot of dsp has 8ch outputs....

ZApco Z8, Alpine PXA H800, Helix DSP, MATCH, JBL MS-8, GLADEN DSP 6to8 V8. Duit saja belum cukup

I think epsilon is gonna come out with a 8ch dsp soon or already out as well...

thats budget version of everything...

playing usb is still usb. the internal decoder is not gonna give u 100% sound quality compare the 1 they used for cd....even u use flac/wav on usb, it's still a lot of loss.....that's the reason why u see a lot of highend usb player that sell more than thousands out there which also claim can restore the loss audio..which to me is BS..

spend thousands on that small thing, then buy online for certain flac/wav format music is more expensive than u buy a good cd player and ori cd....

btw, i had experienced with ipad + optical airplay converter and the sound is just a big NO eventhough it's going thru optical and using expensive decoder....

Sometimes it's just good to stick to the traditional way....which explained why there's a grow in people who play with vinyl

yes howie sifu, 100% agree, cd is the best in car audio, USB and SD and we call it compressed lossless audio will be the way into the future. probably play through wifi, reason being, new generation is getting lazy, convenience is what matters. sound give or take, i agree the quality in a cd where the jitter is less, the clock is more accurate because the memory after reading the cd content gets fed into the dac directly. USB is not, but the SD card on the 80prs does,

then again, while reaping you will bla bla, "get this loss less and so on. the cd is still true sound, " is never ending. i agree 100% again cd is the ultimate sound medium ever invented. but its dying.

vinyl on the other hand is resurrecting from the dead. and sounds freaking good, cause the players are getting better, thats if you get a kuzma, or clearaudio. any other cap ayam, denon and so on, its still rubbish sound. oh, also you need a very very good phono stage to go along.

today we still say cd is the best, 5 to 10 years later we say, compressed lossless audio is the way.

so how? CD is slowly loosing its sales. Soory ah si fu, i just wanna share whats going to happen.

got chance you look at audio show in marriot this year, how many companies will use their ipad to control their setup. Some will bring their freaking expensive vinyl players. setup that can buy half a house,

and that's the reason for the long posting to tell people to stay away from real good quality music and trade with convenience......

cd dying is not true for now..maybe 10 years later....true? it might not because not everyone will get a freaking expensive "lossless player". Or maybe after 10 years it will be as cheap as cd rom price?

a trend is a trend, quality players still choose cd over "lossless", unless his system cant let him differentiate the difference between cd and lossless...or maybe just a little...

The reason some quit is because loss interest in music in car and turn to other hobby...follow their age...

At the end, actually i dun see the drop in car audio player, it's just that they do not form in a group like old time....

if the current economy is good, actually we can expect more than 5 brand gonna make 8ch dsp locally...but too bad now is not the time..

i'm still keeping an eye!

Want to play quality CD music, just buy a high end equipment and play at home. Debate the quality different of CD vs lossless for ICE is just a joke. I will not invest such equipment in car ever. Car will never silent no matter how much soundproof you done (can you soundproof ur car down to 50dB range when driving?), those tiny (virtually is nil) quality different between CD and FLAC will just ruin once you start ur car and moving around, unless u play a song with ur car stationary and idle, or the road you drive is newly paved, not practical right? Just my 0.5 cents.

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Mar 20 2015, 11:41 AM

ah i'm sure you've yet to experience in high end ICE

no worries, we get that ALL The time

I used to spend a lot more for car audio, trying to get the best I can afford: US/Euro brand component speakers, HU, DSP, US brand power amps, multiple 12' subs also US brand stuff, Monster/Street Wire cables. But now I'm just not into it anymore. As long as I can still get loud powerful sound relatively clean to keep me company in the car especially during traffic jams, then it's enough already, not so much into getting the best SQ anymore. Furthermore now just listening to MP3 lossless stuff, so yeah SQ is not that important hence I'm not spending as much as well: HU combined with DSP, front component only use Kenwood, subs just use MBQ powered under seat ones made in China, cheap std cables, enough already now.

Bro. Agree with you totally. Car will never be like home. Regardless how you sound proof. Condition like positioning of speakers also. But flac. Wav. Or CD. It's just preference. Acceptable level it really depends on the listener. I prefer to keep my higher fi CD at home and bring the entire library out. Accept the current state and continue to improving it.

At home flac vs wav vs CD. Very little difference. Because all signal are fed into the same dac. With the same system. So it's not easy to spot which is which.
My 1.00 view. But sifu will no matter what CD is better than USB. Regardless. That's for the time being.