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Why Nowadays Less and Less People play ICE, Discuss
Why Nowadays Less and Less People play ICE, Discuss
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Mar 20 2015, 11:41 AM
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Want to play quality CD music, just buy a high end equipment and play at home. Debate the quality different of CD vs lossless for ICE is just a joke. I will not invest such equipment in car ever. Car will never silent no matter how much soundproof you done (can you soundproof ur car down to 50dB range when driving?), those tiny (virtually is nil) quality different between CD and FLAC will just ruin once you start ur car and moving around, unless u play a song with ur car stationary and idle, or the road you drive is newly paved, not practical right?
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Mar 20 2015, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 20 2015, 03:04 PM) I went inside the installer car to listen for the high end ICE 5 years ago, not very long, just 45 minutes inside his car.He is a famous SQ audio installer located in Taman Impian Emas, Johor. He also was a judges for alot of SQ competition and took part in alot of SQ competition. Front 3 way speakers, self modified A pillar speaker mount and door panel mount. That time only i know speaker mount can be modified like that. To be honest, i dun remember what brand was used for the speaker and amp, i just know the HU was highend Alpine HU, i dun know what model, but at the same league as Pioneer PR80S that time, tuned by Alpine sound processor. Although i'm not install any part in his shop, but he still patiently told me all the SQ theory and let me get into his car (2003 Honda City Vtec) for audition. I can feel the soundstage, vocal and instrument positioning is so perfect in that car. The drum is projected from the stage that beyond the windscreen, the sub blend so well to the midbass driver in front that u won't even notice the sub was installed at the back of the car. Vocal was at the middle and front of your head. Overall i felt i was in front of a big stage and the singer was right in front of me. I sat 30 minutes in front, and 15 minutes at behind. The soundstage at behind was loss, but the sound still perfectly blend and balance, u won't know the sub is at the back of the seat at all. All the sound was come from front. Honestly i never experience this kind of soundstage and positioning in home setup. I'm not sure whether i have experience the high end ICE as you said or not. Trust me after listened to it i swear i really poisoned by that, until today i never forget that feeling. If i have a car that can done so quietly when driving in Malaysia road until can differentiate the differences between CD and FLAC quality, why not install those high end stuff into the car? But i know practically is impossible, that's why i rather spend those money in home audio setup. |
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Mar 20 2015, 04:21 PM) Bro you must be very tired of audio after so many years. Looks like you just want to make some background noise. No more serious listening. Totally agree, good acceptable sound.But then again. Car Hifi is so much more economical compare to home Hifi. One of the reason I started myself with something that can be listened. But again due to kids. Once I'm at home. I can no longer listen to music In the room. I got to do a lot of father things. But when Im at work. I can still enjoy good acceptable sound in the car. |
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 20 2015, 04:53 PM) now that you are on the same page: That's why don spend on ICE, spend on car performance parts so that at least u can vroom vroom in Sepang track on weekend. - yes, you CAN have perfect (or at least NEAR PERFECT) quietness in a car. however, be prepared to be deaf to the outside environment, which may not always be a good thing (ambulance/bike/rempit passing through? cant hear? prepare to lose a side mirror or even a bad scratch) - money, let's just say it won't be cheap to do a FULL CAR sound proofing/deadening. - on the subject of money, let's just say compared to home, car is MUCH CHEAPER. personally, i've been into car/headphones, and have a fucking rich relative into home hifi. from expensive to cheap, easily home > car > headphones. i'm sure you also know how some home hifi speaker (single, not plural, one fucking speaker) can cost 50-100k or more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duntech or mcintosh home hifi (again, the car versions are much cheaper, although by no means cheap in my book at least) then, there's the FULL room renovation (yes, house renovation.) AND sound proofing and deadening that EASILY cost a few cars (b/c segment, say, 100-300k +++?) worth of price. see where this is going in terms of scaling? lol. |
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