And how would buying 2 ex-freighters throw off this equation somehow that they make it hard for us to buy LPDs? Plus you and I are probably savvy enough to know even if it says $100 mil on the price tag, the end price will be much higher than that. Also factor in the cost of helicopters, landing craft & the troops deployed onboard, plus other 'hidden costs' I'd wager to say the total cost will run way,way more than that. But that's besides the question.

What I'm saying is it so ridiculous for RMN to buy 1 or 2 good condition used ex-freighters at reasonable price (probably no more than $30 mil USD for 2), send to shipyard for modifications for 6 months, train sufficient crew until they can run a freighter and then within half a year you can get dedicated Navy-owned cargo ships to go on cross-SCS transport runs every month at your pleasure. I'm pretty sure that is a worthwhile target.

Heck, If RMN is also that dirt poor, another option RMN can take some ships on long-term lease from MISC, paint them grey and hire civilian crews as reservists to man the ships on supply runs. As long as we have dedicated logistics fleet running regular supply runs that don't rely 100% on civilian contractors.

"Amateurs talk about tactics,professionals study logistics"- General Robert S. Barrow (US Marine Corps)

Why need to repaint bunga mas to grey colour. Better leave it look like normal civilian vessel but fitted with club k containers on deck.

Taruk misil Klub-K kat Bunga Mas pun best gak...

18 to 19 military planes have met with accidents just in the last three years.. bloody cow 

lack spare part, bad maintenance, bad luck ??? hope indo and msia sukhoi will be fine til the end of its service 

maybe west have advance way to down soviets jets now

18 to 19 military planes have met with accidents just in the last three years.. bloody cow 

lack spare part, bad maintenance, bad luck ??? hope indo and msia sukhoi will be fine til the end of its service 

18 to 19 military planes have met with accidents just in the last three years.. bloody cow 

lack spare part, bad maintenance, bad luck ??? hope indo and msia sukhoi will be fine til the end of its service 

Anybody knows if the mica vl on our gowinds is a gone case?? Or could there be a chance of getting something else

Heck, If RMN is also that dirt poor, another option RMN can take some ships on long-term lease from MISC, paint them grey and hire civilian crews as reservists to man the ships on supply runs. As long as we have dedicated logistics fleet running regular supply runs that don't rely 100% on civilian contractors.

18 to 19 military planes have met with accidents just in the last three years.. bloody cow 

lack spare part, bad maintenance, bad luck ??? hope indo and msia sukhoi will be fine til the end of its service 

Salam and good day, ladies and gents

I am new here and might joining you guys if I have time.

But for now, I present to you the eye catcher at recent Kuala Lumpur International Tattoo 2014

Is very annoying can buy $500 mil on Each Gowind, but can't afford $500mil for 2 LPD. feel is our Gov policy model make RMN poor.
some reason i thinking, 
1) Bcos our country prefer "more famous brand asset", sure price is high.
2) Bcos Gov policy always like local make means TOT/IP so price easy cost extra 25~50% and extra time to complete construction
3) Some military fans say RMN more prefer Military-Spec ship. no safe to operate civilian-spec ship
4) a good brand military-spec LPD will cost around at lease $200~300+ mil for 8k~10k tons LPD
5) Gowind and 8x8 used up a lot budget.
6) some fans say we can't buy value Military asset from Singapore/Indonesia/China due to politic reason, or there product is questionable on reliability.

as i said, procurement will pay over few year so not make cost too high.

Huapang Shipyards launch Jiangkai II-class Type 054A FFG hull number 20



Huapang shipyards in Guangzhou have launched the 20th unit of the highly successful type 054A FFG back in July 2014 and are currently under fitting before undergoing sea trials at the end of 2014 or early 2015. It is hoped that this Type 054A will be ready for commissioning by 2016.The PLA Navy is said to be ending its serial production of the Type 054A at hull number 22, which is already under early stages of construction.

Reports say the PLA Navy is already designing an improved version of the Type 054A, called the Type 054B. The improved version, which will have improved detection & weapons systems and an electric propulsion engine, for slated for possible future production.

From the overall hull/superstructure design and weapon loadout, looks like a modern version of Oliver Hazard Perry class. Need to have plenty of these, good patrol/escort vessels.

Is very annoying can buy $500 mil on Each Gowind, but can't afford $500mil for 2 LPD. feel is our Gov policy model make RMN poor.
some reason i thinking, 
1) Bcos our country prefer "more famous brand asset", sure price is high.
2) Bcos Gov policy always like local make means TOT/IP so price easy cost extra 25~50% and extra time to complete construction
3) Some military fans say RMN more prefer Military-Spec ship. no safe to operate civilian-spec ship
4) a good brand military-spec LPD will cost around at lease $200~300+ mil for 8k~10k tons LPD
5) Gowind and 8x8 used up a lot budget.
6) some fans say we can't buy value Military asset from Singapore/Indonesia/China due to politic reason, or there product is questionable on reliability.

as i said, procurement will pay over few year so not make cost too high.

Well, the PLA Navy already has about 20 of them in service, with the current batch ending at hull no.22, so there are already a sizeable number of them in service. They started building these back in 2005, so at rate of 2 ships per year for 10 years is a good rate of production.

With the current batch's production winding down, the next step would probably be the PLA Navy having to decide whether to start production of the improved Type 054B or start production of a new design (said to be called type 057 FFG). Some people say these two are the same ship but most people say the Type 057 is a separate new design. Also there would be no reason for the PLA to re-designate an improved version of an existing design by assigning a new number (for example the improved Type 052C is designated Type 052D, because they are essentitally the same design descended from the original Type 052) 


Proposed design layout of the Type 057 FFG