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post Oct 13 2014, 02:34 PM

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Bunga Mas 5 to be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy?

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MV Bunga Mas 5 being escorted by the Kedah-class OPV/Corvette KD Perak (173)

Reports say as part of plans for the permanent deployment of the MV Bunga Mas 5 Auxiliary ship to the ESSCOM security zone, the ship will be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) as the KD Bunga Mas 5. Currently, the MV Bunga Mas 5 and MV Bunga Mas 6 is under auxillary service for the RMN, not on full commission, and are still crewed by civilian MISC sailors (although signed on as navy reservists and under RMN command). These ships mostly function as a floating base for the RMN's naval commandos for anti-piracy operations.

Her sister ship, the MV Bunga Mas 6 will remain in auxiliary service for the time being as a training ship and will continue to take part in the RMN's anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, code-named Ops Fajar.

The ESSCOM security zone will also be strengthened by the conversion of a former oil drilling rig into a mid-sea floating naval base for security operations in Eastern Sabah.

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post Oct 13 2014, 03:21 PM

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Royal Malaysian Navy targeting 2019 for Gowind Frigates

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The Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) is targeting an operational entry date of 2019 for the first-of-class Second Generation Patrol Vessel - Littoral Combat Ship (SGPV-LCS), according to its chief, Admiral Aziz Jaafar.

Adm Aziz told IHS Jane's on 3 October that the RMN's current planning schedule calls for sea trials of the first ship to be carried out in 2018 and operational entry in 2019. Construction of the first of the six-ship LCS class has started at the Boustead Heavy Industry Corporation (BHIC) shipyard facilities in Lumut, with a 2017-18 delivery date and the remaining five ships delivered at six-month intervals thereafter.

BHIC is building the 3,000-tonne SGPV-LCS in partnership with DCNS, whose Gowind corvette design is being used as the basis for the vessel.

Most key equipments for the new class have now been confirmed. These include the DCNS SETIS combat management system, the Thales Nederland SMART-S Mk 2 3-D multibeam radar, Rheinmetall's TMEO Mk 2 TMX/EO radar/electro-optical tracking and fire control system, and the Thales Captas-2 low-frequency variable depth sonar.

Weapon systems include a BAE Systems 57 mm Mk 3 medium-calibre dual-purpose gun (in a stealth cupola), two MSI-Defence Seahawk single 30 mm guns, and two J+S Marine triple torpedo tube launchers (although no announcement has been made as to what torpedoes will be used). No contracts have yet been placed for the point defence missile system and surface-to-surface guided weapon system; however, MBDA's VL MICA and MM40 Block 3 Exocet missiles are thought to be in prime position.

Adm Aziz also said the RMN would soon increase its capabilities in operations there with nine surplus US Navy Mark 5 Special Operations Boats along with the purchase of a number of locally built fast boats.

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Mark V Special Operations Craft


News Link: Malaysia targeting 2019 for service of Gowind-class Frigates

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post Oct 13 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 13 2014, 03:21 PM)
Royal Malaysian Navy targeting 2019 for Gowind Frigates

Adm Aziz also said the RMN would soon increase its capabilities in operations there with nine surplus US Navy Mark 5 Special Operations Boats along with the purchase of a number of locally built fast boats.
News Link: Malaysia targeting 2019 for service of Gowind-class Frigates
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Actually now got enhancement version call mark V.1 (aka MAKO, to fix crew injury issue in mark V) but still US navy Specially Ops version, there manufacture Hodgdon Defense Composites come out MAKO export version called "Coastal Patrol Boat" by adding crew accommodations and Galley for longer deployments, Spec/performance still same with MAKO, so can make lite food or kopi/teh tarik at sea ..... much more suitable for RMN as patrol boat.

http://www.hodgdondefensecomposites.com/pr...s-coastal.shtml
http://www.hodgdondefensecomposites.com/cpb_brochure.pdf

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post Oct 13 2014, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 13 2014, 05:36 PM)
Die la, china see vietnam and indon and japan and aussie buy submarine, now build asw so much, our scorpene also gg
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 13 2014, 05:54 PM)
Sry gg is gaming slang, can means like dunnid play already
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post Oct 13 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 13 2014, 02:34 PM)
Bunga Mas 5 to be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy?

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MV Bunga Mas 5 being escorted by the Kedah-class OPV/Corvette KD Perak (173)

Reports say as part of plans for the permanent deployment of the MV Bunga Mas 5 Auxiliary ship to the ESSCOM security zone, the ship will be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) as the KD Bunga Mas 5. Currently, the MV Bunga Mas 5 and MV Bunga Mas 6 is under auxillary service for the RMN, not on full commission, and are still crewed by civilian MISC sailors (although signed on as navy reservists and under RMN command). These ships mostly function as a floating base for the RMN's naval commandos for anti-piracy operations.

Her sister ship, the MV Bunga Mas 6 will remain in auxiliary service for the time being as a training ship and will continue to take part in the RMN's anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, code-named Ops Fajar.

The ESSCOM security zone will also be strengthened by the conversion of a former oil drilling rig into a mid-sea floating naval base for security operations in Eastern Sabah.
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Err, no on Bunga Mas 6 on Aden, RMN mission was formally ended some months ago and BM6 was sent to Aust to serve as command ship during MH370 ops there, ship is now back, will remain in use by MISC. All here at http://www.janes.com/article/44120/malaysi...ral-combat-ship
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post Oct 13 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 13 2014, 11:19 PM)
How do you guys feel about our sgpvs having only one line of defence against missiles (using their mica)?? Personally i feel that its really not sufficient and i think we should invest a few more million to significantly improve the chance of survivability of them.

most value for money option would probably be adding 4 more sylver cells and quad packing crotale vt1 missiles, gives the ships another line of defence and maybe throw in a millenium ciws, although i think the crotales would be much more worth and judging from dcns photos there seems more than enough space to add in more than 4 extra cells.

most ships nowadays have at least 2 layers of defence other than the main gun, even indons sigma have millenium
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sgpvs just lite frigate, missile place already fix in design before ship built.
if got ESSM than very good liao,
also sgpv using Smart-S 3D radar only support Mica and ESSM,
other think is VT1 quite old already , event MICA also too shot range, better using latest CAMM missile with 25KM+ range, can quad-pack fit in both sylver/MK41, event sgpv only install 8 vls, x 4 =32 missle. is enough for defense propose.
but anyway,our RMN/gov not have future mind set, so ok with 8x mica.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 13 2014, 05:17 PM)
Actually now got enhancement version call mark V.1 (aka MAKO, to fix crew injury issue in mark V) but still US navy Specially Ops version, there manufacture Hodgdon Defense Composites come out MAKO export version called "Coastal Patrol Boat" by adding crew accommodations and Galley for longer deployments, Spec/performance still same with MAKO, so can make lite food or kopi/teh tarik at sea ..... much more suitable for RMN as patrol boat.

http://www.hodgdondefensecomposites.com/pr...s-coastal.shtml
http://www.hodgdondefensecomposites.com/cpb_brochure.pdf
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The Mark V are hot transfer from the US, which is free. We only need to pay for the refurbishment cost. Question is this refurbishment is done locally (as propose by RMN) or in the States?
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post Oct 14 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(edliew07 @ Oct 13 2014, 11:40 PM)
The Mark V are hot transfer from the US, which is free. We only need to pay for the refurbishment cost. Question is this refurbishment is done locally (as propose by RMN) or in the States?
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If free than good, also means we need buy something US military asset liao..... more and more F18 will get contract.
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post Oct 14 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 13 2014, 05:54 PM)
Sry gg is gaming slang, can means like dunnid play already
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till not understand ... can more simple ,or write proper word.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 13 2014, 02:34 PM)
Bunga Mas 5 to be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy?

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MV Bunga Mas 5 being escorted by the Kedah-class OPV/Corvette KD Perak (173)

Reports say as part of plans for the permanent deployment of the MV Bunga Mas 5 Auxiliary ship to the ESSCOM security zone, the ship will be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) as the KD Bunga Mas 5. Currently, the MV Bunga Mas 5 and MV Bunga Mas 6 is under auxillary service for the RMN, not on full commission, and are still crewed by civilian MISC sailors (although signed on as navy reservists and under RMN command). These ships mostly function as a floating base for the RMN's naval commandos for anti-piracy operations.

Her sister ship, the MV Bunga Mas 6 will remain in auxiliary service for the time being as a training ship and will continue to take part in the RMN's anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, code-named Ops Fajar.

The ESSCOM security zone will also be strengthened by the conversion of a former oil drilling rig into a mid-sea floating naval base for security operations in Eastern Sabah.
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This ship probably the closest we can get to USS San Antonio class tongue.gif
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This ship got guns ah??

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Why need to repaint bunga mas to grey colour. Better leave it look like normal civilian vessel but fitted with club k containers on deck.
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post Oct 14 2014, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 13 2014, 11:42 PM)
bro i think u referring to ngpv biggrin.gif and our kedah class gonna upgrade?? Ada sos??
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see wrongly, already correct it.
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post Oct 14 2014, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Oct 14 2014, 12:09 AM)
This ship probably the closest we can get to USS San Antonio class  tongue.gif
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This ship got guns ah??
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USS San Antonio class is LPD loh......
MV Bunga Mas 5 is Auxiliary ship, 2 totally different class of ship.

If got $$$, can get DCNS Brave or Damen JSS.....
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 14 2014, 12:04 AM)
till not understand ... can more simple ,or write proper word.
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mostly when playing online game like dota/lol

GG = good game but a lot player like used it as "surrender, pls finish us fast" "opponent to strong sure lose" etc which mean give up the game
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 13 2014, 02:34 PM)
Bunga Mas 5 to be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy?

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MV Bunga Mas 5 being escorted by the Kedah-class OPV/Corvette KD Perak (173)

Reports say as part of plans for the permanent deployment of the MV Bunga Mas 5 Auxiliary ship to the ESSCOM security zone, the ship will be formally commissioned into the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) as the KD Bunga Mas 5. Currently, the MV Bunga Mas 5 and MV Bunga Mas 6 is under auxillary service for the RMN, not on full commission, and are still crewed by civilian MISC sailors (although signed on as navy reservists and under RMN command). These ships mostly function as a floating base for the RMN's naval commandos for anti-piracy operations.

Her sister ship, the MV Bunga Mas 6 will remain in auxiliary service for the time being as a training ship and will continue to take part in the RMN's anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, code-named Ops Fajar.

The ESSCOM security zone will also be strengthened by the conversion of a former oil drilling rig into a mid-sea floating naval base for security operations in Eastern Sabah.
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The deck looks big enough.....why not extend the helipad so it will fit a couple of helicopters?
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Oct 14 2014, 05:02 AM)
The deck looks big enough.....why not extend the helipad so it will fit a couple of helicopters?
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And voila, so that's how Malaysia got its very own LHD rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Oct 14 2014, 05:02 AM)
The deck looks big enough.....why not extend the helipad so it will fit a couple of helicopters?
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Right now, I'd prefer it better if RMN buy 1-2 ex MISC freighters and turn them into logistics & transport sealift ships. It would be much more logical & easy to turn civilian freighters into military freighters, don't need any mil-spec requirements but probably need to add a Ro-Ro system for easier vehicle embarkation/disembarkation. Now RMN's logistics fleet very reduced after KD Sri Inderapura burned down & for logistics and supplies can only rely on KD Sri Mahawangsa & KD Sri Inderasakti.

Malaysia is split between peninsular & east Malaysia by sea, better if RMN have more supply & logistics ships to keep SLOC running smoothly so it's easier & faster to move stuff so the military can be more flexible in deploying and transporting troops & assets, especially now as the government have decided to significantly reinforce Eastern Sabah & SCS coast, so can expect increased military movements between peninsular & east Malaysia.



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post Oct 14 2014, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 14 2014, 06:22 AM)
Right now, I'd prefer it better if RMN buy 1-2 ex MISC freighters and turn them into logistics & transport sealift ships. It would be much more logical & easy to turn civilian freighters into military freighters, don't need any mil-spec requirements but probably need to add a Ro-Ro system for easier vehicle embarkation/disembarkation. Now RMN's logistics fleet very reduced after KD Sri Inderapura burned down & for logistics and supplies can only rely on KD Sri Mahawangsa & KD Sri Inderasakti. 

Malaysia is split between peninsular & east Malaysia by sea, better if RMN have more supply & logistics ships to keep SLOC running smoothly so it's easier & faster to move stuff so the military can be more flexible in deploying and transporting troops & assets, especially now as the government have decided to significantly reinforce Eastern Sabah & SCS coast, so can expect increased military movements between peninsular & east Malaysia.
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Ex-MISC just workaround solution, it work at sabah esscom, because just as mother ship to monitor surface using radar and refuel for small ship, it consider limited functionality.
if can accept no-military Spec hull, why not buy USD 90 million makassar Class LPD or more cheaper Indo make new LST to solved logistic/transport issue, anyway makassar Class LPD still military ship and design and full military operation. some more buy ex-misc also take some money and modification/new hardware, more or less same cost. it design not for Military logistic like MBT etc and also weapon/missile delivery.

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post Oct 14 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 14 2014, 10:36 AM)
Ex-MISC just workaround solution, it work at sabah esscom, because just as mother ship to monitor surface using radar and refuel for small ship, it consider limited functionality.
if can accept no-military Spec hull, why not buy USD 90 million makassar Class LPD or more cheaper Indo make new LST to solved logistic/transport issue, anyway makassar Class LPD still military ship and design and full military operation.   some more buy ex-misc also take some money and modification/new hardware, more or less same cost. it design not for Military logistic  like MBT etc and also weapon/missile delivery.
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I'm talking about converting ships for normal logistics shipping, not wartime operations sealift. Buying LPD or LST to just to ferry tanks for deployments seems rather extravagant. In peacetime we usually use civilian charter,but I feel better if RMN have 1-2 dedicated sealift ships for ferrying logistics & troops across SCS on its own, just in case for some reason we can't use charter ships.

Either case, converting an existing merchant ship is relatively easier than building a ship from the ground up and cheaper than buying a new purpose-built transport ship. Even US navy use Military Sealift Command (MSC) to buy/lease and convert freighter ships to move around military logistics & supplies. It's so much that its reported that the US Navy uses the MSC for up to 95% of military sealift in peacetime.

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MV Cape Victory, a former freighter converted to logistics ship

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