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waja2000
post Sep 2 2014, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(red streak @ Sep 2 2014, 08:51 PM)
Fuh so cheap  drool.gif
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just ship body only, many weapon and system order separately.
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post Sep 2 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 2 2014, 09:07 PM)
I thot is entire program cost??
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many country like order military hardware divided to multiple contract, so it look cheap and less issue on politic.....(people will forgot bcos long project), other website said project end up usd 250 mil for each baynunah class ship.
some also negotiation separately take long time for certain weapon。
in US event more separately contract, example engine also other order.

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post Sep 2 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 2 2014, 11:51 PM)
Angsa sudah mau berenang..... bersama2 keris keramat hang tuah.
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tak faham ..... smile.gif
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post Sep 3 2014, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 3 2014, 12:06 AM)
Its around the corner......ANGkasa SAmudera.....
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lagi tak faham ..... wink.gif
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post Sep 3 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Sep 3 2014, 08:40 AM)
Heads up for LTZ, more china towed sonar ships
[Janes]
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some more 054A got ASROC missile on vls ....
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post Sep 3 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 3 2014, 08:49 AM)
VDS...... nightmare to sub. But in warm water like our waters, its not too efective, but better than hull mounted sonar
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South China Sea quite big also warm water ?

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post Sep 3 2014, 01:34 PM

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RABU, 3 SEPTEMBER 2014 @ 10:03 AM
BH Bongkar: Armada Tua

Putrajaya: Agensi Penguatkuasaan Maritim Malaysia (APMM) ibarat kedai besi buruk, kebanyakan aset dimilikinya dikatakan sudah berusia dan tidak mampu mengejar penjenayah di laut.

Malah, daripada 245 bot dan kapal dimilikinya, lebih 80 peratus dikatakan sudah melepasi had usia 15 tahun dengan 15 daripadanya sudah mencecah usia hampir 50 tahun. Kerajaan juga terpaksa berbelanja besar setiap tahun untuk membaik pulihnya.

Timbalan Pengarah APMM (Operasi), Laksamana Maritim Datuk Ahmad Fuzi Ab Kahar, berkata kos pembaikan sebuah kapal dan bot boleh mencecah di antara RM3 juta hingga RM15 juta, bergantung kepada saiz dan kapasiti enjinnya.

Lebih menyukarkan keadaan, katanya, ada aset yang alat gantinya sudah tidak dikeluarkan lagi atau sukar diperoleh.
News LINK

Apmm ship in news also give by Custom Australia。
bukan saja APMM,Polis, ATM juga banyak aset yang lama.

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post Sep 3 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 3 2014, 08:38 PM)
But if we have base there we can hit mainland china with sukhois, currently we cant hit it no matter where our planes takeoff, maybe that chance of getting hit will change things a bit??
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don't think to much, we got ability to attack china.... few year more they event can send Aircraft Carrier to here.
event using sukhois also can't flight to china and come back distance more than 4000km 2 way range from layang-layang.
we zero capability to defense china missile attack all our city. some more air-force/navy base. our navy ship event small than there Coast Guard ship.
If can become asean top military power .... than should be very good already.

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post Sep 4 2014, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 4 2014, 01:02 PM)
Mistral for malaysia biggrin.gif haha impossible
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installment for 10 years, than possible. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(edliew07 @ Sep 4 2014, 11:48 AM)
just postponed only, france can't afford to lose 1.2 billion euro。
but now need to wait Russia reaction, i think will be strong.
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post Sep 4 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Sep 4 2014, 02:09 PM)
Soldiers fire at intruding pump boat off Sabah, arrest a man

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can't shot all there boats ?
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post Sep 4 2014, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 4 2014, 03:21 PM)
Guys i alr add all the mmea asset onto wikipedia help edit the description column pls all the grammar wrong one biggrin.gif
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wiki link please
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post Sep 5 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(mi-g @ Sep 5 2014, 11:51 AM)
Anyone knows what variant of M4 is this? Use by PASKAU if I'm not mistaken.

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it look like AR15 assault rifle ...

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post Sep 5 2014, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 5 2014, 03:07 PM)
i just realised dokdo quite cheap 200m plus why we no get
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that price is 10 year a go, price now at lease 350 mil each.

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post Sep 5 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 5 2014, 04:43 PM)
still cheap compared to most other lhd or even lpd becos korean

btw what happen to kedah upgrade?? anybody know if it really upgrade what will be installed??
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i more like China Type 071 LPD,more suitable for RMN. LPH more operation cost and helicopter cost.

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post Sep 5 2014, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 5 2014, 05:00 PM)
Iirc the price tag of usd300mil are without it sensor and defense system and so on.
it basically price tag for the hull alone.
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Seoul is investing about $560 million in the procurement of the eight helicopters(AW159). Each of them will be equipped with a Flash dipping sonar, provided by Thales, and anti-submarine torpedoes. The helicopter will be equipped for anti-submarine warfare, surface attack, maritime surveillance and search and rescue missions. Apart from the sonar, torpedoes and missiles it will also carry a maritime surveillance radar and electro-optical payload, which will also support the weapon system. Deliveries will take place in 2015 and 2016.
just found on internet
Cost usd 70 million for each AW159 with thales Flash Dipping sonar .. so expensive the system, (if Nh90, maybe around 90+ million)
it look like seahawk have better chance.

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post Sep 5 2014, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 5 2014, 05:35 PM)
I not sure wther the navy would prefer the flat top version like the mistral or dokdo or more ship like design with submersible well deck. During the MALUX AMPHEX 2014, i am sure the navy get to see the diff of those when USS Makin Island and other support ships arrived  smile.gif

Personally, i would prefer the flat top version because it would be more capable on the long run and it more function for the future marine plan. Able to deploy more attack or asw helicopters and amphibious vehicles

BTW LTZ

What is the actual MPSS requirements, alot of mix information on the requirements hmm.gif

1) some say 2 unit, while some say 3 unit (Bernama report 3 unit, Link)

2) some say ~8000ton while others say RMN might consider a full-size (14000 ton) version based on cost and future requirements link

3) Some say the requirements changed ever since the marine plan take full swing ( Attack helo, asw heli, lcac and aav have to be included in the deal) - logic juga buy amphibious ship but not equipments inside   tongue.gif

All the "some say", what is your comment?
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size not much impact of cost of ship, different cost just around 8~15%, population, system and sensor, design and integration of system, weapon take most 60~7x% of price, remaining equipment and accessories。

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post Sep 5 2014, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 5 2014, 05:55 PM)
Ok lar tu.
seahawk flyaway cost how much?

nh90 too many problem I would stay away from its.
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surprising internet search Mh-60R seahawk aka "Romeo" cost more expensive. specially integrated with Aegis ship cost 120+- million each, Denmark 71 million each look like without integrated datalink bcos no aegis ship.



"Australia received in January the first two of 24 Romeos it has agreed to purchase. The deal is valued at just under $3.2 billion. At least 11 will be delivered to the Royal Australian Navy in 2014, Jurgens said. Denmark has paid $686 million for nine MH-60Rs, which will begin production in 2014. Still, neither of those programs is scheduled to take Romeo production beyond 2018. Deliveries to Australia are slated to conclude even earlier in 2016.

The MH-60R is being pitched as interoperable with the Navy’s Aegis automatic threat detection system. Countries that purchase Romeos also benefit from Navy logistical support, training, product improvements and technical services. Those enticements did not stop South Korea from buying a rival helicopter to fulfill its requirement for a maritime operations helicopter.

After initially requesting the $1 billion sale of eight MH-60Rs, engines and maintenance equipment, South Korea instead awarded a contract to AgustaWestland, marking the first export of its AW159.

To further complicate matters Eurocopter — now Airbus — is offering the NFH-90, a multipurpose maritime helicopter with an integrated anti-submarine warfare capability, which further undercuts Sikorsky’s monopoly on the anti-submarine warfare market, Aboulafia said.

At least a dozen nations have purchased the multipurpose AW159 through 2013, but collapsing European defense budgets have undermined those marketing efforts, he said. "

full news : International Sales May Not Support Seahawk Production Past 2018
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post Sep 6 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 6 2014, 12:41 PM)
anyone got good photos of handalan/jerung/sri tiga class fast attack craft?? rmn wiki page only left these no photos cos i cannot find good one
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google search photo can see alot
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post Sep 6 2014, 07:01 PM

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China export version MBT-3000 tank.....new demo video。
They invite more than 30 country army to watch in Tank day, ready for export from 2015

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