soft99 offers pretty decent budget clays.

and i happen to be able to read some japanese

       i like the Meg's recyclable bag that they gave.  i believe those gallon & 4L products can last me a long long time and therefore its cheaper for me in the long run, especially the Osren's one.  just pop opened D155 yesterday, i can't say i appreciate the smell at all lols.

and look at my self-printed product label.. hehe..

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      i like the Meg's recyclable bag that they gave.  i believe those gallon & 4L products can last me a long long time and therefore its cheaper for me in the long run, especially the Osren's one.  just pop opened D155 yesterday, i can't say i appreciate the smell at all lols.

and look at my self-printed product label.. hehe..

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if it beads like that at 90km/h AFTER 2 yrs of application, i think it is pretty awesome man?  in between the 2 years, no reapply anything? how's the maintenance required??  i mean, i only have my experience on DuraZ.  first week apply, first rain, it start to beads at about 70 km/h like that. after a few wiper usage, a few weeks, a few more rains, it start to beads at 80, then 90, and slowly diminish after roughly about 2-3 weeks/rain lols.

No abrasive in dishwashing detergent so you should be ok
hehehe....shouldn't cause any problem la. Used to use dishwashing detergent for quite some times and so far my polishing pads are still sound.

A little suggestion for cleaning those difficult-to-clean sealants/AIO/glaze from pads, etc. - Dawn Power Dissolver. You can use it straight but I've been using it at 1:1 dilution and it still work (especially in this case cuz DPD is a little on the expensive side). Spray liberally onto the face of pad, leave it for NO MORE than 1/2 hour to let it work and soak into the pad, squeeze and agitate with your finger. Blast the pad with a pressure washer, if you don't have one use your garden hose at fan setting or strong jet, or just squeeze and rinse under the kitchen tap. So far DPD had never failed me. Just take note NEVER leave it to soak overnight or for more than an hour cuz it would deteriorate the foam/sponge. Oh...another thing...DPD would require much more rinsing as compared to dish washing liquid so...well...just take note of it la.

This pad (Megs Finishing pad) was loaded with residue of Megs M21 (also some dirt) and M21 (a little purplish in colour) is notorious in staining pads and difficult to clean. I've already used the pad for some times before decided to 'experiment' with DPD. And believe me when I said it's even more difficult to clean M21 off the pads as compared to DG501.

until today i havent seen any clay from Soft99 yet! 

That is a huge difference right there. I normally use Lux soap bar to wash my pad Not sure will damage it or not in the long run.

For tough stain, I use Meg's APC 10:1 or OPC 3:1, works most of the time. Just afraid those strong cleaner will deteriorate the velcro glue in the pad.

Thank You master jedi.. Eh silap.. Master krismas, actually wanted to buy DPD but not available at ace hardware.. Since I need to use my pad badly, i wash it using dishwashing soap..

for polishes and compounds normal dishwashing detergent more than good enough already. And nowadays, more and more 'water-based' compounds/polishes are around and plain water can clean them already....

i actually only used water for my pads... i don't reckon M101/UP being water based?

Yes, they are. Try using Menz (85rd) or Optimum (FP) or Megs (older M80/M82) finishing polishes then you'd see the differences. The 'oil based' polishes are generally grey-ish in colour....

I tell you man...I've tried *almost* everything in my arsenal for cleaning the M21/DG501 (including DP Pad Rejuvenator - sample sachet from one of my AG purchases)...nothing can clean the pads as good as DPD. And (knock wood) so far I haven't had any of my pads velcro coming of yet. But then, I only use DPD for Sealant/AIO/glaze only la....for polishes and compounds normal dishwashing detergent more than good enough already. And nowadays, more and more 'water-based' compounds/polishes are around and plain water can clean them already....
Eh? That's weird...ACE never failed me yet if I was looking for DPD....

what about sonax perfect finish that i've been wanting to get forever?

Yup. Easy to clean too....just remember to wash it straight away after use and don't wait until the next day or your next 'free time'...  

Yup. Easy to clean too....just remember to wash it straight away after use and don't wait until the next day or your next 'free time'...  

roxx...ooppss...forgot (or rather didn't have the time to tell you that day) about application method. For me, I prefer to wipe on with a foam pad...leave it for a little while (like 15mins or so) then apply again adding only a teeny weeny bit of product on the foam pad and keep on wiping until the surface clears up. I found that the WOWA (Wipe On Walk Away) method didn't work as good. Maybe you can try it next time ya....

until today i havent seen any clay from Soft99 yet! 
How much u got it fo for the gallons?Still scared to buy those gallons!   

RM 146 for the D155.  Osren's one is even even cheaper! RM 38 for 4L~!  imagine the Meg's APC & SD cost around RM 130 ish.

Not trying to undermine or overhype any products here, but if you want to effectively compare the costs, you should consider the cost of product used PER SESSION/application.

For example, lets jut take the two products that you mentioned above,
Osren Multi Clean is RM40 for 4L = RM10/L
megs APC is RM140 for 1gal
OMC strongest recommended dilution is neat/straight up (pls correct me if i'm wrong)
APC max reco dilution is 1:4 so for RM140 you'd get 5 gals = RM7.40/L

See...the above is just an example. If my assumptions are correct and also assuming the two products performance is the same at strongest dilution, then APC looks to be cheaper.

Just an example ya...

Not trying to undermine or overhype any products here, but if you want to effectively compare the costs, you should consider the cost of product used PER SESSION/application.

For example, lets jut take the two products that you mentioned above,
Osren Multi Clean is RM40 for 4L = RM10/L
megs APC is RM140 for 1gal
OMC strongest recommended dilution is neat/straight up (pls correct me if i'm wrong)
APC max reco dilution is 1:4 so for RM140 you'd get 5 gals = RM7.40/L

See...the above is just an example. If my assumptions are correct and also assuming the two products performance is the same at strongest dilution, then APC looks to be cheaper.

Just an example ya...

oppsss, you're right there. i didn't think that deep ma master. yup osren multi clean / fabric cleaner is RTU type no dilution recommended.  but the Degreaser FX does require 1:4 dilution for normal use, 1:1 for strong use la.  well i think we need to take into consideration of the effectiveness of the products which is even more difficult to quantify and compare, can only based on experience lols.

need to make a new excel file for calculating all these lols.  thanks sifu for the insight & reminder  
btw, latest price (last week) Meg D101 APC should be RM 121 if i remember correctly.