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 Car Care and Detailing [V4], Caring for your car apprearance

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linkin182
post Jan 13 2016, 07:36 AM

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Hi Guys,

Are there any specific polish that you guys can recommend for black car?

I am using Soft99 and Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax but I still find swirl marks sad.gif (though I'm not sure if its micro scratch marks from the foam pad).

I used a Foam to apply the Polish then buffed it with a micro fibre cloth.

My steps:-
1) Wash & Clay & wash
2) Polish (foam pad), set, buff (micro fibre cloth)
3) Ultimate quik wax, buff (micro fibre cloth)

Still I find swirl marks.
Would a buffing machine give better results?

Thanks!

This post has been edited by linkin182: Jan 13 2016, 07:37 AM
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post Jan 13 2016, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Jan 13 2016, 07:36 AM)
Hi Guys,
Are there any specific polish that you guys can recommend for black car?

I am using Soft99 and Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax but I still find swirl marks sad.gif (though I'm not sure if its micro scratch marks from the foam pad).

I used a Foam to apply the Polish then buffed it with a micro fibre cloth.
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I don't think having a black car would make any difference in the choice of exterior care products or polishing/waxing technique except for the fact that swirls appear more easily to the eye for a black car.
Not cleaning/claying the car sufficiently before polishing could cause swirls.
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post Jan 13 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Jan 13 2016, 07:36 AM)
Hi Guys,

Are there any specific polish that you guys can recommend for black car?

I am using Soft99 and Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax but I still find swirl marks sad.gif (though I'm not sure if its micro scratch marks from the foam pad).

I used a Foam to apply the Polish then buffed it with a micro fibre cloth.

My steps:-
1) Wash & Clay & wash
2) Polish (foam pad), set, buff (micro fibre cloth)
3) Ultimate quik wax, buff (micro fibre cloth)

Still I find swirl marks.
Would a buffing machine give better results?

Thanks!
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I guess you have same situation with me. Soft99 silver tin effectively to hide most of swirlmarks but will all swirl mark will come back again after 1~2 days. Recently I was tried up Turtle wax Renew polishing compound by hand on a test spot, but the results was disappointed. Seem like totally no diff before and after after polishing with foam pad. Maybe I am using wrong technique or what....will try again on coming weekend if I free. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Jan 13 2016, 04:43 PM

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Sifus, im new to car detailing or more like just want my car sparkling clean..

Given that I own a silver paint car.. quite old, have water marks and little bit of swirls..

I just want to make it clean and shiny and looks less dull/old.. doesnt matter or not water spots can be completely removed, just wanna make it less obvious and clean looking + shine !

So which product should I use? Wash & wax, clay? normal shampoo? Any recommendations?

Oh btw, Im poor. so any cheap products that can do the job?

thanks sifus.
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post Jan 13 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jan 13 2016, 04:43 PM)
Sifus, im new to car detailing or more like just want my car sparkling clean..

Given that I own a silver paint car.. quite old, have water marks and little bit of swirls..

I just want to make it clean and shiny and looks less dull/old.. doesnt matter or not water spots can be completely removed, just wanna make it less obvious and clean looking + shine !

So which product should I use? Wash & wax, clay? normal shampoo? Any recommendations?

Oh btw, Im poor. so any cheap products that can do the job?

thanks sifus.
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1 bar of Soft99 clay bar (RM20), 1 bottle of car wash shampoo (RM10), Soft99 Meta Clean (RM39), a couple of applicator pad (RM10) and a also couple of microfibre cloth (RM15) (quoting prices from Lazada)....can't think of anything cheaper that I would dare to recommend.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2016, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 13 2016, 05:18 PM)
1 bar of Soft99 clay bar (RM20), 1 bottle of car wash shampoo (RM10), Soft99 Meta Clean (RM39), a couple of applicator pad (RM10) and a also couple of microfibre cloth (RM15) (quoting prices from Lazada)....can't think of anything cheaper that I would dare to recommend.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Hmm...

Maybe a budget around RM200?

What can I get from it? Just want my car to be clean and glossy blush.gif
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post Jan 13 2016, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 13 2016, 05:18 PM)
1 bar of Soft99 clay bar (RM20).........
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Where did you get the claybar for 20?
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post Jan 13 2016, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(eprince @ Jan 13 2016, 04:35 PM)
I guess you have same situation with me. Soft99 silver tin effectively to hide most of swirlmarks but will all swirl mark will come back again after 1~2 days. Recently I was tried up Turtle wax Renew polishing compound by hand on a test spot, but the results was disappointed. Seem like totally no diff before and after after polishing with foam pad. Maybe I am using wrong technique or what....will try again on coming weekend if I free.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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My friend mentioned that it could be alot of factors in producing a swirl free marks.

I have no problems running Soft99 on my car which is white (no swirl marks). The black car however is my wifes.

My friend suggests to use a different approach to black cars and he recommends the Meguiars Swirl X and the Ultimate Polish.

Not a Meg's fan but apparently thats the product that works on black cars.

For Soft99, I believe it works best on bright colored cars but for darker cars we might have to use a different polish.

I might consider the Meguiars Black Wax if the Ultimate Polish doesnt work on my next pass.

Will update more if I happen to have the chance to do so.

But I am willing to accept any further inputs such as Foam Pads, Microfibre cloths or techniques even to achieve the black glossy finish.
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post Jan 13 2016, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jan 13 2016, 06:56 PM)
Hmm...
Maybe a budget around RM200?

What can I get from it? Just want my car to be clean and glossy  blush.gif
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The higher price for some products can be deceptive. RM100 for a big can of FK1000p, Collinite 476/885 will seem to last forever since very little is needed and will be better value than say Turtlewax hardshell wax(which is also cheap and ok) if you calculate cost/application. PG polymer sealant looks ok for a cheap sealant.

To wash and clean - Permaglass/Formalhero car wash detergent and PG/soft99 claybar. Some people just use (clean) soapy water for claybar lube instead of detailing spray. Get a few microfiber cloths and a mitt.
To polish - find some cheap pre-wax polish like Mothers pure polish instead of an all-in-one polish which will screw up your sealant lsp or spray on.

Spray on sealants are very useful and worth the extra cost since they are so quick and easy to apply. I use polishes and traditionally applied sealants like FK1000p/Collinite only several times a year now and spray on products the rest of the time. Spray ons are products like Sonax Brilliant shine detailer, Duragloss #105, Optiseal, Carpro Reload, Formalhero silicon sealant.


Someone who tried out the Formalhero spray on-
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car...t-car-care.html

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post Jan 13 2016, 09:11 PM

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Places/websites to get products other than supermarkets, Acehardware:

Optimum - http://www.detailien.com/p/protect_05.html
Duragloss - http://estore.duragloss.com.my
also at Pasaraya Megaherbs at Jalan SS24/28, Taman Megah, Petaling Jaya 47301
Menzerna pangkylution lowyat member
Various waregem lowyat member


Jalan TS6/4 Subang Light Industrial Estate https://www.facebook.com/SonaxMalaysia/ Sonax
http://splash-autocare.com/ Chemical Guys
www.klasse.com.my Klasse Auto Detailing (USJ1) klassejoel@gmail.com Klasse
www.meguiars.com.my - Meguiars
www.autopolishine.com - Mothers
www.classicautokleen.com.my - AutoGlym
www.osren.com.my - Osren
http://www.dodojuicekl.com/
http://lvcarcareservices.blogspot.com/2013...nd-pads_24.html
Chemical Guys http://splash-autocare.com/
Zaino http://www.zainoap.com/zaino-products


Some of the websites don't seem to be working at this time.

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hey all the sifus here, would really love to seek advice from some of you here. blush.gif

im actually having issue on my white car actually, its a saga flx, yeah its a cheapo car but to me its my car hence i care about it haha. laugh.gif

i mantain polishing and waxing every now and then all done by myself and even tried once detailing outside but it just seems that there will be tough dirt sticking on the clear coat or the wax i dont really know whats that called but i would really like to know what are the products that could prevent dirt from sticking on to my paint so that i dont really need to polish every 1month or so. AFAIK the normal suggested period for polishing and waxing should b around 3mths once if im not wrong hmm

anyhow, i washes my car every week whether rain or shine, using meguiars ultimate detailer and ultimate quik wax after drying up the car. but still, there will be black dirt stain after 1 week or 2 after polishing and waxing, what to do? doh.gif

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post Jan 14 2016, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Jan 13 2016, 09:16 PM)
hey all the sifus here, would really love to seek advice from some of you here.  blush.gif

im actually having issue on my white car actually, its a saga flx, yeah its a cheapo car but to me its my car hence i care about it haha.  laugh.gif

i mantain polishing and waxing every now and then all done by myself and even tried once detailing outside but it just seems that there will be tough dirt sticking on the clear coat or the wax i dont really know whats that called but i would really like to know what are the products that could prevent dirt from sticking on to my paint so that i dont really need to polish every 1month or so. AFAIK the normal suggested period for polishing and waxing should b around 3mths once if im not wrong hmm

anyhow, i washes my car every week whether rain or shine, using meguiars ultimate detailer and ultimate quik wax after drying up the car. but still, there will be black dirt stain after 1 week or 2 after polishing and waxing, what to do?  doh.gif
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Hi dude this same as last time happen to my friend is easy soft 99 to settle it and don't use again the wax change to use yours quick wax will be good or use sealant from Optimum trust me you will notice the stain won't come out again
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(derail @ Jan 13 2016, 07:53 PM)
Where did you get the claybar for 20?
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I just qoted the price searched/shown in Lazada...just to indicate estimated pricing/expenditure...
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Jan 13 2016, 09:16 PM)
hey all the sifus here, would really love to seek advice from some of you here.  blush.gif

im actually having issue on my white car actually, its a saga flx, yeah its a cheapo car but to me its my car hence i care about it haha.  laugh.gif

i mantain polishing and waxing every now and then all done by myself and even tried once detailing outside but it just seems that there will be tough dirt sticking on the clear coat or the wax i dont really know whats that called but i would really like to know what are the products that could prevent dirt from sticking on to my paint so that i dont really need to polish every 1month or so. AFAIK the normal suggested period for polishing and waxing should b around 3mths once if im not wrong hmm

anyhow, i washes my car every week whether rain or shine, using meguiars ultimate detailer and ultimate quik wax after drying up the car. but still, there will be black dirt stain after 1 week or 2 after polishing and waxing, what to do?  doh.gif
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1. What polisher and shampoo are you using ?
2. Have you perform claying to do a cleaner surface preparation prior to polish or waxing ?
3. Do you have photo of the 'dirt' you refer to ? Is it a watermark or dirt film or tar ?

there is possibility that it could due to low quality factory paint too.
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post Jan 14 2016, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Jan 13 2016, 08:57 PM)
My friend mentioned that it could be alot of factors in producing a swirl free marks.

I have no problems running Soft99 on my car which is white (no swirl marks). The black car however is my wifes.

My friend suggests to use a different approach to black cars and he recommends the Meguiars Swirl X and the Ultimate Polish.

Not a Meg's fan but apparently thats the product that works on black cars.

For Soft99, I believe it works best on bright colored cars but for darker cars we might have to use a different polish.

I might consider the Meguiars Black Wax if the Ultimate Polish doesnt work on my next pass.

Will update more if I happen to have the chance to do so.

But I am willing to accept any further inputs such as Foam Pads, Microfibre cloths or techniques even to achieve the black glossy finish.
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ur fren able to remove swirl, scratches or watermark with meg polish by hand? mind to share more how to do?
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hi guys, need some opinions on this. I am purchasing rubber wipers for my car, question is do these rubber wipers have a shelf life set from manufacture date. Like car tyres?
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QUOTE(techme @ Jan 14 2016, 09:55 PM)
hi guys, need some opinions on this. I am purchasing rubber wipers for my car, question is do these rubber wipers have a shelf life set from manufacture date. Like car tyres?
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No.
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post Jan 15 2016, 10:33 AM

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post Jan 15 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(eprince @ Jan 14 2016, 05:36 PM)
ur fren able to remove swirl, scratches or watermark with meg polish by hand? mind to share more how to do?
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That was the suggestion though I dont think that he applied it himself.

An easier way recommended is to go for PPS Coating and maintain throughout with Waxing or Detailing biggrin.gif.

I havent had a time to give this a try yet but will definitely provide updates.

As it stands, here's a result of the swirl marks.
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