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eddie2020
post Jan 1 2016, 05:39 PM

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Can we apply those wax on bumper? Our bumper made of plastic rite? Or only strictly on metall
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post Jan 1 2016, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Jan 1 2016, 06:39 PM)
Can we apply those wax on bumper? Our bumper made of plastic rite? Or only strictly on metall
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if bumper is painted like the rest of the body can apply wax and compound/ polish like normal biggrin.gif
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post Jan 2 2016, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(chew3344 @ Jan 1 2016, 07:15 PM)
if bumper is painted like the rest of the body can apply wax and compound/ polish like normal  biggrin.gif
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It's painted like other body.. I heard some say don't use on plastic like grill? So it's OK to use on plastic as well? I did get turtle hardshell wax liquid type and car wash.. Car wash I don't really see any difference.. The wax not bad.. But seems like don't have anything to buff.. I apply on line motion.. How can I know if I apply the wax successful and works like it should? I dint apply my bumper, only my door, hood, roof and bonnet lol
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post Jan 2 2016, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Jan 2 2016, 02:05 AM)
It's painted like other body.. I heard some say don't use on plastic like grill? So it's OK to use on plastic as well? I did get turtle hardshell wax liquid type and car wash.. Car wash I don't really see any difference.. The wax not bad.. But seems like don't have anything to buff.. I apply on line motion.. How can I know if I apply the wax successful and works like it should? I dint apply my bumper, only my door, hood, roof and bonnet lol
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Waxes are applied on painted surface smile.gif plastic trims/ rubber/ grill uses different products biggrin.gif
General procedure is wash-> clay -> paint correction (optional ) -> LSP (wax)
Usually for me i apply wax in circular motion to ensure better coverage and prevent over apply laugh.gif
After you apply your wax you will see it became a hazy layer, you can do the swipe test ( use your finger swipe the hazy layer if it shows clear paint without any streaking or smearing means you can buff it off already), then wipe off using a clean MF towel flex.gif
I am still learning as well laugh.gif

here's more details if you are interested biggrin.gif
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showt...-The-Swipe-Test
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post Jan 2 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(chew3344 @ Jan 2 2016, 01:19 AM)
Waxes are applied on painted surface  smile.gif plastic trims/ rubber/ grill uses different products  biggrin.gif 
General procedure is wash-> clay -> paint correction (optional ) -> LSP (wax)
Usually for me i apply wax in circular motion to ensure better coverage and prevent over apply  laugh.gif
After you apply your wax you will see it became a hazy layer, you can do the swipe test ( use your finger swipe the hazy layer if it shows clear paint without any streaking or smearing means you can buff it off already), then wipe off using a clean MF towel  flex.gif
I am still learning as well  laugh.gif

here's more details if you are interested  biggrin.gif
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showt...-The-Swipe-Test
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Painted area? Grill also consider painted rite? Platinum paint? Bumper is painted area as well.. Abit confuse..
Where to get clay bar? Seems can't find it.. Is it possible to use claybar with car wash shampoo?
If over apply what different for wax? I did try to wait over half n hr, I don't see any hazy surface.. Only those over apply I wipe off.. I did see a YouTube video for my liquid wax, the person say no buff off needed.. Weird..
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post Jan 2 2016, 10:40 AM

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Happy new year everyone!

Just got myself (for my SO actually) a new car.

Is it enough if i just wax it without polishing? Will it remove the original protective layer?
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post Jan 2 2016, 12:21 PM

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Hi sifus, do you all use cloth or sponge to wash your cars? What type of cloth? And can you recommend me a cloth to wipe dry my car. Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(kokokranc @ Jan 2 2016, 10:40 AM)
Happy new year everyone!

Just got myself (for my SO actually) a new car.

Is it enough if i just wax it without polishing? Will it remove the original protective layer?
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yes if your paint is new. polishing is just for those who have scratches or bad cosmetic appearance

QUOTE(KeithYen @ Jan 2 2016, 12:21 PM)
Hi sifus, do you all use cloth or sponge to wash your cars? What type of cloth? And can you recommend me a  cloth to wipe dry my car. Thanks smile.gif
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micro fibre cloth wash and wipe with same type of cloth
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post Jan 4 2016, 11:50 AM

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Hi,

anyone know where can i buy micro-restore detergent in Malaysia?
i found it in Amazon, but can't purchase as message show restricted ship to Malaysia. Any idea?

http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Restore-Microf...s=micro+restore
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post Jan 4 2016, 12:17 PM

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Hi guys,

Thanks for all the suggestions. rclxms.gif

Last thursday I've bought a bottle of Turtle Wax Zip Wax Car Wash, Turtle Wax Express Shine spray wax & a bottle of RainX with a couple of Daiso Microfiber cloths and a cheap washmitt from Eneos (Bo lui, what to do cry.gif ).

I found out that the Zip Wax wash liquid feels watery & foamless. Im not sure whether it was meant to be like that or I mixed it with a wrong ratio. BTW this is how I did my first wash of my new Vi.

1. Wash & Rinse with ONLY water and a new microfiber cloth due to the thickness of the dirt on my car
2. Wash with Turtle Wax Zip Wax Car Wash liquid, rinse thoroughly and dried with a new microfiber towel.
3. Wax with Turtle Wax Express Shine. Im not sure Im doing it right rclxub.gif . According to the instructions behind the bottle, all I got to it is spray and wipe off (?). Thats what I did and the car did get a little shinier, but I dont see any effect with water after I apply it to my car icon_question.gif
4. Cleaned all windows, F & R windscreen, & side mirrors with non-alcohol wet tissue, wipe dry and applied 2 coats of RainX with kitchen towel. 1st coat dint have any effect after a 15 minute 'bake'. 2nd coat I left it there for half and hour before wiping it off.
5. Left the tyres dry and applied tyre wax from Tupps. (Just happen to have a half bottle in my store room LOL)

Overall it was a good experience but SUPER tiring. All and all plus interior wiping and vacuum took me almost 5 hours.

AND THEN.. I found scratches on my car... cry.gif cry.gif especially on my rear wing (Myvi 1.5 SE btw). The left part of the wing is like totally scratched and full with swirl marks! Im not sure how'd it happen though sad.gif. Anyway to remove it? Should I try the Turtle Wax Scratch & Swirl remover? ANNNNDDDDD there is a freaking scratch mark on my windscreen. I checked the wiper and it looks fine. Could it be the paper towels? The scratch looks like a perfect arc though, the only cause that I can think of is my wipers? Sigh.. Any way to DIY remove scratches from windscreen?

Thanks again guys smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(zenjiazenjia @ Jan 4 2016, 11:50 AM)
Hi,

anyone know where can i buy micro-restore detergent in Malaysia?
i found it in Amazon, but can't purchase as message show restricted ship  to Malaysia. Any idea?

http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Restore-Microf...s=micro+restore
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by the time you gotten the detergent, average cost of your microfibre will become very pricy. Just use some gentle detergent will do..no need to be so specific...
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post Jan 4 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(bryan2jzgte @ Jan 4 2016, 12:17 PM)
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the suggestions.  rclxms.gif

Last thursday I've bought a bottle of Turtle Wax Zip Wax Car Wash, Turtle Wax Express Shine spray wax & a bottle of RainX with a couple of Daiso Microfiber cloths and a cheap washmitt from Eneos (Bo lui, what to do  cry.gif  ).

I found out that the Zip Wax wash liquid feels watery & foamless. Im not sure whether it was meant to be like that or I mixed it with a wrong ratio. BTW this is how I did my first wash of my new Vi.

1. Wash & Rinse with ONLY water and a new microfiber cloth due to the thickness of the dirt on my car
2. Wash with Turtle Wax Zip Wax Car Wash liquid, rinse thoroughly and dried with a new microfiber towel.
3. Wax with Turtle Wax Express Shine. Im not sure Im doing it right  rclxub.gif . According to the instructions behind the bottle, all I got to it is spray and wipe off (?). Thats what I did and the car did get a little shinier, but I dont see any effect with water after I apply it to my car  icon_question.gif
4. Cleaned all windows, F & R windscreen, & side mirrors with non-alcohol wet tissue, wipe dry and applied 2 coats of RainX with kitchen towel. 1st coat dint have any effect after a 15 minute 'bake'. 2nd coat I left it there for half and hour before wiping it off.
5. Left the tyres dry and applied tyre wax from Tupps. (Just happen to have a half bottle in my store room LOL)

Overall it was a good experience but SUPER tiring. All and all plus interior wiping and vacuum took me almost 5 hours.

AND THEN.. I found scratches on my car...  cry.gif  cry.gif especially on my rear wing (Myvi 1.5 SE btw). The left part of the wing is like totally scratched and full with swirl marks! Im not sure how'd it happen though sad.gif. Anyway to remove it? Should I try the Turtle Wax Scratch & Swirl remover? ANNNNDDDDD there is a freaking scratch mark on my windscreen. I checked the wiper and it looks fine. Could it be the paper towels? The scratch looks like a perfect arc though, the only cause that I can think of is my wipers? Sigh.. Any way to DIY remove scratches from windscreen?

Thanks again guys  smile.gif
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I guess your car is contaminated hence just by your washing and applying quick wax doesn't bring much result...perhaps you should wash, clay and quick wax. Paper tower will not scratch your windscreen since glass is very hard..

maybe you post some photo off your swirl and scratches can advice further
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post Jan 5 2016, 02:39 PM

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Want to ask, is the Meguiars G3200 Brilliant Solutions New Car Kit worth getting?

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post Jan 5 2016, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(KeithYen @ Jan 5 2016, 02:39 PM)
Want to ask, is the Meguiars G3200 Brilliant Solutions New Car Kit worth getting?
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If its matches your budget its worth getting. It has all the necessary product and tool
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post Jan 5 2016, 05:53 PM

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What tool do I need to wash my rims? And any shampoo to recommend for the rims? Thanks smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2016, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Dec 31 2015, 08:31 PM)
I just got a used alza which is white in colour, but it seems its very hard to keep the car clean..

Seems its so easily to get dirty and there are still dark stains and marks all over the car after washing it, and the only way to remove those stains is to use the polishing compound..

Is there anything wrong with my method?

1. Wash car with shampoo, after wash still got dark stain and marks
2. Polish away the stains and marks with car polish
3. Car will became dirty again in few days, especially if it rains..  doh.gif
I am thinking is there any particular brand of car care products that can clean those dark stains and marks without having to polish it off after wash everytime?

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Stains can be removed with a polish product. To make the cleaning job easier next time, you need to seal your paintwork. This is done using a quality wax product or a synthetic sealant. Use wax if you're prepared to spend money and time on your car. If you can't be bloody bothered to pamper your car every other week, just use a synthetic sealant because they tend to stay on longer.

Permaglass makes a product called Polymer Sealant that does this job on the cheap - around RM25 a bottle.


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QUOTE(bryan2jzgte @ Jan 4 2016, 12:17 PM)


I found out that the Zip Wax wash liquid feels watery & foamless. Im not sure whether it was meant to be like that or I mixed it with a wrong ratio. BTW this is how I did my first wash of my new Vi.

1. Wash & Rinse with ONLY water and a new microfiber cloth due to the thickness of the dirt on my car
2. Wash with Turtle Wax Zip Wax Car Wash liquid, rinse thoroughly and dried with a new microfiber towel.
3. Wax with Turtle Wax Express Shine. Im not sure Im doing it right  rclxub.gif . According to the instructions behind the bottle, all I got to it is spray and wipe off (?). Thats what I did and the car did get a little shinier, but I dont see any effect with water after I apply it to my car  icon_question.gif

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Wash and wax from what i try, they don't foam up really well

but they really have some wax making water sheeting like sealant




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Hi guys, got my waxes for my Tafetta White ride. Meguiars White Wax G6107, Collinite 476s and Soft99 Fusso Coat 12 Month White.
My plan is;

1. Wash - using dish soap Glo or Sunlight to remove predeliver wax from the dealership. Advise me which is best media to use to strip wax. Already have Optimitt and Sheepskin Mitt and MF clothes(last choice as plan on using it as buff media).
2. Clay - got the 3M and PermaGlass Clay bar. Advise me which claybar is the best for white paint. Will use ONR clay lube dilution as clay lube.
3. Dry - blot using Synthetic Chamois and Cobra Supreme Guzzler.
Skip Compound as new car, only marring and light swirls detected.
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4. Polish - This making me confuse. Can I use the Meguiars White Wax G6107 as a polish material to remove the light swirls and marring? This is AIO with light abbrassive properties. Planning to HAND Polish with the Hex-logic pad or using applicator pad already enough? I already have Meguiars Even Coatâ„¢ Microfiber Applicator Pads and Meguiars Foam Applicator Pads. If using the Hex-logic pad is better, which one should I use? According to the descriptions is;
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About the Orange Medium-Heavy Pad
The Orange Hex-Logic Medium-Heavy Cutting Pad is a firm, high density foam pad that is ideal for scratch and defect removal. This pad offers the correction of a typical compounding pad while at the same time allowing the polishing ability of a light cut foam pad. When used with heavier compounds, it will remove moderate swirls and scratches with little or no haze. It is an all around pad that will work on most light to moderate imperfections.

About the Black Finishing Pad
The Black Hex-Logic Finishing Pad is a super fine finishing pad that has no cut so it can apply thin, even coats of waxes, sealants and glazes. The super fine composition of the finishing pad is firm enough to withstand added pressure during final finishing to deliver a perfect result every time.

About the Blue Light Polishing/Finishing Pad
The Blue Light Polishing/Finishing Pad delivers a super fine finish for use with ultra fine polishes, glazes and light surface cleaners.


After polish with the Meguiars White Wax G6107, should I use IPA to prepare the surface for the Paste Wax application? Or just rewash with dish soap will do?

5. Wax - Also need advise from you guys. Since my car is white, thinking of using Soft99 Fusso Coat 12 Month White for the 1st layer, as thinking it might help to bring up my white color. After that layer it with the Collinite 476s. But the Hydrophobic properties of the Soft99 Fusso Coat making me thinking that will the Collinite 476s bond to the Soft99 Fusso Coat? Or it does not matter which is the first layer? Another option is Collinite 476s for 2 layer, then after 24hours coat it with the Soft99 Fusso Coat. Looking for durability and beading power as I live in low cost apartment and will open park most of the time. Hopefully the beading effect will make it easier for me to do maintenance wash of 2weeks using ONR and planning to top it of with Sonax BSD as bro Quazacolt review it as a good topper.

Hope that sifu KrisMas and all otais give advise for noob me.
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QUOTE(busta_dude @ Jan 6 2016, 02:45 PM)
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Hi guys, got my waxes for my Tafetta White ride. Meguiars White Wax G6107, Collinite 476s and Soft99 Fusso Coat 12 Month White.
My plan is;

1. Wash  - using dish soap Glo or Sunlight to remove predeliver wax from the dealership. Advise me which is best media to use to strip wax. Already have Optimitt and Sheepskin Mitt and MF clothes(last choice as plan on using it as buff media).
2. Clay  - got the 3M and PermaGlass Clay bar. Advise me which claybar is the best for white paint. Will use ONR clay lube dilution as clay lube.
3. Dry  - blot using Synthetic Chamois and Cobra Supreme Guzzler.
Skip Compound as new car, only marring and light swirls detected.
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4. Polish - This making me confuse. Can I use the Meguiars White Wax G6107 as a polish material to remove the light swirls and marring? This is AIO with light abbrassive properties. Planning to HAND Polish with the Hex-logic pad or using applicator pad already enough? I already have Meguiars Even Coatâ„¢ Microfiber Applicator Pads and Meguiars Foam Applicator Pads. If using the Hex-logic pad is better, which one should I use? According to the descriptions is;
CODE

About the Orange Medium-Heavy Pad
The Orange Hex-Logic Medium-Heavy Cutting Pad is a firm, high density foam pad that is ideal for scratch and defect removal. This pad offers the correction of a typical compounding pad while at the same time allowing the polishing ability of a light cut foam pad. When used with heavier compounds, it will remove moderate swirls and scratches with little or no haze. It is an all around pad that will work on most light to moderate imperfections.

About the Black Finishing Pad
The Black Hex-Logic Finishing Pad is a super fine finishing pad that has no cut so it can apply thin, even coats of waxes, sealants and glazes. The super fine composition of the finishing pad is firm enough to withstand added pressure during final finishing to deliver a perfect result every time.

About the Blue Light Polishing/Finishing Pad
The Blue Light Polishing/Finishing Pad delivers a super fine finish for use with ultra fine polishes, glazes and light surface cleaners.


After polish with the Meguiars White Wax G6107, should I use IPA to prepare the surface for the Paste Wax application? Or just rewash with dish soap will do?

5. Wax  - Also need advise from you guys. Since my car is white, thinking of using Soft99 Fusso Coat 12 Month White for the 1st layer, as thinking it might help to bring up my white color. After that layer it with the Collinite 476s. But the Hydrophobic properties of the Soft99 Fusso Coat making me thinking that will the Collinite 476s bond to the Soft99 Fusso Coat? Or it does not matter which is the first layer? Another option is Collinite 476s for 2 layer, then after 24hours coat it with the Soft99 Fusso Coat. Looking for durability and beading power as I live in low cost apartment and will open park most of the time. Hopefully the beading effect will make it easier for me to do maintenance wash of 2weeks using ONR and planning to top it of with Sonax BSD as bro Quazacolt review it as a good topper.

Hope that sifu KrisMas and all otais give advise for noob me.
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Typically you only need blue pad pay if you wanna do correction. Alot still prefer apply wax with hand. See you have 'duplicated' protection product...if i were you i will

1. Wash > For long run, choose a decent quality shampoo
2. Clay > clay lub can be use with shampoo (more concentrated)
3. Surface preparation > Where polishing kick in...The White Wax seem design to removes light oxidation, contamination and Micro cleaners restore paint brightness ( to be not so much in polishing instead cleaning)
4. After Polish > Wash and dry again.
5. Apply Wax so protection. I would apply 476s as based coat. Use G6107 only if the surface got contaminated (dirt film and water mark), Fusso coat maybe use a weekly topper after car wash)

Was told Fusso coat tend to 'attract' watermark after rain and not easy to be remove - you may wanna research more about it.

Just my 2 cents.
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Sifu g88 thanks for the POV. I so particular in this because this is the first time I wanna coat my soon to be 3 month old white car. That's why I plan to strip off everything before I apply coating/protection as per my liking to my beloved ride.

1. Wash > For long run, choose a decent quality shampoo
For maintenance wash will use ONR only as live in low cost apartment. Once in 4 month will do proper wash at parents place using proper car wash shampoo. Planning to get Megs Gold Class, or TW F21 Car Wash or Sonax.
2. Clay > clay lub can be use with shampoo (more concentrated)
Might consider. But already have ONR, so might as well use it for proper result no?
3. Surface preparation > Where polishing kick in...The White Wax seem design to removes light oxidation, contamination and Micro cleaners restore paint brightness ( to be not so much in polishing instead cleaning)
So is it I need to get the infamous Meguiars Ultimate Polish for the light swirls removal? Or Meguiars SwirlX? Or any cheaper alternative?
4. After Polish > Wash and dry again.
5. Apply Wax so protection. I would apply 476s as based coat. Use G6107 only if the surface got contaminated (dirt film and water mark), Fusso coat maybe use a weekly topper after car wash)
At first plan to do this. So this is the best way? Plan to use G6107 as the cleaning agent only, not using it as LSP.


Was told Fusso coat tend to 'attract' watermark after rain and not easy to be remove - you may wanna research more about it.
Do you mean this Soft99 Fusso Coat 12 Month 'attract' watermark after rain? Need to research more on this as it water repellant properties are among the best, logically watermark hardly etched into it. But that is my thinking, no experience on this.


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