So, what does your religion teach you about the guy heart in girl body( lesbian), girl heart in man body( gay). Is their own fault? Parents fault? or God fault?
There is no absolute answer come to this kind of question.


There is not such thing even in last time.
Taking drama as ppl culture, religion is the funniest example i have even seen.

wao...this threat have a good response wo..haha

looks like u enjoy the flaming and carnage incurred here?

i wonder is she interested on the content or just want her forum to be popularize?

This post has been edited by kimmie: Sep 26 2006, 02:39 PM

BROTHER !!!! now, this is funny .....

making love with your love one/partner. WHY is it being blamed of increasing the 'number' of raping cases ??????

excuse me !!!!!!!!!




ok, this is a sex before marriage thread ...

to me, getting married, is a certificate of declaring to the world, "i am somebody's wife .... "

This post has been edited by CupidCupid: Sep 26 2006, 03:36 PM

you want to know???... in our religion... one cannot behave as if they are in the other side of their original sex... if you r born as male... you must act as a male... and if you r born as female... you must act as a female...

changing those nature such as man trying to be woman or vice versa is not allowed... this wrong heart in wrong body that u mentioned is actually a human desire to be the opposite sex... its something that they must overcome... they have been given mind and brain to think and they must use it to get god acceptance... failure to do so is considered as failure to follow god will... and the penalty is none than hell...

i'm not speaking based from my opinion... its what is thought in our religion...

i believe my post is a question to get confirmation... and not a statement of fact... i did asked whether its right or wrong at the end... would some of you guys care to read it back incase you didn't noticed... thank you

the touched i'm referring has deeper meaning... its mean that u already having sex with that girl

if what in the drama is wrong... then you guys should do something because that drama is giving ppl from other religion a wrong conception about your religion...

or maybe you just dont care... how pity...

This post has been edited by myxzspzlx: Sep 26 2006, 03:58 PM

errr actually in china in olden times, girls who were of good families and upbringing were expected to be chaste and pure. Hence, no physical contact with men except their husbands... touching a girls hand back in those days was a serious No-No! It could be considered as dishonoring the lady.

Of course we live in the modern day now. Heck we don't even need to use our imagination. Just switch on MTV and watch barely clothed ladies prancing around with suggestive moves.... Heck if you feed the younger generation with all this, I'm not surprised if pre-marital sex goes of the roof. You have a generation of young perverts already desensitized and programmed to spend cash on material "stuff" to gratify themselves and their vanity.

It was expected that this will happen to society anyways since I was studying the effects of media as a marketing tool to target the young as potential consumers (that was 9 years ago) Now, most middle aged marketeers now are proud to say we have screaming children/teenagers who will buy anything we feed the market as long as its cool or endorsed by a star.

Society has itself to blame. And the worse thing is, we marketeers are reaping a hefty profit while our young ones walk that inevitable road to hell.

Twisted eh.

ppl reject their culture not bcoz the culture is not relevant anymore... its more to the fact that the culture could not fulfill their desire... in this case... the culture cannot fulfill their sex desire...

There's a difference between rejecting culture and trying to emulate another. As one of the very few GenX'ers here. We used to reject everything and anything and establish our own rules...yeah the whole GenX thing now we're all middle aged now with kids of our own. (You can guess 70% of you guys are a decade younger then me )

What's amazing is that the new generation is trying to emulate what ever they see on TV. They talk like rappers, dress like what they see on TV, talk english with an American slang (even though they haven't a clue how to pronounce croissant or salmon properly), call themselves wierd sounding names you know G'Log (real name Gopal loganathan), sleep around because everyone's doing it...

What concerns me is that we are becoming a generation of sheep. We follow whatever we see on MTV and crave material stuff like its our God. You know we're in trouble when small kids scream at their parents for a new handphone....

We're fed a diet of sex sex and more sex. (Apparently the Pussycat Dolls aren't prostitutes but singers but I can't tell the difference ??) and like sheep we just take in everything MTV spews out and call it "our culture"

Frightening

still remember the commercials in tv... where this indian guy friends call him SAM... but his realname is muthusamy...

bah, read ur holy books again
and again....try not let religion slip in here

bah again,,,,,im also talking about having sex as in touch.....
which drama are u talking about? harry potter?

whoah...sex..touch...harry potter? You mean to say Hairy Potter: Misadventures of the naughty wizard ??

now most of the girls are not virgin in the age between 17... most of my frens are not... some of them said sex are fun... most of the guys cant find virgin... but if u really love her you wont mind... as long as thats the pass...

please, we are allowed to talk freely, exchange opinions and learning from each other (which is the gift of god ) .
but do not flame or insult any person or his/her religion.

we have no right on making or stopping anyone on saying anything, but atleast be polite & repect each other (didnt u treated your partner the same way when making love?).

i pity on those who have sex for pure fun.

Lets not come to the part "but if u really love her you wont mind" 1st......
What is the reason for pre-marital sex?
Becoz your friends do it? I bet u sees news saying alot of rob/murder/rape etc etc...So does that means u wanna follow too?

It is easy : someone who is backed up by religion, conservatism & old thinkings (wacky angel) doesn't have to explain his position, his ideas. They just make the one who does have pre-marital sex (or which is not against it) feel GUILTY. Guilt is the critical point of premarital sex.

You do it ? you should feel guilty.
You don't feel guilty about it ? you should feel guilty too.

Sex is fun, sex is enjoyable, sex is part of nature, and you do it as long as it doesn't kill you or ruin your life (by pregnancy, reputation, etc.). For instance, if you're a believer, having pre-mat sex will ruin your life (by guilt)..

yup... i agree with you...

as i said b4... everybody must have made mistakes b4... its a nature of human... regret it... and try your best not to do it again... if you are to weak to control your own desire for sex but you dont wan't to get married... then be it... and please contained it to yourself...

by going around and telling ppl that what you do is not wrong (maybe to get approval from others so that you dont feel guilty)... you are infecting other ppl with your morale disease... and that is wrong...

dude, moral disease is nothing. I'm afraid if its STD or AIDs then we really have a serious trend here.