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post May 3 2021, 01:41 PM

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What is the estimation of renovation this size?
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5139811
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post May 5 2021, 03:27 PM

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vernee26
post May 7 2021, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(vernee26 @ Apr 29 2021, 12:54 PM)
Sharing my input here.

TLDR
Conclusion : I would recommend my friends and family to reach out to him if they have reno work, purely based on my discussion with him as he seems practical, honest and NO UPFRONT DEPOSIT required for wet works
Quality of work : I have no idea, have never met him before nor seen his work

I've been reading this thread and looking for tiling contractors and decided to reach out to Mr Yap and see how's it like.
My current situation : I have engaged an ID to redo my landed home. Generally, pricing still acceptable (of course slightly higher than general contractors) but tiling price was crazy expensive.

I reached out to Mr Yap today to provide a quotation for tiling works  (hack existing tiles, cement screed + retile whole ground floor and toilets)

I whatsapped Mr Yap and gave him my measurements. He requested to have a call to understand better (quick response from him). He was quite chatty and wanted to provide lots of comments/input. During the call he understood my situation and provided very good practical advise :

1. Why pay deposit to wet work contractors??? (although he did say it was stupid of me to have done so, it was not harsh and I guess he was quite frustrated that consumers would do that).
His practise is that he never collects deposit but starts work first. His argument is if the company no cashflow to start work, you trust that company?
(caveat : not applicable for carpentry/built-ins as it's customized built)
Sound good in theory, but so hard to find any general contractors or even ID that doesn't require down payment

2. I shared with him my current quotation by my ID and he shared the market pricing/his indicative PSF pricing for tiling works.
He commented that my ID quote (with self purchased tiles) is expensive. If included tile price, then it's still acceptable. As there were demolishing works required (remove existing cabinets, hacking works for plumbing and electrical), he advised, better to nego with my current ID (since I've paid deposit) instead of looking for multiple subcons which will cause more communications/defect blaming headache later.

Based on the conversation I had with him, Mr Yap is practical and seems honest. Instead of wasting both our time and trying to win the job (him providing quote, site survey, me deciding whether to engage), he provided sound advise.
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Sharing my follow-up experience with Mr Yap

I decided to reach out to Mr Yap again, and this time not to request for a verbal quotation, but site survey for a more accurate quotation. To me, when a consumer decides to have site survey, they are quite serious and not “saja-saja” trying to waste either the contractor or their own time trying to arrange for it. My routine question to all contractors/suppliers is to upfront ask clearly if they charge any fees for site survey + quotation (I picked this up from a LY thread) to avoid any miscommunication or being “potong” by contractors when you don’t engage them.

To my surprise, Mr Yap who called me “stupid” ("why so stupid": does sounds like it's directed at me) for paying deposit to contractor/ID instead of 0% upfront and pay progressive (refer my earlier post), he wants to charge me for the site survey. If I engage him, then the site survey would be refunded.
(btw, the reno works not superly huge, estimated >RM60k)

I’m not upset nor pissed at Mr Yap, it’s a free market, he has the right to determine if it’s FOC site survey or not, and for consumers to decide if they want to pay for it. Just that based on the above paragraph, I was a bit surprised that it’s coming from him.
So far from my personal experience, main cons, termite companies, and other sub-cons I’ve gone through provides FOC site survey and I intend to keep it that way as my personal preference. Anyhow, I politely informed Mr Yap I do not intend to proceed with site visit with him.




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post May 7 2021, 09:59 PM

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Be careful with this contractor.
Company Name: WKW Construction Works (002092350-D) based in Cheras.
Contractor Name : Wong Kar Weng / Ah Weng
Tel: 016-6768661

Very irresponsible, gave empty promises and slow. Now MIA.
Turns up for work only 2 to 3 times a week in the past 1 to 2 months. Never picks up calls or reverts to messages.

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post May 8 2021, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(vernee26 @ May 7 2021, 05:33 PM)
Sharing my follow-up experience with Mr Yap

I decided to reach out to Mr Yap again, and this time not to request for a verbal quotation, but site survey for a more accurate quotation. To me, when a consumer decides to have site survey, they are quite serious and not “saja-saja” trying to waste either the contractor or their own time trying to arrange for it. My routine question to all contractors/suppliers is to upfront ask clearly if they charge any fees for site survey + quotation (I picked this up from a LY thread) to avoid any miscommunication or being “potong” by contractors when you don’t engage them.

To my surprise, Mr Yap who called me “stupid” ("why so stupid": does sounds like it's directed at me) for paying deposit to contractor/ID instead of 0% upfront and pay progressive (refer my earlier post), he wants to charge me for the site survey. If I engage him, then the site survey would be refunded.
(btw, the reno works not superly huge, estimated >RM60k)

I’m not upset nor pissed at Mr Yap, it’s a free market, he has the right to determine if it’s FOC site survey or not, and for consumers to decide if they want to pay for it. Just that based on the above paragraph, I was a bit surprised that it’s coming from him.
So far from my personal experience, main cons, termite companies, and other sub-cons I’ve gone through provides FOC site survey and I intend to keep it that way as my personal preference.  Anyhow, I politely informed Mr Yap I do not intend to proceed with site visit with him.
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Mr Yao did show me your message,and he didn’t talk to you on phone call, just a text message. U ask for any FOC if for site inspection or call survey. It’s a normal practice service in construction and renovation line. And he offer to refund if successful awarded. Why not have a try with him? Meaning that, you are fishing here and there.
And the text you write out is already specific all the scope and floor area, if you truss a contractor, you wouldn’t have to ask this question of FOC or whatever.
Through out this. He mention to me he never and ever call you “stupid”. This you have to apologize to him in this post.
You been seeing a lot of house owner get con by the contractor, last advise Mr Yao is not that kind of businessman. Thanks for your feedback.
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post May 8 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Robert.johor @ May 8 2021, 08:38 AM)
Mr Yao did show me your message,and he didn’t talk to you on phone call, just a text message. U ask for any FOC if for site inspection or call survey. It’s a normal practice service in construction and renovation line. And he offer to refund if successful awarded. Why not have a try with him? Meaning that, you are fishing here and there.
And the text you write out is already specific all the scope and floor area, if you truss a contractor, you wouldn’t have to ask this question of FOC or whatever.
Through out this. He mention to me he never and ever call you “stupid”. This you have to apologize to him in this post.
You been seeing a lot of house owner get con by the contractor, last advise Mr Yao is not that kind of businessman. Thanks for your feedback.
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Just to be clear, hope we're talking about the same Mr Yap, not Mr Yao.

In my earlier sharing, I have clearly mentioned I spoke to him and already stated that he said "stupid", but I guess when it's a good review, nobody will criticize, my post even got a like from you!

QUOTE(vernee26 @ Apr 29 2021, 12:54 PM)
1. Why pay deposit to wet work contractors??? (although he did say it was stupid of me to have done so, it was not harsh and I guess he was quite frustrated that consumers would do that).
His practise is that he never collects deposit but starts work first. His argument is if the company no cashflow to start work, you trust that company?
(caveat : not applicable for carpentry/built-ins as it's customized built)
Sound good in theory, but so hard to find any general contractors or even ID that doesn't require down payment

Well, I guess it's a case of "he say vs I say" and if it makes you or Mr Yap feel any better, I apologize and retract that statement as I do not have any proof of recording of him saying it.
Shall let forumers decide for themselves whose "I say vs you say" is probably true

1. Please see attached pic of proof that I spoke to Mr Yap for approximately 13min 55sec
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2. I highly doubt it's "normal practice", perhaps other forumers here can share their experience if it's "normal" to pay for 1st site survey + quotation.
Anyhow as I said, it's up to the contractors whether they want to charge for site survey, no right and no wrong. And up to consumers to choose whether they are comfortable with that. Also as mentioned, from MY personal experience and preference, I would never pay for site survey and haven't done so after meeting more than 5 main/sub con/ suppliers.

3. What do you mean by "fishing here and there"? Getting multiple quotes? Isn't that what all consumers should do? get a few quotes to compare? Or perhaps you meant something else?

4. Quote "if you truss a contractor, you wouldn’t have to ask this question of FOC or whatever."
"You been seeing a lot of house owner get con by the contractor, last advise Mr Yao is not that kind of businessman."
Thanks for highlighting that many owners get "conned" by contractor, but at the same time I'm suppose to place my trust in a contractor I've never met which is being promoted by you? Blindly accept whatever the contractor tells you and not question anything? Consumers cannot request for FOC site survey or bargain?

I'm purely sharing my experience here and I believe all good and bad experience should be shared in this forum for everyone's benefit. But seems like some people only like to see "good reviews" of their "connections/recommendations". dry.gif



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SUSRobert.johor
post May 8 2021, 10:12 PM

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Hi, mr Yap ask me to write this to the owner who mr yap say to him “stupid”, he would like to apologize to him.
Honestly he never requested up front or down payment to his all owner. For this I can strongly highlight this is TRUE.
For the owner who asking provided FOC for site visit, he told me that he has saying this words on text reply.
There are a surcharge for site visit, but if get awarded will be refunded back to the owner.
If my early post, make someone got heart feeling, I also apologize here to the owners. Maybe I’m too sided to mr yap and mr Yao.
Thanks for all the proved been showing. All contractor hope they can manage to do their good job to the owner been appointed, because owner really pay out CASH. Try not get the bad quality of works what have been agreed between the owner and be honestly to your own profession.
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post May 30 2021, 09:06 AM

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post Jun 1 2021, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(vernee26 @ May 7 2021, 05:33 PM)
Sharing my follow-up experience with Mr Yap

I decided to reach out to Mr Yap again, and this time not to request for a verbal quotation, but site survey for a more accurate quotation. To me, when a consumer decides to have site survey, they are quite serious and not “saja-saja” trying to waste either the contractor or their own time trying to arrange for it. My routine question to all contractors/suppliers is to upfront ask clearly if they charge any fees for site survey + quotation (I picked this up from a LY thread) to avoid any miscommunication or being “potong” by contractors when you don’t engage them.

To my surprise, Mr Yap who called me “stupid” ("why so stupid": does sounds like it's directed at me) for paying deposit to contractor/ID instead of 0% upfront and pay progressive (refer my earlier post), he wants to charge me for the site survey. If I engage him, then the site survey would be refunded.
(btw, the reno works not superly huge, estimated >RM60k)

I’m not upset nor pissed at Mr Yap, it’s a free market, he has the right to determine if it’s FOC site survey or not, and for consumers to decide if they want to pay for it. Just that based on the above paragraph, I was a bit surprised that it’s coming from him.
So far from my personal experience, main cons, termite companies, and other sub-cons I’ve gone through provides FOC site survey and I intend to keep it that way as my personal preference.  Anyhow, I politely informed Mr Yap I do not intend to proceed with site visit with him.
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I happened to speak to Mr Yap several times about my project too. I did not proceed with him because he was too busy at that time. I guess his words "why so stupid" was properly just his style of talking and he did not actually mean it.

One point he highlighted is a lesson I learnt - don't pay deposit to a contractor upfront if you have a choice.

Try to choose a contractor who is willing to accept 0% outfront and pay progressive. Higher price a bit and you may be able to manage the risks. Previously, I renovated my apartment and engaged a contractor that did this.

For my current project, I paid a hefty 25% deposit before the commencement. The progress was so slow until I was worried that the contractor may not complete the task. I also suspect the contractor was using my deposit to fund other projects. Last week, he presented another big amount progressive claim for some work planned to do. If I made such a payment, it would mean I am paying 46% contract value for a 30% completion. Many contractors like to claim that the material prices go up and they need to lock the prices. I no longer buy that idea and I rejected his progressive claims. Now, I am having my own spreadsheet to control and ensure that I don't pay more than 5% - 10% ahead of the values delivered.

A lot of scary contractors nowadays. In view of the full lock down and uncertainty, do be careful of the deposits paid.


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post Jun 7 2021, 12:33 AM

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Has anybody here actually signed a agreement with the contractor before actually engaging them?
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Sharing my experience in getting my new home cabinets done (Wardrobes, Kitchen cabinet, TV Cabinet and Shoe Cabinet), by Aaron as recommended in the forum here.

He is a friendly guy and quick to respond to messages. We also like his team, a good mix of all culture and experiences.

While he did send the cabinets in on time as promised, but he took slightly longer than initially promised to complete the installation (3 weeks instead of 2 weeks).

Overall very happy with their product and design. There were a few defects here and there, but Aaron is very quick to turn up and replace them without giving any excuses.

There a lot contractors out there don't turn up once the full payment settled. He is different. I would like to engage him again & again for any jobs in future.

Company Name: Two Boxes Sdn Bhd
FB page: https://www.facebook.com/TwoBoxesEnterprise
Ctc No.: Aaron / 0163236530
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QUOTE(Robert.johor @ Mar 20 2021, 09:12 AM)
Can you show some prove to show us, so we might be avoid from him, if you cannot proved that... that are meaning you are trying to talk Nonsense at this forum!
I’m fully support Mr Yap and he doing very well done job at the oval Resideces Klcc .
Please make sure that your words are correct and can show us the shit problem he been done.
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Yea should get some proof.

Anyway few years ago i also asked Yap for quotation.

The first questions he asked is are u serious or not?

I was like wtf, i called you of course im serious.

While discussion, sometimes im late in replying whatsapp (within few hours late) and his response is - is this how slow u reply? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

In the end i asked an indon contractor, satisfied on quality and price AND ATTITUDE and till this day i still asked the indon to renovate my house every now and then.
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QUOTE(ongss @ Jun 1 2021, 12:05 AM)
I happened to speak to Mr Yap several times about my project too. I did not proceed with him because he was too busy at that time. I guess his words "why so stupid" was properly just his style of talking and he did not actually mean it.

One point he highlighted is a lesson I learnt - don't pay deposit to a contractor upfront if you have a choice.

Try to choose a contractor who is willing to accept 0% outfront and pay progressive. Higher price a bit and you may be able to manage the risks. Previously, I renovated my apartment and engaged a contractor that did this.

For my current project, I paid a hefty 25% deposit before the commencement. The progress was so slow until I was worried that the contractor may not complete the task. I also suspect the contractor was using my deposit to fund other projects. Last week, he presented another big amount progressive claim for some work planned to do. If I made such a payment, it would mean I am paying 46% contract value for a 30% completion. Many contractors like to claim that the material prices go up and they need to lock the prices. I no longer buy that idea and I rejected his progressive claims. Now, I am having my own spreadsheet to control and ensure that I don't pay more than 5% - 10% ahead of the values delivered.

A lot of scary contractors nowadays. In view of the full lock down and uncertainty, do be careful of the deposits paid.
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I think what Mr Yap saying is correct.
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post Jun 13 2021, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(babybaby1988 @ Jun 9 2021, 06:15 PM)
Yea should get some proof.

Anyway few years ago i also asked Yap for quotation.

The first questions he asked is are u serious or not?

I was like wtf, i called you of course im serious.

While discussion, sometimes im late in replying whatsapp (within few hours late) and his response is - is this how slow u reply?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

In the end i asked an indon contractor, satisfied on quality and price AND ATTITUDE and till this day i still asked the indon to renovate my house every now and then.
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So lan si Mr Yap.. f him lah…u are right!

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QUOTE(mapala @ Jun 7 2021, 12:33 AM)
Has anybody here actually signed a agreement with the contractor before actually engaging them?
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No need . After agree everything, bothsides feel compelled and trust, than only sign. And always remember, no upfront payment allowed. Cos the contractor are not came with empty finance in his company. This I always highlighted.
Unless you engage foreign worker to works for you. Thanks
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anyone got good contractor to recommend for laminate flooring? thanks!
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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Jun 16 2021, 01:44 PM)
anyone got good contractor to recommend for laminate flooring? thanks!
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Call this number +60 10 226 4841
Brian Tang
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hi, if anyone has contact for main contractor with experience in building & construction of petrol station (not mandatory, but northern side contractor kedah/penang/perak would be more preferable), can whatsapp me at 01156215318.... thx all bros/ sis ... dry.gif dry.gif
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Be careful with this contractor.
Company Name: LOUIS CONSTRUCTION ENTERPRISE (002387729-T) based D-1, Sri Manja Court, Batu 6 ½, Jalan Klang Lama, 46000, Petaling Jaya, Selangor
Tel: 019-227 2632 , 016-650 9983

Very irresponsible, bad attitude, low quality work like beggar
Can make movie by crying in front of customer but has outstanding court warrant for stealing that is why become low class contractor

shitty work, avoid at all cost



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