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 Canon EOS Family, DSLR, EOS - V58, The White Paladins' Territory!

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Petre
post Sep 29 2014, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 11:32 AM)
Hey guys, would like your opinion

Is it wise to go from:

Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC
back to
7D Kit Lense 28-135
I plan to get a dedicated fixed focal.
I'm looking at 28/30mm 'cause 50mm is too close for my taste.
Ye can see in my Toy Whoreing thread of the shots I manage to get with the Tamron
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50mm and 135mm actually differ a lot? hmm.gif

if its me 17mm and 28mm is more crucial. furthermore, 17-50 is 2.8 constant

anyway its up to how you use your lens biggrin.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 29 2014, 12:03 PM)
50mm and 135mm actually differ a lot?  hmm.gif

if its me 17mm and 28mm is more crucial. furthermore, 17-50 is 2.8 constant

anyway its up to how you use your lens biggrin.gif
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50mm and 135mm bo difference meh laugh.gif

one can suka-suka stand far-far behind, the other must jam my way to the front.

kalau fixed focal can go all the way down to 1.8 isn't that better for in-door/low-light/portrait shots
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QUOTE(lamjunrong @ Sep 26 2014, 01:51 PM)
Just my opinion, i am not sure how often Canon release firmware update for its camera
If they do release the 750D, maybe a minor tweak done to the 750D eg. the video quality aspect you wanted. This can be done with a firmware upgrade, but instead they release a newer model to do the 'upgrade'. Pushing customer for the newer model. Same sensor since 550D to 700D, hope Canon can come out a bigger spec difference compared to the previous gen even is a beginner model. Not just announcing a model for the sake of announcing. biggrin.gif
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Most yearly DSLR updates for levels are
1. Slightly better iso performance
2. Slightly better AF
3. Add WiFi
4. Add touchscreen/flip screen
5. Better burst shot
6. Better video fps/resolution.

Essentially it's just a roullete and pick a new features from there.

Nothing new. Nothing groundbreaking.
Eg of what I would like to see :
implementing hyperlapse app into the camera. An in camera video editor with working gyroscope to create smooth hyperlapses. This will definitely sell well.
Programmable focus for video capturing in certain lenses. (aka rack focus on magic Lantern)
Smooth 1080p crop mode during video. Zoom in and out during video smoothly and still maintain that 1080p resolution.
Extremely fast wireless AC mode to stream to a computer. Heck. Can even stream raw or very high dynamic range video formats.
A fast and low noise foveon sensor or a resolution/sensitivity lytro sensor.

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post Sep 29 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 12:37 PM)
50mm and 135mm bo difference meh  laugh.gif

one can suka-suka stand far-far behind, the other must jam my way to the front.

kalau fixed focal can go all the way down to 1.8 isn't that better for in-door/low-light/portrait shots
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which is why its up to you to decide based on how you intend to shoot/use your lens biggrin.gif

like how some people only play fixed prime biggrin.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 11:32 AM)
Hey guys, would like your opinion

Is it wise to go from:

Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC
back to
7D Kit Lense 28-135
I plan to get a dedicated fixed focal.
I'm looking at 28/30mm 'cause 50mm is too close for my taste.
Ye can see in my Toy Whoreing thread of the shots I manage to get with the Tamron
Sekian, terima kasih
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have a deep thought on what you gonna shoot biggrin.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(teikboon @ Sep 29 2014, 02:49 PM)
have a deep thought on what you gonna shoot  biggrin.gif
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errg.

1. toys
2. amois (studio)
3. cosplay event

The zoom lens is kinda for general purpose walkabout when I'm travelling

I feel that my amoi pics not as crisp as other 'coz not using fixed focal.

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post Sep 29 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 02:52 PM)
errg.

1. toys
2. amois (studio)
3. cosplay event

The zoom lens is kinda for general purpose walkabout when I'm travelling

I feel that my amoi pics not as  crisp as other 'coz not using fixed focal.
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who poisoned you that can only get crisp amoi pic using prime? zoom lens can also ma biggrin.gif
if wan sniper amoi then zoom lens better lo, coz sometimes amoi near, sometimes amoi far biggrin.gif

anyway, do you hear whispers of a 50mm or 85mm prime? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Sep 29 2014, 02:58 PM)
who poisoned you that can only get crisp amoi pic using prime? zoom lens can also ma biggrin.gif
if wan sniper amoi then zoom lens better lo, coz sometimes amoi near, sometimes amoi far biggrin.gif

anyway, do you hear whispers of a 50mm or 85mm prime? biggrin.gif
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50mm or 30mm ler
that day shoot amoi with 50mm 1.8 lens in KL nearly terlanggar kereta coz backing up to get full shot

my camera is crop (7d, later will upgrade to mk2) so gotta consider the 1.6 factor.




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post Sep 29 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 03:17 PM)
50mm or 30mm ler
that day shoot amoi with 50mm 1.8 lens in KL nearly terlanggar kereta coz backing up to get full shot

my camera is crop (7d, later will upgrade to mk2) so gotta consider the 1.6 factor.
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finally i can poison someone to go for sigma 30 1.4 lol...

btw nobody poison you sigma 18-35 1.8 meh tongue.gif

anyway some sifu better reply to you coz i must admit i am just giving you random ideas without really backing my suggestions

just for your info i am using a sigma 30 1.4, i love it, but whether you will like, duno biggrin.gif

also you sound like you need a zoom lens not prime

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 11:32 AM)
Hey guys, would like your opinion

Is it wise to go from:

Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC
back to
7D Kit Lense 28-135
I plan to get a dedicated fixed focal.
I'm looking at 28/30mm 'cause 50mm is too close for my taste.
Ye can see in my Toy Whoreing thread of the shots I manage to get with the Tamron
Sekian, terima kasih
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If I may, what do you think about having 24-105mm f4L? Gives you the range, as well as the constant aperture. I know it's not in your option, but just in case you haven't considered it. tongue.gif

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look at the CA on the red bench doh.gif

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QUOTE(vankodoq @ Sep 29 2014, 03:56 PM)
If I may, what do you think about having 24-105mm f4L? Gives you the range, as well as the constant aperture. I know it's not in your option, but just in case you haven't considered it. tongue.gif
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my dad has that for his 5dmk3 already so I can technically leech it off him

he isn't around most of the time so I gotta build my own gear.

you know the times when you want to ambik gambar amoi but takde gear.
I've taken care of that problem by duplicating some of his stuff

occasionally he'll use my 7d for scenery shooting as he likes that crop can shoot further.

Isn't f4L not enough for portrait shots?
f4L can't exactly produce that super duper blurry background you see in most amoi shots
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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 05:52 PM)
my dad has that for his 5dmk3 already so I can technically leech it off him

he isn't around most of the time so I gotta build my own gear.

you know the times when you want to ambik gambar amoi but takde gear.
I've taken care of that problem by duplicating some of his stuff

occasionally he'll use my 7d for scenery shooting as he likes that crop can shoot further.

Isn't f4L not enough for portrait shots?
f4L can't exactly produce that super duper blurry background you see in most amoi shots

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A little misconception there. portrait isn't all about background blur/ bokeh. face expression/lighting/composition/background elements/ posing play a more important role imo. everyone can create blurred background as long as they have big aperture lens (f1.8 or something), but this doesn't mean good picture.

that being said, even with f4, at 105mm you can still produce blurred background.

for example shots like this (little NSFW due to lingerie) https://500px.com/photo/84753749/anastasia-...m=popular&only=

can still looks awesome with proper lighting and not so blurred background.

but if you are a big fan of bokeh, then the 24-105 might not be the best lens for it. shots like that look good too, but a lot of the time the picture is only left with a lot of blur, that's all.

my 2cents.

EDIT: more portrait with clear background.

https://500px.com/photo/84729045/us-by-espe...m=popular&only=

https://500px.com/photo/84724095/whitehair-...m=popular&only=

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Trying out some flat processing and wide crop smile.gif

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post Sep 29 2014, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Sep 29 2014, 06:27 PM)
A little misconception there. portrait isn't all about background blur/ bokeh. face expression/lighting/composition/background elements/ posing play a more important role imo. everyone can create blurred background as long as they have big aperture lens (f1.8 or something), but this doesn't mean good picture.

that being said, even with f4, at 105mm you can still produce blurred background.

for example shots like this (little NSFW due to lingerie) https://500px.com/photo/84753749/anastasia-...m=popular&only=

can still looks awesome with proper lighting and not so blurred background.

but if you are a big fan of bokeh, then the 24-105 might not be the best lens for it. shots like that look good too, but a lot of the time the picture is only left with a lot of blur, that's all.

my 2cents.

EDIT: more portrait with clear background.

https://500px.com/photo/84729045/us-by-espe...m=popular&only=

https://500px.com/photo/84724095/whitehair-...m=popular&only=
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Hmmm.
I might need to rejig my expectations when it comes to portrait shooting.

but f1.8 sure comes in handy in those low light environment (convention halls etc)
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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Sep 29 2014, 08:23 PM)
Hmmm.
I might need to rejig my expectations when it comes to portrait shooting.

but f1.8 sure comes in handy in those low light environment (convention halls etc)
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get a flash for event photography and you can see a different result tongue.gif
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Sep 29 2014, 10:41 PM)
get a flash for event photography and you can see a different result tongue.gif
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got a flash gun tapi x pandai pakai...

dunno where to aim lelz.
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donno where to aim then aim forward, which is the obvious position.
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battery grip or extra battery for camera? which one better?
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Sep 29 2014, 10:57 PM)
battery grip or extra battery for camera? which one better?
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Don't you need the extra battery to make the battery grip get its full use? You put 2 batteries in the battery grip. So you can get the extra battery first than think about whether you want the grip. But a battery grip would be nice also because it also take AA batteries but don't know how long the batteries last vs the camera batteries.

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