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post Aug 5 2014, 06:09 PM

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Long time didn't post anything since I was busy with my study. Some recent photos anyways.

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post Aug 5 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 5 2014, 05:38 PM)
budget? all of the cameras listed above are capable of doing what you wanted to do.
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Budget 3-4k sir. . . Included lens but i can buy later some better lenses after i learn more about it. . .

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QUOTE(teranun @ Aug 5 2014, 05:03 PM)
sifus what is better to have? canon EOS 60D or 70D? or is it okay to get EOS 600D or 700D?

it will be my 1st DSLR. it's for portrait, landscape, sports, animals, events, record videos...

so kinda all around camera... so guys can you give me some help?
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it all go down to your budget and whether you need those extra features that those camera have icon_rolleyes.gif
perhaps get the best lens for your budget.

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post Aug 6 2014, 12:57 AM

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But 70D is pretty impresive compared to others? Or not so much...? Budget is 3-4k body + lens. I can add more for lenses but have to get a body 1st. I can buy lenses in the future coz i got a job happy.gif
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QUOTE(teranun @ Aug 6 2014, 12:57 AM)
But 70D is pretty impresive compared to others? Or not so much...? Budget is 3-4k body + lens. I can add more for lenses but have to get a body 1st. I can buy lenses in the future coz i got a job happy.gif
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If you want to save the fuss of upgrading so fast, the 70D might be a better choice. For example I started photography around 3 years ago, but after 1 year learning, I feel a little limited by the 550D already because of the small grip and not so good high ISO performance. cons of the 70D compared to 600d/700d level camera is the heavier weight, larger size, more complicated interface because of buttons everywhere and the higher price. the autofocus, build quality, live view autofocus (focusing using screen) and better controls (more buttons as said previously, depends on you like it or not).

still you can get awesome pictures even from a basic camera, just that it will be harder for a basic camera and easier for a better camera.
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post Aug 6 2014, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(teranun @ Aug 6 2014, 12:57 AM)
But 70D is pretty impresive compared to others? Or not so much...? Budget is 3-4k body + lens. I can add more for lenses but have to get a body 1st. I can buy lenses in the future coz i got a job happy.gif
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I'm letting go my 70D. Pm me if you're interested.
70D is very impressive, it serves me well most of the time. It is one of the best apsc camera so far.
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Prefer getting a new one unless you sell it to me for kankong price hehe, but thanks for asking xiiaoban. . . Well i guess i'm gonna go with 70D then. . . Weight, size, interface wont have any prob with that. Thanks for the advice sifu. And to enquire more? Where is a good place to buy a new dslr around KL or bukit bintang area?
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QUOTE(teranun @ Aug 7 2014, 11:08 AM)
Prefer getting a new one unless you sell it to me for kankong price hehe, but thanks for asking xiiaoban. . . Well i guess i'm gonna go with 70D then. . . Weight, size, interface wont have any prob with that. Thanks for the advice sifu. And to enquire more? Where is a good place  to buy a new dslr around KL or bukit bintang area?
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 5 2014, 06:09 PM)
Long time didn't post anything since I was busy with my study. Some recent photos anyways.
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Hey this one kasi crop near near the bug, see if can see details, cuba first
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Hey this one kasi crop near near the bug, see if can see details, cuba first
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already cropped tongue.gif 22mm can't get a lot of details cry.gif
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 7 2014, 10:43 PM)
already cropped tongue.gif 22mm can't get a lot of details  cry.gif
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Why so wide???
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Hi guys, i need some 'brainwashing'
I was about to get an affordable DSLR, and i still not decided which brand to go for.
Nikon looks great on the paper and pricing, but some ppl advises me to go for canon due to the color looks better on human. but others do ask me to consider sony too,

i mean, why would you chose canon on day 1 guys? my friend bought a 700D and he told me he kinda regretted and he should buy nikon.

appreciate your feedbacks
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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Aug 8 2014, 02:53 PM)
Hi guys, i need some 'brainwashing'
I was about to get an affordable DSLR, and i still not decided which brand to go for.
Nikon looks great on the paper and pricing, but some ppl advises me to go for canon due to the color looks better on human. but others do ask me to consider sony too,

i mean, why would you chose canon on day 1 guys? my friend bought a 700D and he told me he kinda regretted and he should buy nikon.

appreciate your feedbacks
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Well,

Anyone who tried different brands come and explain to our friend here. But i believe all cameras will have their merit.

But ah, last time when i was promoting Canon cameras, I always tell people flip to the bottom and see where the cameras are made. All Canon even the lowest end DSLR comes from Japan, and all Nikons come from Thailand except the higher end unit.But now change liao, lower end made in Taiwan, i think 700d is made in Japan.

Best you use dpreview.com to check out and compare the camera you wanna buy and go to the shop and try one by one.

I am so used to the Canon's dials and positioning.
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post Aug 8 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(cIvIc_noob @ Aug 8 2014, 03:09 PM)
Well,

Anyone who tried different brands come and explain to our friend here. But i believe all cameras will have their merit.

But ah, last time when i was promoting Canon cameras, I always tell people flip to the bottom and see where the cameras are made. All Canon even the lowest end DSLR comes from Japan, and all Nikons come from Thailand except the higher end unit.But now change liao, lower end made in Taiwan, i think 700d is made in Japan.

Best you use dpreview.com to check out and compare the camera you wanna buy and go to the shop and  try one by one.

I am so used to the Canon's dials and positioning.
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Let me ask you this, why would you chose canon?
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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Aug 8 2014, 03:23 PM)
Let me ask you this, why would you chose canon?
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My personal reason I am using Canon is as follow, it may not apply to everybody.

My first SLR was a Canon film and i got it cheap with a Remote too, until today i still can use it on my new body. (Reason to buy: cause its cheap and i got a good deal and after taking some shots and processing it, i loved the bokeh produced by the camera and lens)

My second camera, digital was a Canon too as i can port the lens and accesory over. (I loved it, it was light and easy to use, colour wise can be manipulated in camera menu). Autofocus is fast and it was the cheapest DSLR in the market. (Reason to buy: Cheapest DSLR in the market at new and second hand! and it is made in Japan)

Then i traded some items with another film Canon with a zoom lens and accesories, i love how all the items are interchangeable between all and autofocus still works. Of course ef-s lens cannot go to ef body as they have different construction. (Reason to buy: didnt have to pay any money to get free cam, lens and accesories)

I then bought another semi pro DSLR from Canon because it has a magnesium alloy body and i tell you this is tough. (Reason to buy: Upgrade, magnesium alloy body, first time i tried the dial and the high fps, i am so hook)

Then i was working part time to support my studies as a camera promoter for canon, at camera fairs i get to socialise with many camera promoters and play play with many different brands. From there, Straight out of camera shots from the Canon are more naturally toned, sony's picture processing are more vibrant and Nikon's user interface wasn't very user friendly and they are all made in Thailand, back then, sony don't produce camera sensor and they were using Nikon camera sensors.

Some customers wanted to trade in, again i would makan myself if the camera is a good deal, i got another semi pro body for cheap, the cam was 8 years old, i tried it and it was still solid, everything was still functioning. Until today i still use it as my backup body and studio set.

I have been using that ever since and recently i added another Canon DSLR with video capabilities but sad to say they removed the magnesium alloy body from this range. (Magnesium alloy is really tough, I was in a product training and the trainer brought the camera frame of the 50d and he was easily over 100kg and he step onto it and it never even deformed.)

Why do I still use canon now?
1. My accesories and lens are canon specific and it will be a hassle to sell one shot, no reason to sell too.
2. I am used to the interfaces and dials
3. Fast autofocus
4. Most cantik-cantik photo you see online are photoshop, so its not always about the camera.
5. I know how to repair my own gears for example by taking a whole lens apart and changing parts.(There are tutorials online if you ever need one because many poeple use canon.)
6. I've used my cams under drizzles and no problem.
7. Most people i know uses canon and we sekejap sekejap "Bro, i got event to cover tomorrow, my lens under repair can pinjam yours as spare" or the next photographer i meet be it pro or amateur"
8. I've also used the service centre before, they are professional and get the repair and service done.


Why should you consider a canon?
1. I believe they still give 2 years warranty now, at one point of time they even back their product for 3 years warranty. Brands aside, you know warranty is always very important for electronics in case you get a lemon unit.
2. The lower end nikons cannot use af on their 50mm and has to mf, the canon ones from the first eos camera the 650 until the highest end one can use it. And the canon version cost like 300 bucks. I think the nikons are like 4-500.
3.Also if you go to a major sporting event, you will realise that a majority say 70% shoot canon, take a look at the pic below. The white lenses are all canon shooters. Why people use Canons? FAST AF. But please you must know the USM motors are the driving force of these lenses, not all lens are built equal. user posted image
4. You like natural skin tone straight out of camera.


Pls dont tell me TLDR, I spent some time writing this i hope you read it.

At the end of the day, whatever you choose, just practice practice practice, and capture the moment, and i remember a photog once said "I dont know of any good photographer and I only know those who post their best photographs."
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QUOTE(cIvIc_noob @ Aug 8 2014, 04:10 PM)
My personal reason I am using Canon is as follow, it may not apply to everybody.

My first SLR was a Canon film and i got it cheap with a Remote too, until today i still can use it on my new body. (Reason to buy: cause its cheap and i got a good deal and after taking some shots and processing it, i loved the bokeh produced by the camera and lens)

My second camera, digital was a Canon too as i can port the lens and accesory over. (I loved it, it was light and easy to use, colour wise can be manipulated in camera menu). Autofocus is fast and it was the cheapest DSLR in the market. (Reason to buy: Cheapest DSLR in the market at new and second hand! and it is made in Japan)

Then i traded some items with another film Canon with a zoom lens and accesories, i love how all the items are interchangeable between all and autofocus still works. Of course ef-s lens cannot go to ef body as they have different construction. (Reason to buy: didnt have to pay any money to get free cam, lens and accesories)

I then bought another semi pro DSLR from Canon because it has a magnesium alloy body and i tell you this is tough. (Reason to buy: Upgrade, magnesium alloy body, first time i tried the dial and the high fps, i am so hook)

Then i was working part time to support my studies as a camera promoter for canon, at camera fairs i get to socialise with many camera promoters and play play with many different brands. From there, Straight out of camera shots from the Canon are more naturally toned, sony's picture processing are more vibrant and Nikon's user interface wasn't very user friendly and they are all made in Thailand, back then, sony don't produce camera sensor and they were using Nikon camera sensors.

Some customers wanted to trade in, again i would makan myself if the camera is a good deal, i got another semi pro body for cheap, the cam was 8 years old, i tried it and it was still solid, everything was still functioning. Until today i still use it as my backup body and studio set.

I have been using that ever since and recently i added another Canon DSLR with video capabilities but sad to say they removed the magnesium alloy body from this range. (Magnesium alloy is really tough, I was in a product training and the trainer brought the camera frame of the 50d and he was easily over 100kg and he step onto it and it never even deformed.)

Why do I still use canon now?
1. My accesories and lens are canon specific and it will be a hassle to sell one shot, no reason to sell too.
2. I am used to the interfaces and dials
3. Fast autofocus
4. Most cantik-cantik photo you see online are photoshop, so its not always about the camera.
5. I know how to repair my own gears for example by taking a whole lens apart and changing parts.(There are tutorials online if you ever need one because many poeple use canon.)
6. I've used my cams under drizzles and no problem.
7. Most people i know uses canon and we sekejap sekejap "Bro, i got event to cover tomorrow, my lens under repair can pinjam yours as spare" or the next photographer i meet be it pro or amateur"
8. I've also used the service centre before, they are professional and get the repair and service done.
Why should you consider a canon?
1. I believe they still give 2 years warranty now, at one point of time they even back their product for 3 years warranty. Brands aside, you know warranty is always very important for electronics in case you get a lemon unit.
2. The lower end nikons cannot use af on their 50mm and has to mf, the canon ones from the first eos camera the 650 until the highest end one can use it. And the canon version cost like 300 bucks. I think the nikons are like 4-500.
3.Also if you go to a major sporting event, you will realise that a majority say 70% shoot canon, take a look at the pic below. The white lenses are all canon shooters. Why people use Canons? FAST AF. But please you must know the USM motors are the driving force of these lenses, not all lens are built equal. user posted image
4. You like natural skin tone straight out of camera.
Pls dont tell me TLDR, I spent some time writing this i hope you read it.

At the end of the day, whatever you choose, just practice practice practice, and capture the moment, and i remember a photog once said "I dont know of any good photographer and I only know those who post their best photographs."
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i am truly, truly appreciate of your writings, damn it was the best article to persuade me to get canon, thank you very much bro!
what is TLDR??
my aim is to get canon 700d as a starter camera, unless you suggest otherwise hehe...
budget wise erm, less than 2k
btw, i found this on mudah.my, isnt that too cheap to be true?

http://www.mudah.my/NEW+Canon+700D+with+18...ag-28385144.htm

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I find Canon colours to be amazing. I used to shoot a Sony A55 and the colours are stupid. Ken Rockwell noticed this too. Even the RX1 has stupid colours. Lots of people, when they are used to Canon, find Sony colours to be insipid.

You can't really achieve Canon colours in post either because colours are very, very complex. It is NOT just pushing a slider here and there in LR.

For me, canon is great for

1. Colours
2. Low price
3. It just works
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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Aug 8 2014, 04:22 PM)
i am truly, truly appreciate of your writings, damn it was the best article to persuade me to get canon, thank you very much bro!
what is TLDR??
my aim is to get canon 700d as a starter camera, unless you suggest otherwise hehe...
budget wise erm, less than 2k
btw, i found this on mudah.my, isnt that too cheap to be true?

http://www.mudah.my/NEW+Canon+700D+with+18...ag-28385144.htm
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TLDR, Too long, didnt read.

Any camera will do, why don't you just buy your friends camera since he say he wanna buy Nikon.

I've seen the sellers name many times in many platform should be trustable. if you takut, just go to the shop to buy.
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QUOTE(cIvIc_noob @ Aug 8 2014, 04:32 PM)
TLDR, Too long, didnt read.

Any camera will do, why don't you just buy your friends camera since he say he wanna buy Nikon.

I've seen the sellers name many times in many platform should be trustable. if you takut, just go to the shop to buy.
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just finished reading the 4th time of your article biggrin.gif

nah the price he offered me more than 2k, so i'll pass.

if this fella is trustable, i shall buy from him, 1,888 for a kitlens, hmmm, really cheap plus goodies

thank you guys, i have some questions in the future, hope you guys wont ignore me ya!

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