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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!

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Eiraku
post Aug 21 2014, 01:45 PM

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Hey there guys and gals. It's been a while since I was last here. Seems the family has grown... considerably... large.

It's wonderful that Sony has FINALLY made my greatest dream come true: the FF Nex, though in its current form it's still very much a unattainable luxury for me - unless I sell a kidney or something. Hopefully Sony comes up with an A6 or something for us poor mortals.

That said, I'm now keen on getting a new digital body, especially now that ColorDotCom has closed up shop (*cry*). Eyeing either a cheap second hand Nex6/Nex7 or an A6000, either new of second hand.

So, besides much improved controls, better battery life , faster AF and the xbionz - am I gonna miss much if I skip the A6000? Especially when my last experience with a DSLR was with the venerable A200?

I'm primarily gonna do still photography (landscape, archie, street, product shots, travel) mostly with MF legacy lenses and maybe sometimes with the kit lens or a 35mm prime of some sort (either the Sony 35 or the Zeiss, whichever comes up cheaper on the used market lol) - so "faster AF", "more AF points" and "a control system that isn't buried in menus" aren't really must-haves for me.

I'm looking to spend 4k max, much less if possible - especially as there's the accessories to consider too: batteries, lens-adapters, filtes, straps.

So, old Nex6/7 + cash for extra stuff or A6000?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 21 2014, 02:19 PM
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post Aug 21 2014, 02:59 PM

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Not sure with your previous owned lens, if u plan to stick with A mount, a77 II is just nice timing.

But if your prefer to jump to smaller compact mirrorless group, (your a200 lens will not mount directly, require an adapter) then the best all rounded for money now is the a6000 for around 2.3k with kitlens. The extra money can go for lens like 50mm or a 35mm
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Thanks to all sifus on your replies smile.gif

QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 20 2014, 05:41 PM)
depend you are looking for a 'walkaround' bag like a sling, quick access backpack(zip open from side) or waist bag.... or a 'transportation' bag, for full secure travel purpose, backpack or a trolley system.

everyone value bag differently. some willing to grab rm600-800 for a nice backpack, some willing to pay only 300-400 for something similar. my case, i always end grabbing cheapest offer i could get my hand on, then put some DIY modification to strengthen it. smile.gif
Good point there. I've always preferred a sling type of bag, easy access to my gear. Backpacks don't really appeal to me, cause of the same issue. I'm looking into waist bag as an option now too.

QUOTE(RX-78-2 @ Aug 20 2014, 05:49 PM)
You want to consider Sony LCS-BP2? I still have one brand new in packing!  tongue.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...&t=3053389&st=0

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Haha, I've got the same one from my A7 preorder. It's still collecting dust, but I'll be using it for this weekend's Alpha Workshop wink.gif See u guys there!

QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 20 2014, 06:02 PM)
Thanks for the suggestions bro Silverfire! But I'm not really a backpack fan at the moment... tongue.gif

I already have a Lowepro Even Messenger 250, and it has served me well. Just that it can't support 2 bodies with 4 lenses, even fitting the HVL-F60m into the side pocket is too tight (honestly I never dared to try fitting it in before).

I'm currently fixated on this bag I came across online. Can be sling, and can be waist. Seems durable from a video of it being stomped. Problem price wise, kinda expensive compared to other brands, and that's not including the shipping fees... =_=". Here's the link.



The main reason I want a big bag to store 2 bodies is for event photography. No time to switch lenses sometimes, so I'd rather have one prime and a zoom on separate bodies. The downside of a big bag is that it gets in the way in tight spaces...

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 21 2014, 12:21 AM)
The Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 has a stepless, clickless aperture ring, making it ideal for videography. There's a guy who brings it in to Malaysia with 1 year warranty.

However, it is difficult to manually focus if the subject is moving, and if you plan to record a movie you'll need to have very accurate focus or it will be very annoying to watch.
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Hi bro, who's the guy bringing the Speedmaster? Interested to have a look see.
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post Aug 21 2014, 04:21 PM

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Studio Zaloon start pre order for A5100 for 2399 with kit lens. ETA is 2 Sept 2014.

Street price for A6000 now is slightly less than that.


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post Aug 21 2014, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Aug 21 2014, 02:59 PM)
Not sure with your previous owned lens, if u plan to stick with A mount, a77 II is just nice timing.

But if your prefer to jump to smaller compact mirrorless group, (your a200 lens will not mount directly, require an adapter) then the best all rounded for money now is the a6000 for around 2.3k with kitlens. The extra money can go for lens like 50mm or a 35mm
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Thanks for the reply. Lenses? Well, I already sold away my Alpha stuff actually (including a 28-135 F4-4.5 Minolta Maxxum I very very dearly miss and would be SO KILLER on an A7) so the only lenses I have left are legacy Nikon AIS stuff and Minolta MF lenses.

As for the A77, I've decided to forgo the big guns this time around - a more compact camera would fit my current needs better IMHO.

Hmm, so an A6000 then. Is it so much an improvement over the older Nex 6?

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post Aug 21 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 21 2014, 05:59 PM)
Thanks for the reply. Lenses? Well, I already sold away my Alpha stuff actually (including a 28-135 F4-4.5 Minolta Maxxum I very very dearly miss and would be SO KILLER on an A7) so the only lenses I have left are legacy Nikon AIS stuff and Minolta MF lenses.

As for the A77, I've decided to forgo the big guns this time around - a more compact camera would fit my current needs better IMHO.

Hmm, so an A6000 then. Is it so much an improvement over the older Nex 6?
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key improvement, a serious AF speed from phase detect vs nex6. what i mean, u get af speed like a DSLR.
2nd key improvement, WHOLE frame is filled with Phase detect AF points.

this two improvement above will 'throw' other mirrorless ahead by a whole year in AF. meaning now the A6000 (and up coming A5100) has AF capability like a DSLR. which is really really really cool.

not to mention other stuff way ahead of A200, iso up to 6400 clean like iso400 in A200 (high five, im from the same era), crazy burst speed of 11fps, zone focus point selection (selection of 9 af point one time), cool EVF, new hotshoe~ it support wireless flash via F20M, F43M and F60M. peaking for manual focus (youtube for more info) and lot lot more
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I Plan to create a whatsapp group for people going for the Sony Melacca Super Alpha Workshop~ so we can chat and exchange information to assist each other, please PM me your number so i will add you in)

here are some update incase you had no recieve update information from Sony (2 person in office dealing with 200+ participant) 2 bus from penang, 4 from KL, and others driving down from seremban-johor to melacca.

Penang, Pickup point 1, Komtar - Maybank.
Penang, Pickup point 2, Juru AutoCity - McD.
Please be punctual, the bus will leave at 5am, so be there before 5am.


KL, Berjaya Time Square (underneath the monorail/aka taxi stand)
Please be punctual, the bus will leave at 9am, so be there before 9am.

and enjoy yourself guys!
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Finally decided to put some life onto my neglected Wollensak CRO Reptor 75mm f1.9 with the A6000. C&C welcome.

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post Aug 21 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 21 2014, 01:45 PM)
Hey there guys and gals. It's been a while since I was last here. Seems the family has grown... considerably... large.

It's wonderful that Sony has FINALLY made my greatest dream come true: the FF Nex, though in its current form it's still very much a unattainable luxury for me - unless I sell a kidney or something. Hopefully Sony comes up with an A6 or something for us poor mortals.

That said, I'm now keen on getting a new digital body, especially now that ColorDotCom has closed up shop (*cry*). Eyeing either a cheap second hand Nex6/Nex7 or an A6000, either new of second hand.

So, besides much improved controls,  better battery life , faster AF and the xbionz - am I gonna miss much if I skip the A6000? Especially when my last experience with a DSLR was with the venerable A200?

I'm primarily gonna do still photography (landscape, archie, street, product shots, travel) mostly with MF legacy lenses and maybe sometimes with the kit lens or a 35mm prime of some sort (either the Sony 35 or the Zeiss, whichever comes up cheaper on the used market lol) - so "faster AF", "more AF points"  and "a control system that isn't buried in menus" aren't really must-haves for me.

I'm looking to spend 4k max, much less if possible - especially as there's the accessories to consider too: batteries, lens-adapters, filtes, straps.

So, old Nex6/7 + cash for extra stuff or A6000?
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i would recommend u go for A6000. A6000 have faster & better AF performance, and better IQ icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 22 2014, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 21 2014, 01:45 PM)
Hey there guys and gals. It's been a while since I was last here. Seems the family has grown... considerably... large.

It's wonderful that Sony has FINALLY made my greatest dream come true: the FF Nex, though in its current form it's still very much a unattainable luxury for me - unless I sell a kidney or something. Hopefully Sony comes up with an A6 or something for us poor mortals.

That said, I'm now keen on getting a new digital body, especially now that ColorDotCom has closed up shop (*cry*). Eyeing either a cheap second hand Nex6/Nex7 or an A6000, either new of second hand.

So, besides much improved controls,  better battery life , faster AF and the xbionz - am I gonna miss much if I skip the A6000? Especially when my last experience with a DSLR was with the venerable A200?

I'm primarily gonna do still photography (landscape, archie, street, product shots, travel) mostly with MF legacy lenses and maybe sometimes with the kit lens or a 35mm prime of some sort (either the Sony 35 or the Zeiss, whichever comes up cheaper on the used market lol) - so "faster AF", "more AF points"  and "a control system that isn't buried in menus" aren't really must-haves for me.

I'm looking to spend 4k max, much less if possible - especially as there's the accessories to consider too: batteries, lens-adapters, filtes, straps.

So, old Nex6/7 + cash for extra stuff or A6000?
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Ok, so AF is not your concern.

Now the EVF has lower resolution in A6000 then in the Nex 6/7, but it is less lagged, which is good when in low light. The less resolution does not mean less quality, in fact, many said it has better image quality EVF because of less lagged and brighter. I used an A6000 before and I can say the EVF is brilliant, I use it more often than the LCD. Sharp, beautiful color.

Another major advantage in A6000 is better high ISO performance and higher resolution then NEX 6. 24MP vs 16MP is a 40% increase, not small you see. You have better crop option in a higher resolution image. As NEX 7, same 24MP, but ISO performance on A6000 outperformed it definitely.

On shooting video, A6000 image is far cleaner than NEX 6/7, especially on moire. Big improvement. And on video shoot, fast AF is good to have, trust me.

How much is the NEX 6 price difference from A6000? I don't know for today price. However, I highly recommend to get A6000. Get the latest technology, use it for another 10 years no problem. Worth it.
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Nex 6 cost much more than A6000. It would be silly to get Nex 6 now, even a used one
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:23 AM

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Anyone has experience using this white balance lens cap? Are they good for custom white balance? And can it also use as a lens cap for protection? I also worried it may not fit on my lens/filter as I read somewhere people saying some third party lens cap won't fit into their lens.

http://www.lazada.com.my/generic-white-bal...7mm-527670.html
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:36 AM

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Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 10:36 AM)
Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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Sounds like it. New E mount lenses. Does the A6000 and A7 use E mount? I don't know. Haven't been following the latest for awhile. sweat.gif If yes then new Zeiss lenses for them.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 10:36 AM)
Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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didn't say. but both also can use. just that if it's a aps-c lens, using on a7 would be crop mode.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 10:36 AM)
Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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Both can be used. But it's really meant for FF
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post Aug 22 2014, 12:42 PM

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yup.. just afraid on this... hmm.. maybe time to sell A7? ANy taker? tongue.gif

QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 22 2014, 11:36 AM)
didn't say. but both also can use. just that if it's a aps-c lens, using on a7 would be crop mode.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 12:42 PM)
yup.. just afraid on this... hmm.. maybe time to sell A7? ANy taker?  tongue.gif
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why?? A7 is the cheapest FF camera with great FF quality image. Is it not? laugh.gif
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post Aug 22 2014, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 22 2014, 12:48 PM)
why?? A7 is the cheapest FF camera with great FF quality image. Is it not?  laugh.gif
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That said the A7 lens catalogue for "proper" shooting (read: commercial shooting needing use of AF, OSS and stuff) is kinda sad, especially if you don't have the AF motor Alpha mount adapter. Not many first party FF lenses and even less third party stuff (which is bad news for a starving hobbyist like me).

Sure, there's the basic Sony stuff and the handful of Zeisses, but that's about it. Compare that with the long list of EF and FX lenses and you'll know what I mean.

It's actually sadder then during my A200 days, even when we used to moan about lens choice all the time. Back then we could easily get screw focus Minolta lenses because AF motor was in-body. And there was even more Minolta lenses than you could shake a stick at.

However, if you got the A7 to shoot manual lenses for fun it's a different story lol. Or if you don't mind using the slightly bulky LA-EA4, there's still those beautiful, beautiful Minolta glass floating around - especially the ones made for film.

Like the Sony/Minolta 135mm STF. Oh the STF. Good lord liquid bokeh literally dripping everywhere (though technically the STF is an MF lens so the LA-EA3 or even a Metabones adapter would suffice already).

In the end, Sony's mirrorless FF lineup still has quite a lot of room to grow, so time will tell.

BTW, has anybody begged Tamron to do an E-mount 17-50/2.8 yet? Or Sigma with their 16-35/1.8. Now that I'm firmly set on the A6000 I need lenses for the darned thing.

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