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vincentlee90
post Aug 11 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(lchee @ Aug 11 2014, 02:59 PM)
Well, I would say price really differ from shop to shop depend on what package you are looking for.  Some shop sell camera cheap, lens slightly more pricy, or accessory more pricy.  I bought my SEL35F18 for RM999 last month during the hari raya promo at fotokem in lowyat (price was cheap cause I bought the Sony A6000 from them as well).  Before committing to the purchase, I personally visited 8 camera shops ( within lowyat, sungei wang, mid valley), and called up two shops (yl, digitalmania and another japanese sounding website).  Standard camera with kitlens price all the shops are roughly the same.  But with package certain shops can do better.  So, to find the cheapest, one just have to go do the extra footwork.
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50% agree. haha. btw, if u very well known to camera dealer, dealer will try their best for offer best price & package to u
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in my case of shopping, its a little different. i wouldnt skimp a place for 50 ringgit cheaper, for the reason, i rather give the sale person a little extra to earn(commission?)... while i bully him kao kao... ok, im joking bout bully.... i make fun of the sale person in a good way, so i will leave a deep impression(charisma skill), then when i return and he'd recognize me... and he will automatically give me best price without asking. a few more visit and he will introduce to other sale person or maybe manager. soon, i'll be VIP of the shop with automatic best discount. smile.gif but i haven been hauling anything (big) since nov 2012... only battery (best price rm150 type M)
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post Aug 11 2014, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 11 2014, 09:39 PM)
in my case of shopping, its a little different. i wouldnt skimp a place for 50 ringgit cheaper, for the reason, i rather give the sale person a little extra to earn(commission?)... while i bully him kao kao... ok, im joking bout bully.... i make fun of the sale person in a good way, so i will leave a deep impression(charisma skill), then when i return and he'd recognize me... and he will automatically give me best price without asking. a few more visit and he will introduce to other sale person or maybe manager. soon, i'll be VIP of the shop with automatic best discount. smile.gif but i haven been hauling anything (big) since nov 2012... only battery (best price rm150 type M)
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a good way to become VIP icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 11 2014, 06:05 PM)
the ARW file, are Proprietary format to Sony. (same as crw for canon and nef for nikon)... they do not release the codes to public, and require very special license to use the codes. Only the Original Software develop by the own company will have full support to the ARW file. from a proper exposure control, to Color Profile, to Dynamic range control, to picture effect (canon)

Adobe does not have the license to operate ARW files, so adobe uses the closest color palettes chart to read them. hence you will Never get Sony color out from 3rd party software. so does canon and nikon, which many, even pro photographer doesnt notice that, only pure editors know only... so they operate on default 'flat/neutral' tone and adjust the color to their liking (split toning). very advance editing methods.

(that the reason i dont shoot raw, i shoot jpeg and learn to process the jpeg at its limit)
unlike car, no, it doesnt have a maintenance schedule.... just general self 'wear and tear cleaning'. all the compartment inside are designed to last quiet a long time. 5 year old A300 still running over 150,000 clicks...
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Thanks Ed Paul for the help. Your explanation is exactly how I faced when using Lightroom. But Photoshop is somehow different.

In Lightroom, the moment you imported the RAW, the colour is changed, hence you can edit based on the colour displayed in Lightroom.

But in Photoshop, the colour remains OK after I imported them. So I edit it based on what Photoshop displays. The problem comes when the photo is exported, which has a totally off colour.
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Is your camera shooting in aRGB or sRGB? It is best to use sRGB if you do not have the hardware for aRGB, simple as that.

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 12 2014, 10:07 AM)
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Is your camera shooting in aRGB or sRGB? It is best to use sRGB if you do not have the hardware for aRGB, simple as that.
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Yes, I always stick with sRGB.

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QUOTE(Ryou @ Aug 12 2014, 09:44 AM)
Thanks Ed Paul for the help. Your explanation is exactly how I faced when using Lightroom. But Photoshop is somehow different.

In Lightroom, the moment you imported the RAW, the colour is changed, hence you can edit based on the colour displayed in Lightroom.

But in Photoshop, the colour remains OK after I imported them. So I edit it based on what Photoshop displays. The problem comes when the photo is exported, which has a totally off colour.
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there is some camera color profile can be downloaded, it will give near, very near color to Sony's. i misplace mine sad.gif coz i hardly use raw.
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Nvr know raw r so complicated

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did u mean,

"3rd party company" has no access to Sony's Color via their Raw files?"

i dont know if there is any company come close or actually has the fullcolor table of the Sony raw data file... but its just color, a lot photographer will edit or use present to adjust the color effect at the end of day, just play around more it could create new style or even create a signature style like kenhui... where is stanley anyway? haven seen any of his post lately....
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post Aug 12 2014, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 12 2014, 06:50 PM)
did u mean,

"3rd party company" has no access to Sony's Color via their Raw files?"

i dont know if there is any company come close or actually has the fullcolor table of the Sony raw data file... but its just color, a lot photographer will edit or use present to adjust the color effect at the end of day, just play around more it could create new style or even create a signature style like kenhui... where is stanley anyway? haven seen any of his post lately....
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he's secretly polishing his macro photography XP
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Aug 12 2014, 10:58 AM)
can u see where's wally willy?
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he was not there
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post Aug 13 2014, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 11 2014, 06:05 PM)
the ARW file, are Proprietary format to Sony. (same as crw for canon and nef for nikon)... they do not release the codes to public, and require very special license to use the codes. Only the Original Software develop by the own company will have full support to the ARW file. from a proper exposure control, to Color Profile, to Dynamic range control, to picture effect (canon)

Adobe does not have the license to operate ARW files, so adobe uses the closest color palettes chart to read them. hence you will Never get Sony color out from 3rd party software. so does canon and nikon, which many, even pro photographer doesnt notice that, only pure editors know only... so they operate on default 'flat/neutral' tone and adjust the color to their liking (split toning). very advance editing methods.

(that the reason i dont shoot raw, i shoot jpeg and learn to process the jpeg at its limit)
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thx for ur info bro smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2014, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(joker98 @ Aug 11 2014, 12:13 AM)
True.

I guess at the end of the day, it is which shop that made you return and become a regular customer. I guess every shop will almost definitely give special price to their regulars.

Probably will end up diff shops for diff people. But I guess competition is quite high now.
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yes. thus, the best solution is - know dealer's manager and always makes them feel u are very important for them
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post Aug 13 2014, 01:09 AM

eh? ada 4 stars? lol
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hey there guys.. is the sel1018 worth the money? or the sel16f28 with UWA converter will come close to it in terms of IQ.. want to justify the significant price gap between them.. huhu

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