I will then endup with 2 408t's. If I decide to sell mine cos it's 2 years old, market value is around $80K, $50K loss! My car has been really good, only issue I've had is fluctuating coolant temperature, which is solved. I can't predict what issues I'll face with the new car.

Tks for the tip, but I'll keep my lion!

I am keenly waiting for the new 308. Hatchback suits my purpose better. This time will play it smart.........waaaaait! My car is running well, no hurry to change right away. Wait till the offers start, that is when I'll consider the change!

Dear 408 owner, I am posting here on behalf of my friend who drive a 408 and would like to know where to buy the chrome letter "E"<the chrome word at the boots > ?

Tried searching at Puchong area with several accessories shop but they don't sell it.

I'm going for my 50k service due soon and the service centre informed that its gonna be a minor only.

I recalled that someone had post in this thread that 50k service cost him somewhere around rm3k which i doubt a minor..

Any opinion on this contradiction? Btw, i'm on 5 yrs free maintenance scheme..

Hehehe.....don't get delirious bro. I've done extensive research on the Prince engine and will put an end to all your fears! I think you'll owe me a couple of beers for this info!

The person who wrote this is obviously not an owner of a Pug. I can say this from the statement he makes,it's a cut and paste of the Prince engine problems. If he was an owner and experienced the problems, he'd surely know what depollution problem is.

1st rule of thumb.....don't blow your fuse on what is said by a non owner! These jackos are just cut and paste kings!

Now, is the Prince notorious for engine problems.....yes! I will not deny this and it still is! By now your blood pressure must be rising. Cool,cool bro,the notoriously problematic Prince engine is the THP 140. Premature carbon buildup, takes place as early as 20k km. This triggered depollution error signal. Turbo units on this Prince have failed due cracked pressure outlet. Photo of the cracked turbo unit below. Remember this one was on the THP 140. HP Fuel Pumps have failed.

Then came THP 156, was much improved. ECU was retuned which solved 95% of the problems faced on the THP 140. I believe prolonged passive driving habits contributed to a certain portion of the problems on the THP156. Personally I've not been satisfied on what was done here, since a direct approach was not taken to rectify reliability issues. ( this is only 2cents worth). ECU retuned to solve some issues is actually an indirect approach.

Finally the THP 163, the engine on 408t. Redesigned all components with reliability issues. 8 mods were carried out towards reliability. Here's a summary:

1)Engine tuned to run on RON 87 petrol
2) Remapped ECU
3) New designed piston with lower compression
4) New designed catalyzer.
5) New engine oil filter housing with heat exchanger
6) New turbo charger
7) New fuel tank gauge unit with lower pressure pump to handle lower grade petrol.
8) A fuel filter to cater for hash atmospheric condition ( third world country)

Redesigned pistons make a difference in preventing premature carbon buildup. I did post sometime back,the effect of the new design and how this exactly works. If you need to know more details, just back track. Turbo unit completely redesigned,no more craked units complaints.

EP6CDTM on 408 has proved very reliable. Right now the new 308,3008 and 408 are fitted with this engine. Would not surprise me to see greater use of this engine. I have posted the 8 mods previously,am glad to post again to bring about greater awareness of the reliability of this engine.

Finally "less than stellar direct injection" is the panicle of nonsense! He obviously has no clue this engine is European Engine of the Year Award winner 8 times! This statement declares those European panel of judges non credit worthy!

You still think this guy knows what he talking about!

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Bro Skyjack, u never failed to impress me with your passion with the lion. These research are no easy task, myself still struggling to understand it fully. Haha... Layman like me are counting on pros like u when making decision. Keep up the good work!

You da mannnnnn SKYjack. Appreciate the info. Looks like im right when i say that this car has alot of potential.......potential to mod....LOL.....By the way, what in the world is depollution??

As for your beers....Do PM me to redeem....and also set a time....Hahahahaha.....Im serious mate....

Am interested, pm price please? Do I need the spacer as I thought mine should come with it right? Also, is it possible to trade in my new rim with outside tyre shop then ask them to fit in yours?

+1 (true accolades don't need words)

by the way, the 'm' is also in the 5008 and 508 (though not made known officially).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....092&ns=1#detail

I dont recommend to trade in your ori rim to tyre shop, as they provide low value only.
Maybe you can consider to keep for future use.

Can't tell you the exact meaning of depollution. However the French,for want of a better word, use this word to indicate engine problems. There are quite a few engine issues that will generate this signal.

However, it's an electronic language that the diagnostic equipment understands and interacts with to process information.

Tks for your offer on the beers mate. Will call on you on one my trips to KL. We should get together for a chat. I'm sure you'll use that opportunity to further pick my brain....hehehe .

Hi jfcheong,

Thank you for the link. By any chances, do you know any local auto accessories shop that sells the "peugeot" chrome word? It would be more convenient to purchase locally if there is

That's good as the engine's reliability will improve public opinion on Pugs. Sadly BMW's support and future development with PSA on the Prince will end by 2016.

'depollution' is a term used by peugeot to denote an error which causes the car to emit excessive emissions above the set amounts/limits as defined by the car's ecu.

so, in essence, it can mean anything that goes wrong that causes the exhaust to sense excessive toxic emissions. some causes could be wrong fuel used, malfunctioning spark plugs, turbo problems, use of wrong viscosity oil, leaks in the induction system and so on and so forth. but in the prince, the key reasons for the 'depollution' term to pop up can be traced to a few key causes. do note, it does appear in other non-turbo models as well but for other reasons.

hope this helps.

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ours is 4x108..than i make a spacer to pull out the tyre from the original condition and change from 4x108 to 4x100...now i wanna mod from 4x100 to 4x114 so i can load my new 18inch vossen rim...

Where you got this information bro ?

which will be painful to look for spare part in the future

From a friend in Glenmarrie. Plannning to buy?

Ok guys. Moment of truth. Going to make the booking for 408 TE Blue. Any last minute suggestion and concerns from my friends here?

Also my SA is giving Wingard tinting. Any review on this tint though was preferring other brands.

Very keen to put the OEM Touch Screen from peugeot. Wont void warrant.