Oh? Why did you choose Eumayco in the end?

Because I can't seem to find much review on memoryjewellery specifically on diamond ring and also Sentul is quite a journey from where I stayed. So put my trust with Eumayco

All right! Looking forward to the final outcome! When is the expected delivery date? And how long it will take?

ya, hope for the best. They say early of May, but will let me know if it can be done earlier. I feel that is a bit long but don't wanna rush them worry later quality tarak.

This post has been edited by cakoi898: Apr 13 2017, 03:14 PM

Alright! Looking forward to see your new ring!

Hi to all the sifus here, have been hunting the rock for a while in local store, need some advice on below GIA loose diamond from WC and Habib:

1. 7241343630 0.37 g si1
2. 6241454718 0.37 g si1
3. 2171917495 0.37 f si1
4. 2197869343 0.36 h vs2
5. 2165708609 0.36 h vs2
6. 7231577093 0.37 g vs2

My doubt here is some of the diamond if viewed from naked eye, it's more brilliant than the other, but when check on the cut proportions with HCA tool, the figure returned is the other way round
Example, by comparing the similar spec, although #3 and #6 has better HCA reading
#1 and #2 seems to be more brilliant than #3 and
#4 and #5 seems to be more brilliant than #6

So HCA isn't really the final factor of determining the cut performance? confused here haha
Also checked out D&P, found their Estrella series (IGI cert), is really shiny and blink, but smaller ct and higher price, they claimed Estrella series is above ideal cut, and I guess pricing is also due to the platinum ring setup.

HCA is a diamond rejection tool. You use it to reject poor performers and not use it to choose diamond.

Diamond 1&2 is actually abit deep. Diamond 3 proportions is actually pretty good, but that is based on proportions alone. If the diamond is cut badly, then it will impact its appearance as well. You have the opportunity to look at each stone yourself, so it is good to find the one thay best suits your taste and budget. Diamond 4 proportions seem not bad.

As for Estrella, they are called Hearts & Arrow diamonds aka Super Ideals. However, becareful with the proportions because last check, their range are quite wide, so it will be a mixed bag of good and poor diamonds. Insist to find out the Hearts at the bottom of the pavilion. IGI cert overall is not as famous as GIA nor AGS. Lastly, do a check on how much they charge for a loose Estrella diamond, if the price is significantly higher than what you can purchase from WhiteFlash, Brian Gavin Diamonds, or High Performance Diamonds, then it is not worth it.

Thanks for your input koh, was expecting your reply , learnt a lot from this thread. I thought the proportions is translating how well a diamond is cut, isn't it? What do you think about #5, it has H&A in the inscription, from what I read around, it's not necessarily true H&A though.

As for the Estrella that I come across,it's looks really brilliant, not sure because of the 3 prongs setting or because of the store's lighting. I did ask whether they have loose diamond of it but the answer is no, mayb should check out other branch as well.

This post has been edited by Sigmax: Apr 17 2017, 06:25 PM

any comment on this?

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...ond-3767816.htm

The #5 proportions checks out pretty well. 34 degrees crown angle is not bad, but if you want to be picky about it, then I would say it may lack a bit of fire because the general rule is the steeper the crown angle, the more fire there is. (but don't go too steep la).

It may be H&A, but H&A is very subjective. The best H&A probably comes from Brian Gavin Diamonds, factoring in skill and price. Hearts on Fire is also a brand that sells H&A diamoonds, but it comes with a big premium that will burn your pocket. You can try ask in Habib, they do carry that brand.

For best value, I think you can't go wrong with WhiteFlash. Do compare the price against Estrella though if you wish, and let us know.

Try to look for the proportions fall within the BOLD BLACK H&A:
http://www.heartsandarrows.com/hearts-arro...al-cut-dna.aspx

I think most important is that the diamond price must be reasonable, and not overpriced. I usually just coompare the price against WhiteFlash and convert to ringgit using M2U Forex Rate. And then factor in the cost to get the setting done elsewhere.

And yes, it is good if Estrella can show you the loose diamond to prove that it is what it is. I never try asking though. Only saw their sample loose diamond which actually looks very nice.

Good luck!

This diamond has good light return and its fire should be relatively strong. Hearts and Arrows seem good enough as well. Seems like you are looking for the diamond that will give you the best value as you are looking at G VS2.

just comfirmed this order

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...ond-3824333.htm


thx for the recommendation


BTW , whiteflash first timer discount only apply on deal above USD2000 and above



and the WireTransfer via Maybank is called Maybank foreign telegraphic at Maybank2u?

Yep. It is called wire transfer. Ya. unfortunately it only applies to usd 2k above. let's wait for your next upgrade.

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Thanks.

Wow, more figure to check out now
Thanks for the tips

Any bro can give some advise below spec diamond ok or not? Thanks
Carat: 0.30ct
Color: E
Clarity: VS 2
Cut: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Med
Depth %: 62.10%
Table %: 57.00%
Crown Angle: 36.0
Pavillion Angle: 40.6
Hearts & Arrows: Excellent

Fluorescence: Med Comment: Diamonds with fluroescence is usually cheaper. Preferred that there is no fluorescence.
Depth %: 62.10% Comment: Depth still okay, but try to limit at 62%.
Crown Angle: 36.0 Comment: Try to limit max at 35.5 degrees. Preferably somewhere between 34-35 degrees.

No problem. Once you know more, you will make a better judgement. Good luck!

If this diamond including setting 18k white gold around Rm 49xx does it expensive?

Hmm, really depends how heavy is the 18k white gold your vendor is providing. And what are the contents.

For example, 18k white gold with palladium is more expensive than 18k white gold with nickel.

Assuming you are getting 18k white gold with nickel, 3.3 - 3.6 gram (according to Memory Jewellery), a default design in their inventory will probably cost you some price around RM 750.00 (last check on 7 Feb), while for custom design, the price will vary, probably around RM 1000 - RM 1500. Best if you reach out to them and check things out.

This 0.33ct E VS2 WhiteFlash diamond [https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)] is bigger than the 0.3ct offered to you, and has better proportions. M2U for Forex rate for transfer now is 4.461. Therefore, the final price for this loose diamond is RM 3974.75. Add 6% GST will be around RM 4213.24. Add on RM 50 misc. charges for things like GST on freight, M2U TT transfer charges, final price will be RM 4263.24.

You can probably get this ring set in your default/custom design with a final price between RM 5013.24 - RM 5763.24.

Also, if you get a loose stone and ring setting from the same vendor, usually the ring setting price will be cheaper compare to what you can get elsewhere. So, if I assume the price of the ring setting that is offered to you is at RM 750, this make the stone to be around RM 41xx. In this case, then I don't think the stone is worth it, given the fact that it has a crown angle there is over-steep and a medium fluroescence.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Apr 18 2017, 04:01 PM

Bro oh mean crown angle and med fluorescence not good?