Hmm... For 6k to 8k, 0.4ct is feasible for natural diamond. In fact, you can get much higher carat weight if you opt for lab-grown diamond. I will try to find some options later.

I would probably get this if I want a natural:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). It is larger in size compare to 0.4ct. this is around RM 6300 for stone alone.

If I want to save slightly more on comparison, I will go for this:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). It is slightly smaller but it is also cheaper and earns the title of "collection series". So if you like such marketing, then it is good to go with this one. This is around 6100 for stone alone.

You can find out the price in ringgit via Wise: https://wise.com/invite/ath/yangk31 (affiliate link)

If you buy typical GIA stone, it will definitely be cheaper if you find the right source.

For lab-grown, I will probably pick this: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)

This is also another good option:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). The hearts maybe very very little bit not as good as the one above, but comparing until like this is actually not to practical. More like mind clean thing. The diamond sparkle video does show that the E VS1 has a cleaner look too, hence maybe that is one plus point over this.

Lastly, if I don't mind all those minor things, I would probably take this: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...id=myengringexp (affiliate link), around same price but bigger, not the best hearts and arrows, but differences is trivial. Good colour, good clarity, good size, and in-house vetted. It is a nice lab-grown worth considering.

Usually I will help to do the ring setting is customer buy from WhiteFlash because alot jeweler refuse to set other jeweler's diamonds. That is also provided you are in KL/PJ area. My price for 0.4ct starts from 1600, for 1ct may be slightly higher.

Another good place to buy lab-grown is Ritani: https://www.ritani.com/collections/lab-grow...t%3Dprice%257C1. price is very very attractive. This one you can search for yourself and see.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Jan 5 2023, 10:58 PM

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This post has been edited by gn655198: Jan 6 2023, 09:40 AM

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). It is slightly smaller but it is also cheaper and earns the title of "collection series". So if you like such marketing, then it is good to go with this one. This is around 6100 for stone alone.

Thanks for the recommendation on natural and lab grown diamond. For now i'm only interest in natural diamond.

The larger stone seem have some dirt inside the heart and arrow view. The smaller one look great.

Personally i prefer the smaller one but i think most girl will focus on bigger C more than anything else since the dirt is not something we can see with naked eye.

Currently diamond and platinum staff offered me one GIA certified natural diamond 0.43carat, E, VVS2, 3ex at RM6010. GIA 2348671806. i checked the rating manually at https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca it seem getting pretty high mark. is it good? The only thing that bothered me is the GIA cert is generated on 22 Jan 2020. Wonder why nobody take it.

The diamond is graded in Jan 2020, around MCO period. That can be one of the possible reasons why this diamond is still around. Wedding related business was slow back then.

The diamond offered by diamond and platinum has great proportions. Do note that this diamond has faint fluorescence, but it is not a deal breaker. The price is fair enough for a brick-and-mortar and if it is under their Estrella brand, it is even better as it should have a better cut quality compared to generic GIA diamonds.

This is not under Estrella brand. Only their stock GIA certified loose diamond, this diamond have 57 cut.
below is the scope image.

Looks pretty nice. Do you have the image from the bottom? That's the hearts.

This is the heart image.

Not the best of hearts, but decent enough for me. You can consider about this diamond or maybe even haggle a little

i've tried asking for some discount but unfortunately the price is net. Non nego. Price pair with platinum ring would be around RM7410.

Since my gf do not know much about jewel i felt it is more suitable to propose with branded ring (shop like love & co, degem, tiffany & co, poh kong, tomei etc) more than custom made GIA certified ring.

I visited love & co, degem, and wahchan today to do some price checking and below is my finding.

Love & Co (Lovemarque) - i liked the design but the price was big knock off. With my budget i can get 0.3carat ring.

Degem (BigC, Lazare diamond) - BigC was pretty impressive, nice design, nice presentation, well explained, and my budget only can get 0.3 caret ring. D, VS1 spec. After knowing my budget the sales person offered me their lazare diamond ring, 0.43 carat/VS2/I clarity. Simple yet elegant design. I liked.

He told me lazare diamond is a premium brand and very well known in SEA market. They give huge discount to clear the stock (the price tagged 3 year back is around 13k) now net at RM8300. Is this deal worth it?

Wah Chan - Very friendly sales rep. Offered me 0.50 carat/H/VS2 gem at RM7800 and 0.40 carat/D/VVS1 gem at RM6100. (Loose diamond only). Didnt pull trigger cause the ring setting look dated.

Lastly, diamond & platinum - I went back and told them the situation. Sales rep was friendly and offered me their in house brand estella. 0.41 carat/E/VS1. RM10240 with platinum ring setting. This is my first choice since i like it but it was over my budget and I do not know as if my gf will like it since this is not international brand.

Wonder if I should go for forevermark or lazare ring offered by degem? Is I color look bad? Honestly I can't see any different between E and I with my naked eye.

This post has been edited by gn655198: Jan 8 2023, 02:41 AM

7410 seems like a decent price for brick-and-mortar.

LoveMarque - I prefer the one with IIDGR cert over the IGI cert. The former cert has hearts and arrows image. You are paying extra for the branding and the marketing. I would consider though, if I want some branding. Love & Co settings look great.

Lazare - this brand is quite famous I believe. In the US, some may also heard of it. They are well-cut diamonds. Nett at 8300 for I VS2 again, is overpriced, unless you want the branding. They used to quote me 12 to 13k for 0.4 F VS2 I think. I can probably do that in almost half if I remove the branding - GIA + custom ring. Still, if you priority is branding, do consider. They should be clearing stock to make way for their new brand Brilliant C, which I believe is graded by AGS and it is their in-house brand.

Wah Chan usually offers best bang for your buck diamond prices. If you like the stone, and you feel that their design is dated, you can see if they custom for you.

Recent Estrella by forumers here show that the stones have decent proportions. But 10k for that specs is still expensive IMO.

I colour is still consider near colourless. It may be hard to see the differences. You may notice the differences under certain lighting environment, but in normal view, it is hard to see.

Based on what you said, it seems that you are aiming for branding. If that is the case, Forevermark may be the better option. At least I see them as a more internationally recognized brand. Forevermark black label is their top of the line as far as I know.

Forevermark in malaysia is distributed by Degem. Diamond and Platinum belongs to the same Degem group, so they carry that brand as well. Plus point of getting Forevermark is the ring designs, which is only eligible for Forevermark stones, and they seem beautiful.

Thanks for the helpful recommendation. I will go for forevermark stone for 0.36c/D/VS1. Price around RM8.2k ++ but loved the design and stone! Guess i will order it tonight.

Drop us some gorgeous pics!

My photo taking skill is very bad.





This post has been edited by gn655198: Jan 9 2023, 10:28 PM

Looks nice. Good luck with your proposal!

Hi,

Good afternoon.

I have a American Gem Society Laboratories (AGS) certified 0.421 carat round brilliant diamond which I bought from Whiteflash,com, Texas under their A CUT ABOVE category when I was interested to learn more about diamond few years ago.

It is a very beautiful diamond with the following excellent grades :-

Cut Grade AGS Ideal 0
Color Grade AGS 1.0 ( F)
Clarity Grade AGS 3 (VS1)

Of course the above round brilliant diamond comes with the original certificate by AGS

I understand that nowadays the price of diamond is not cheap especially for such a top class diamond and the high expenses you need to spend for your wedding. I am willing to sell the above diamond mainly just to recover the costs of purchase.

If am from Kuala Lumpur. If you are interested please PM me.

Have a good day

can I know how long does it take for yours to be delivered to malaysia?

Hi sifus,

am planning to get a lab diamond ring from Ritani because of the pricing they provide, but abit skeptical on it since the price they are providing is so much cheaper than other brand such as ZCOVA, is there anything else that I need to know before purchasing from them?

This is the diamond im looking at for the moment.

This diamond is created using CVD process, not HPHT.

CVD is cheaper. HPHT is more expensive.

"The HPHT method, first used to successfully grow diamonds by General Electric in 1954, essentially mimics the natural process - carbon is crystallized as diamond through intense heat and pressure deep within the Earth.'

"In the past, CVD synthetics displayed graining patterns not found in natural diamonds, as well as distinctive fluorescence reactions."

So based on above statements, I will say that HPHT should be more similar to natural diamond.

ZCOVA lab grown diamond is not cheap, but neither it is overly expensive. I think you may get 10% discount, but I am not sure whether the promo has ended.



https://www.gia.edu/gia-news-research-impro...ive%20equipment.

I've just tried to check on ZCOVA site for something similar, but the thing is on ZCOVA site a pear diamond with lower carat cost roughly 50% more

Ritani



Zcova

TBH it doesnt concern me too much whether if its CVD or HPHT as long as they look fine to naked eye, am more worried regarding if purchasing from a US site and not a local vendor will results in extra hassle if anythings go wrong.

Maybe also if there is any additonal tax and duties I need to pay when the diamond arrived (but during the checkout page they mention there is no additional charges that is)