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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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Melhere P
post Nov 9 2022, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(jasperng @ Nov 9 2022, 09:52 AM)
thanks for the clear explanation. Now i know how to compare. 

Even singapore company seems to be competitive however we need to include shipping fee.
Thanks for recommendation!
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I think Michael Trio is offering free shipping too. And you can get a free ring sizer too if you want.

But more like you have to find out the custom clearance process. smile.gif
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post Nov 9 2022, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Melhere @ Nov 8 2022, 11:02 AM)

Whiteflash is a super ideal cut company. The prices will be more expensive by 20 to 40% compared to generic GIA diamond as super ideal cut requires carat weight to be sacrificed for a better shine. 

If you are aiming for top quality diamond then it makes sense to look at super ideal cut. But if you are not very particular and just want a diamond ring, then you should just go for GIA diamond. 
Actually there is always this misconception that buying diamond overseas will be cheaper. In fact, the local jewellers (those with GIA listing online) are now very competitive that even the biggest US online player, Blue Nile is not that cheap. 

For example a GIA 0.3 carat H VS2 3EX None with starting price of 18k setting:-

Baemont                      : RM2,069 + RM1,399 (setting starting price) = RM3,468
Diamond & Platinum      : RM2,170 + RM900 (setting starting price) = RM3,070
Lavin New York              : RM4,050 (inclusive of simple setting) 
Zcova                          : RM2,180 + RM1,650 (setting starting price) = RM3,830
Michael Trio (Singapore) : RM2,274 + RM1,584 (setting starting price) = RM3,858
Blue Nile                      : USD 421+ USD 600 (setting starting price) = RM4,850

*Very important to look at setting price too as some will charge cheap for diamond but high for setting (ie Blue Nile). 

Of course, this is a simple search based on 4Cs, without taking into account the type or location of inclusion, the actual proportion etc. But you get the idea. All of them is cheaper than Blue Nile.
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Hi, thanks for your listing on all the engagement ring company in Malaysia as currently I am surveying on engagement ring.

Going through your list on these brands, I managed to find out Diamond & Platinum and Lavin New York is having the cheapest price among them.

With example of GIA 0.3carat H VS2 3EX and None Fluorescence with 18K settings:

Diamond & Platinum:
https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXTRX.md.jpg

Lavin New York:
https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXer8.md.jpg

Is Lavin New York a good place to visit?

As I had told that they have physical diamond on hand, and I am able to see the diamond which listed on their website on my own eye and not only checking on the spec on the paper itself.

I believe that it is important to see on the physical diamond before I make any purchase on the internet (since it is something that expensive and meaningful)

Can anyone give me a suggestion on which one to go for? stars:
kambingkoh
post Nov 9 2022, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(theLovingCouple @ Nov 9 2022, 09:46 PM)
Hi, thanks for your listing on all the engagement ring company in Malaysia as currently I am surveying on engagement ring.
Going through your list on these brands, I managed to find out Diamond & Platinum and Lavin New York is having the cheapest price among them.
With example of GIA 0.3carat H VS2 3EX and None Fluorescence with 18K settings:
Diamond & Platinum:
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXTRX.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXTRX.md.jpg </a>
Lavin New York:
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXer8.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXer8.md.jpg </a>
Is Lavin New York a good place to visit?
As I had told that they have physical diamond on hand, and I am able to see the diamond which listed on their website on my own eye and not only checking on the spec on the paper itself.
I believe that it is important to see on the physical diamond before I make any purchase on the internet (since it is something that expensive and meaningful)
Can anyone give me a suggestion on which one to go for? stars:
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It is always best to have a look given the chance. You can try use https://www.diamondscreener.com/cut-estimator/ to see diamonds with similar proportions (more or less).
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post Nov 10 2022, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(theLovingCouple @ Nov 9 2022, 09:46 PM)
Hi, thanks for your listing on all the engagement ring company in Malaysia as currently I am surveying on engagement ring.
Going through your list on these brands, I managed to find out Diamond & Platinum and Lavin New York is having the cheapest price among them.
With example of GIA 0.3carat H VS2 3EX and None Fluorescence with 18K settings:
Diamond & Platinum:
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXTRX.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXTRX.md.jpg </a>
Lavin New York:
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXer8.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2022/11/09/EZXer8.md.jpg </a>
Is Lavin New York a good place to visit?
As I had told that they have physical diamond on hand, and I am able to see the diamond which listed on their website on my own eye and not only checking on the spec on the paper itself.
I believe that it is important to see on the physical diamond before I make any purchase on the internet (since it is something that expensive and meaningful)
Can anyone give me a suggestion on which one to go for? stars:
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My apologies i made a mistake in my previous post. The RM4,050 (inclusive of simple setting) is Tailored Jewel. Lavin New York is RM2,243 + RM970 (setting starting price) = RM3,213.

This is the correct one:-

Baemont : RM2,069 + RM1,399 (setting starting price) = RM3,468
Diamond & Platinum : RM2,170 + RM900 (setting starting price) = RM3,070
Lavin New York : RM2,243 + RM970 (setting starting price) = RM3,213
Tailored Jewel :RM4,050 (inclusive of simple setting)
Zcova : RM2,180 + RM1,650 (setting starting price) = RM3,830
Michael Trio (Singapore) : RM2,274 + RM1,584 (setting starting price) = RM3,858
Blue Nile : USD 421+ USD 600 (setting starting price) = RM4,850

*But just to note these are not all the engagement ring companies in Malaysia. I'm merely stating those that have the generic GIA listing online. There are still the bigger retailers like Tomei, Habib, Lazo Diamond, Degem, SK, Love and Co, Tiffany etc, which offers various type of diamonds (could be ideal cut, super ideal cut or even lab grown). Some also offer very good deals for GIA but may not list them online.

Anyway, unless the location is too far from you, if not it is indeed important to be able to view the real diamond with your own eyes as sometimes, certificate does not tell the full story.

And yes i think Lavin New York is a good place to visit as I have heard good reviews about them. But my recommendation is to always visit a few more different jewellers to see which one can give you a better offer (including recommendation based on diamond proportion, after sales service etc). You never know what you are missing out from others if you only visit one store. tongue.gif



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post Nov 10 2022, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Melhere @ Nov 10 2022, 08:30 AM)
My apologies i made a mistake in my previous post. The RM4,050 (inclusive of simple setting) is Tailored Jewel. Lavin New York is RM2,243 + RM970 (setting starting price) = RM3,213.

This is the correct one:-

Baemont                        : RM2,069 + RM1,399 (setting starting price) = RM3,468
Diamond & Platinum      : RM2,170 + RM900 (setting starting price) = RM3,070
Lavin New York              : RM2,243 + RM970 (setting starting price) = RM3,213
Tailored Jewel                :RM4,050 (inclusive of simple setting)
Zcova                          : RM2,180 + RM1,650 (setting starting price) = RM3,830
Michael Trio (Singapore) : RM2,274 + RM1,584 (setting starting price) = RM3,858
Blue Nile                      : USD 421+ USD 600 (setting starting price) = RM4,850

*But just to note these are not all the engagement ring companies in Malaysia. I'm merely stating those that have the generic GIA listing online. There are still the bigger retailers like Tomei, Habib, Lazo Diamond, Degem, SK, Love and Co, Tiffany etc, which offers various type of diamonds (could be ideal cut, super ideal cut or even lab grown). Some also offer very good deals for GIA but may not list them online. 

Anyway, unless the location is too far from you, if not it is indeed important to be able to view the real diamond with your own eyes as sometimes, certificate does not tell the full story.

And yes i think Lavin New York is a good place to visit as I have heard good reviews about them. But my recommendation is to always visit a few more different jewellers to see which one can give you a better offer (including recommendation based on diamond proportion, after sales service etc). You never know what you are missing out from others if you only visit one store.  tongue.gif
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Yeah, thanks for the insight provided from sifu Kambingkoh and you, I'm from JB, I think the difference between the price is worth for me to travel to KL (aka take a short break).

I have been visited those retail shop in shopping mall, their price is much more expensive (but I understand that they will need to cover their rent, branding and marketing cost).

For example,

SK, their 0.3 carat engagement ring(not GIA cert summore) is around RM 5k+ (I could buy a 0.4carat engagement ring liao from other brand)

For Wah Chan, their price is around RM 2k+ but their spec is like J Color and VVS2(which I think a color G and above, and clarity VS2 and above should be a priority from my research)

So at the end, I will give a chance for those CP value high brand like Diamond & Platinum and Lavin New York a try!

Will update here once I visited those shop biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Nov 11 2022, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Nov 9 2022, 03:29 PM)
You can compare the price between them and what you can find here. Some Malaysia jewelers are carrying lab-grown too and might connect to the same supplier.
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Okay, what I found so far for lab grown diamonds zcova carries some good ones, but Ritani’s price are just too good, based on what I read on reddit they’re quite reputable.

One question I have is about the heart and arrows pattern, some diamons the arrows are black coloured, some are white/silver coloured, may I ask if which one is the better/ideal ones? Thank you

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And may I ask if this diamond is good? Thanks in advance!

https://www.ritani.com/products/1-13-carat-...ku-d-tszfceoz8z

kambingkoh
post Nov 11 2022, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(VonGoLaDeciMo @ Nov 11 2022, 06:48 PM)
Okay, what I found so far for lab grown diamonds zcova carries some good ones, but Ritani’s price are just too good, based on what I read on reddit they’re quite reputable.

One question I have is about the heart and arrows pattern, some diamons the arrows are black coloured, some are white/silver coloured, may I ask if which one is the better/ideal ones? Thank you

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And may I ask if this diamond is good? Thanks in advance!

https://www.ritani.com/products/1-13-carat-...ku-d-tszfceoz8z
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Looks not bad. But no longer available. Price seems very good.
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post Nov 16 2022, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Nov 11 2022, 09:37 PM)
Looks not bad. But no longer available. Price seems very good.
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aiya abit too slow haha

https://www.ritani.com/products/0-72-carat-...ku-d-3z8hel0qkj



https://www.ritani.com/products/0-93-carat-...ku-d-20caoubcxq



Thoughts on these two diamonds? Almost the same price range, I don't mind the carat size - looking for 0.7-0.9 carat diamonds.
Holloway Cut Advisor both shows 0.8

Thanks for your help bossku!
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post Nov 17 2022, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(VonGoLaDeciMo @ Nov 16 2022, 10:06 PM)
aiya abit too slow haha

https://www.ritani.com/products/0-72-carat-...ku-d-3z8hel0qkj
https://www.ritani.com/products/0-93-carat-...ku-d-20caoubcxq
Thoughts on these two diamonds? Almost the same price range, I don't mind the carat size - looking for 0.7-0.9 carat diamonds.
Holloway Cut Advisor both shows 0.8

Thanks for your help bossku!
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Personally, I will go for the 0.93ct... just for its size. As far as my untrained eye is concerned. The 0.93ct D VS2 looks clean. Of course, I will recommend you to chat with their gemologist to find out more, make sure the diamond is not milky whatsoever.
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post Nov 23 2022, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(VonGoLaDeciMo @ Nov 16 2022, 10:06 PM)
aiya abit too slow haha

https://www.ritani.com/products/0-72-carat-...ku-d-3z8hel0qkj
https://www.ritani.com/products/0-93-carat-...ku-d-20caoubcxq
Thoughts on these two diamonds? Almost the same price range, I don't mind the carat size - looking for 0.7-0.9 carat diamonds.
Holloway Cut Advisor both shows 0.8

Thanks for your help bossku!
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So did you get any? Just noticed that while the diamond looks nice, it actually don't really fall within AGS Ideal or GIA EX, just IGI Ideal.
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just wondering is the a resell value to moissanite with silver ring?
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post Nov 29 2022, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Nov 23 2022, 12:33 PM)
So did you get any? Just noticed that while the diamond looks nice, it actually don't really fall within AGS Ideal or GIA EX, just IGI Ideal.
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Hi sorry for the late reply, getting the 0.93 carat one, waiting for it to arrive. Fingers crossed haha
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post Dec 6 2022, 01:22 PM

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Just got my diamond yesterday. It’s eye clean but after using my iphone 13 pro to take photo realized got abit inclusion. Overall very happy haha.
Now planning to go get ring setting at Zcova
Anyone knows of any other jewellers that do settings for own diamond? So far I found that Tailored Jewel, Castiel and Cupid Jewellery do provide setting services

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QUOTE(VonGoLaDeciMo @ Dec 6 2022, 01:22 PM)
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Just got my diamond yesterday. It’s eye clean but after using my iphone 13 pro to take photo realized got abit inclusion. Overall very happy haha.
Now planning to go get ring setting at Zcova
Anyone knows of any other jewellers that do settings for own diamond? So far I found that Tailored Jewel, Castiel and Cupid Jewellery do provide setting services
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I do provide service too if you are in KL/PJ area.
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post Dec 6 2022, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 6 2022, 09:07 PM)
I do provide service too if you are in KL/PJ area.
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Pmed you bro smile.gif
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Hi @kambingkoh sifu, would appreciate your advice in choosing between the 2 options below 🙏

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QUOTE(skyther @ Dec 9 2022, 03:09 PM)
Hi @kambingkoh sifu, would appreciate your advice in choosing between the 2 options below 🙏

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Personally I like the bigger one. VVS quality is abit overkill though, but if the price is good then no complains.
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Hi Sifu, seeking advise on two 0.5CT stones that was being offered

GIA ID 1437546680

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GIA ID 2437428694

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They are almost similar, although the 1st one seems to have better hearts & diamond



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QUOTE(happy_tiger @ Dec 30 2022, 11:49 AM)
Hi Sifu, seeking advise on two 0.5CT stones that was being offered

GIA ID 1437546680

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GIA ID 2437428694

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They are almost similar, although the 1st one seems to have better hearts & diamond
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Imo, they are almost similar. I will go with the one that I can see better hearts and arrows. If physical diamonds are available, I will see them side-by-side, see which one I like better with naked eye. If still similar, then whichever that is cheaper to be more cost-effective (although I believe the price should be the same from the looks of it).
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hi sifu @kambingkoh

im looking for proposal ring around RM6k~8k.

Currently i have gotten few offer from local jewel shop but the price seem very expensive.

Diamond & Co - Forevermark
0.42carat, G, VVS2 RM10k++
0.40carat, I, VS2 RM7.8k++
0.31carat, G, VS2 RM5.9k++

Poh Kong - Hemera
0.3 carat, RM8k.

Tomei - Lumiere
0.3 carat, RM7k.

Just found this thread not long ago and it seem whiteflash is offering really attractive pricing for 0.4+ carat diamond aro USD1000-USD1300. Can recommend me some good choice?

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