Hey thanks and good luck.

0.605 ct F VVS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Diamond
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)

Not sure this one is a pre-loved (second hand) stone or not, but it is worth asking:
0.608 ct E VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Diamond
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)

Do note that AGS takes GIA faint fluorescence as AGS negligible as well.

Anything from Zcova recommended if I should want to go local?

Sure, here are some that caught my eye:

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6...s=1551918956659


https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6315778793 Proportions wise the best.


https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1319387096


One thing to note is that diamonds from Whiteflash is that they are fully-vetted and in-house. So they are readily available for you to purchase and has very high guaranteed availability. Most importantly, their diamonds are very very well-cut and show you the proof of it.

ZCOVA, Tailored Jewel, and other similar ones run on virtual inventory, the cut quality of the diamonds vary. Some may be good, some aren't, but mostly can't be as good as a Whiteflash ACA. The best reason to buy from virtual inventory is that their lower prices and possibly close enough performance.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Mar 7 2019, 10:17 AM

And here are the performance images.

Hello, asking here first before I go ring shopping, hope anyone here can help answer my questions I have so that I don't look so lost when I actually go shopping, haha.

I'm actually not interested in diamonds. I prefer a different stone (turquoise, aquamarine or any other December birthstones). Is it possible for it be set in 18k white gold band here in Malaysia, where would I find it, and what would the local market rate be like? I also prefer small sized stones.

Edit: Actually my budget is around 5k. If the above is way over the budget, is there any suggestions that can fit in that budget?

Thanks in advance!

This post has been edited by hikarireika: Mar 10 2019, 05:54 PM

https://www.facebook.com/LaFianceeGems/
https://www.facebook.com/thegemtribe/

Both of them has speciality in "different type of stone"... try Facebook msg them and see your options.

Oh wow, thank you so much! This is very helpful. I will PM them soon.

Have you had any personal experience with any of the vendors? And is there anything in particular I should look out for during the buying process?

This post has been edited by hikarireika: Mar 10 2019, 06:32 PM

Unfortunately I have no experience with them. But I noticed La Fiancee has been in this alternate market for quite sometime, and I quite like the beautiful colours of the different gems they created for their customers.

The Gem Tribe is a relatively new player in town, but they already have experience with these sort of gems as well if you notice their Facebook page. One of the founders used to work with a chained brick-and-mortar store before so I would say despite being a relatively new player, they are still pretty experienced.

I can't advice much what to look out for when choosing gem stones like these because my experience is limited to round brilliant only. You have to communicate with each of them personally and see which one suits you more at the end of the day...

Good luck!

Hi all, i just wan to ask, there are some choices where i can buy a bigger carat in wah chan and smaller size in love&co. Should i go for wah chan or love&co?

Love & Co is overpriced. LoveMarque is their signature collection as far as I know, but for that kind of price I can do better online, at cheaper prices. Their ring setting is pretty good though.

Wah Chan sells GIA graded stone. Despite what others say, GIA is still the top tier lab in the world. You would probably get better value buying from Wah Chan. If you are concerned about their quality, then focus your search on their signature collection known as Solitaire Club. It is only at selected branches though.

You can of course get better options from smaller jewelers like Memory Jewellery or ZCOVA. I know Memory Jewellery can get pretty good diamonds if you decent cut diamonds. However, those diamonds are quite limited in quantity because decent diamonds are pretty rare I would say. As for ZCOVA, they look more posh and they are tapped to a whole lot of virtual inventory. Virtual inventory represents diamond supplier inventory, so basically they have like many many diamonds... With a mixture of good and bad ones of course. They can also price match if you can find the same diamond elsewhere. They do honour it as far as I know based in feedback.

Tailored Jewel at Atria is another good option. They do provide some decent affordable packages. Diamond quality wise is okay. However, if you feel that you want better, they are able to source for better ones as well, but maybe not at package price (my guess).

Thank you so much for the advise. I think i will look at Degem and zcova... actually i almost trapped to buy love&co...i see their clarity is not that good and smaller carat. Thats really stop me buying from them... thank you so much for your advise!

kambingkoh any advice on the following?

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1325099719

GIA 1325099719

No problem.. What did they offer you and how much?

Looks pretty good. So does the overall look. Definitely can consider:

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view...amond-452569Z30

Check out the price in the website. It is the same piece of diamond. If the company you are buying from got price match policy, they may be able to match it up against Enchanted Diamonds. FYI, Enchanted Diamonds ship free to Malaysia, and loose diamond is tax-free. Of course, final decision lies with them.

Here is the estimated price: RM 7918.19
https://transfer.moneymatch.co/dashboard

And this has not include my RM 50 referral discount if you are transferring for the first time via money match.

I text Zcova and they offered me 0.40 ct, E/VS2, 3EX with classic solitaire ring.

The classic solitaire ring is normal? or i need a 14k white gold or something? and i am not sure what is E color is good. 3EX stand for?

Oh, I actually meant what price did Love & Co quoted you.

Classic solitaire ring is the ring design that holds your diamond. Classic means it is a timeless design - You saw it before, see it now, and still see it in the future. Solitaire means the diamond will be the only diamond on the ring, something like this:
https://zcova.com/jewellery/j/70

While those with side diamonds are known as paved settings, something like this:
https://zcova.com/jewellery/j/86

0.40ct is the carat weight - It doesn't really represent how "big" the diamond is, but rather, it represents how "heavy". FYI, a very well-cut 0.8ct diamond can actually look as big as a poorly cut 1ct diamond, if not bigger, but yet, it has a lower weight.

Colour represents how icy white the diamond will look. D colour being the whitest, while E is the 2nd whitest, followed by F. D, E, F colours are what we called Colourless, while G, H, I, J is what we called Near Colourless. Yellowish tint will be more obvious starting from K colour, in general. And to answer you, E colour is very good.

3EX - Triple Excellent. Excellent in CUT, Excellent in SYMMETRY, Excellent in POLISH. There are tonnes of it out in the market, so it is actually the starting point to pick a good diamond. But do remember, not all Triple Excellent is Excellent despite what others say. A good diamond will have a strict set of proportions and when they are cut to high precision, they will exhibit Hearts & Arrows patterning.

14k - This represents the gold content in your ring. 14k consists of approximately 58.3%/58.5% gold content in the ring, while 18k consists of 75%. 18k is the standard in Malaysia market for engagement rings. You will usually see the engraving of the gold content on the finished ring, AU583/AU585 for 14k, or AU150 for 18k, or simply just the numbers alone. Both 14k and 18k looks the same after rhodium plating -> The polished whitish bright bright layer on the ring. This plating will wear and tear in time, but fret not, you can refurbish it after a few years at minimal cost or free, depending on jeweler.

wa... i really appreciate your explanation. Now i get more clearer picture.

Love & Co quoted me quite high where the 0.33ct is approximately RM8k with F/SI2 and 0.4ct with F/SI2 for RM12k after discount.

Now Zcova offered me with 0.5 ct E/VS2 3EX for 8.7k which i feel like too good to be truth. Or the price is within the range?

The price for Love & Co is fair if you consider that they need to pay for rental, utilities, salaries, marketing, stocking up stock, and probably some commission, together with some profit margin... Honestly RM 7k you can get something like 0.4ct E VS1 GIA 3EX... and that is not even the possible cheapest price. What I am highlighting is that Love & Co has a high operational cost and you can get certainly get all the "feel good" factor, "feel safe" factor, but certainly not the "feel cheap" factor. But of course, if you feel that that is what you want, it is certainly okay. Just look at Pandora, notice how many bees are swarming the store now and then? But if you want to talk about just the cost of that material alone, they are relatively cheap.

For ZCOVA (affiliate link), they utilize what we call Virtual Inventory. They tap onto global trade network and put a certain profit margin into the final price. They are virtual because they don't stock up physical stock but they are able to access a lot of them up-close and personal via magnification technology that zoom the diamond into quite a big size to inspect closely. Once they shortlisted a candidate diamond and customer confirmed that they want to buy, only then, they will buy the particular diamond in. They also owe the showroom at Kota Damansara and there is no rental cost involved. They also run on a lean team so there the expenses in terms of salary is lower. They only do digital marketing and does not run roadshows so their marketing cost should be lower too. So, yes, the price is certainly reasonable. Might look unbelievable at first, but certainly true. And yes, they are making some profit as well!

If you want really great cut quality, then you have to focus on Hearts & Arrows diamond, which will cost a few thousand more... it should be around RM 11k all-in. Usually I would recommend people to buy from WhiteFlash (affiliate link) or Brian Gavin Diamonds (affiliate link)

I think i am good with ZCOVA offered. My budget is around RM 8 - 9k with 0.5ct which they are able to deliver with better quality of the diamond. I believe not many people able to see the difference. Thank you so much for your advises!!! You helped me a lot.